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Psychosis
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Vincy82:
“I agree. Brucie said on radio when I was still abed that he had spoken to the producers to ask if they couldn't let all three couples do the final and they said rules were rules and they couldn't change them. That was sweet of Brucie wasnt it? Its really nice that they're having Kelly dance tonight and it would have been nice for Gethin as well.”

Kelly's dancing? That's good, what's she doing? Something by herself or part of the group dances?

I would've liked to have seen Gethin's showdance. Surely that'd take some of the pressure off the finalists, to
Susann
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Last Saturday Matt on TV thanked his voters for getting him into the semi-final. "Let off" were the words Matt used asking for votes on Meltdown Saturday in the backroom in front of Tess.

Both clips are on VT, verbatim. They ought to be on YouTube. Can someone find them please? If not accurate, please come back and I shall apologize.”

So what if he did? Maybe he thought he was let off then? Ithink he has proved to his fans who voted for him that he deserved the place by dancing so brilliantly the following week. So they were right to keep him out the bottom two it seems

Don't bother looking for them, I will take you at your word
astropoet
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“:yawn::yawn: I can't take this post really serious


Why didn't I hear people talking about that the week Laetitia left it only became something after Gethin and Camilla left .”

Er yes, I was thinking that too.
Claudia57
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by hansue:
“Because Gethin was clearly robbed!!!!”

Is Camilla a pickpocket
Or just a burgler in his dressingroom? Terrible !!!

Gethin danced nice, Alesha and Matt diA danced good that was all last week, pity we dont have a three person final but the best dancers went through. :yawn:'
Susann
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“:yawn::yawn: I can't take this post really serious


Why didn't I hear people talking about that the week Laetitia left it only became something after Gethin and Camilla left .”

That's a point well made there
hansue
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Susann:
“Don't be sorry for having a point of view. I don't look for agreement with my posts, only to get my views across. Yes I am a fan of Matt and Flavia's dancing, I don't state otherwise in my posts.

I don't see how it can be a mistake last week if the public had faith in Matt & Flavia and kept them in, and it is nothing to do with the BBC if a few Gething fans are throwing their dummies out their prams and running to them with emails. I doubt the BBC is unhappy with the two finalists they have no matter what some may want to believe.

I think tonights final will be brilliant, however if you don't wish to watch it because you are upset with Matt D making the final instead of your preferred choice, then that is your privilidge.

I doubt Matt wants pity and knows he is a good dancer and that their will always be a favoured finalist with the media in any show, so will already know he is not the favourite to win, but I am sure he will be as brilliant as ever and that is what will count with the viewers. Also this and other forums will not be indictive of how the general public watching the show will see it. There ar probably many who will be watching and looking forward to this evenings show, not sulking whether their favourites made the final or not.”


I don't think that it is a few Gethin fans, I know many and have not witnessed such a furore on SCD over the years so we can't all be wrong.

However, I do not dislike Matt in any way and I don't blame him for what has happened. Its the BBC that need to look at how things are done in the future because it has certainly been soured this year for me and, I would think, many others.

I probably will watch as there is noting else on so I am hoping that it will turn out to be better than I thought.
soulmate61
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“:yawn::yawn: I can't take this post really serious


Why didn't I hear people talking about that the week Laetitia left it only became something after Gethin and Camilla left .”

I think you will find there were endless threads between Meltdown Saturday and the semi-final deploring and defending the Pity Rescue.
sarah-flute
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by hansue:
“I don't think that it is a few Gethin fans, I know many and have not witnessed such a furore on SCD over the years so we can't all be wrong.”

That's a fallacy - there are lots of Gethin fans, and lots of Matt fans. One having more or less vocal fans than the other doesn't automatically mean one set "must be right". Not attempting to stir - it just doesn't make sense. You might as well say that because Darren Gough had more fans than Colin Jackson (or at least had more votes) he "must" be a better dancer. But a lot of people would argue with you. (Personally I liked them both for different reasons, though I didn't fancy either of them)

Dancing will always be at least partly subjective.
KDee
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Susann:
“That's a point well made there ”

I find these threads sooooooooooooo boring dont you??
Forever repeating the same old stuff:yawn:
It done, over, old news.

Some people on hear need to take a chill pill.

Anyway Matt & Flavia and Alesha and Matt are in the FINAL
Claudia57
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“I think you will find there were endless threads between Meltdown Saturday and the semi-final deploring and defending the Pity Rescue.”

Yes but not about Matt's "last chance of reconciliation"

CAMBER
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“Yes but not about Matt's "last chance of reconciliation"

”

Sorry-what do you mean?

Could be an exam question:

'This was Matt's last chance of reconciliation'-Discuss
Claudia57
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Matt D A had many chances to say on TV he regretted events outside his control. Instead he expressed himself delighted to be "let off" a dance-off against Letitia. The last chance for reconciliation went.

SCD is damaged, and the Final sadder.”

Originally Posted by CAMBER:
“Sorry-what do you mean?

Could be an exam question:

'This was Matt's last chance of reconciliation'-Discuss”


See the Quote of Soulmate :yawn::yawn:, I wondered why I didn't hear that after Letiltia left, but only now since 'poor Gethin' left.
soulmate61
22-12-2007
The rescue mission took place in a highly charged emotional situation, with limited time for a determined minority to make an enormous number of calls and swamp the majority. Highly charged because Len made it highly charged. One posting appeared around 8pm by a Matt supporter agonising about what to do. It is doubtful if many fully realised the longterm implications which are now scarring the Final.

Beyond the Final Matt will be the biggest victim of all, typecast as the object of pity and recipient of rescue. One Matt voter realised this and posted as much indirectly. If any attempt to repair the situation were to be considered, it would have to be at the initiative of the central player and chief victim.
Claudia57
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“The rescue mission took place in a highly charged emotional situation, with limited time for a determined minority to make an enormous number of calls and swamp the majority. Highly charged because Len made it highly charged. One posting appeared around 8pm by a Matt supporter agonising about what to do. It is doubtful if many fully realised the longterm implications which are now scarring the Final.

Beyond the Final Matt will be the biggest victim of all, typecast as the object of pity and recipient of rescue. One Matt voter realised this and posted as much indirectly. If any attempt to repair the situation were to be considered, it would have to be at the initiative of the central player and chief victim.”


LOL you are funny !!!!
mintchocchip
22-12-2007
Matt did say that Letitia did not deserve to go on ITT a couple of days after it happened.
Serenity79
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by sarah-flute:
“ there are lots of Gethin fans, and lots of Matt fans. One having more or less vocal fans than the other doesn't automatically mean one set "must be right".
”


I agree
Tissy
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by mintchocchip:
“Matt did say that Letitia didn't deserve to go on ITT a couple of days after it happened.”



How very dare he
Englishspinner
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“The rescue mission took place in a highly charged emotional situation, with limited time for a determined minority to make an enormous number of calls and swamp the majority. .”

A load of old horlicks, surely? Over a very long series, one personable young man with a moderate talent to learn the rudiments of ballroom dancing gets a 3-1 vote over another personable young man with a moderate talent to learn the rudiments of ballroom dancing.

Enjoy the final, can't wait personally.
Servalan
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Claudia57:
“See the Quote of Soulmate :yawn::yawn:, I wondered why I didn't hear that after Letiltia left, but only now since 'poor Gethin' left.”

So here we are with another thread where intelligent debate has descended into some Matt fans going on the defensive.

The furore over what has happened is driven as much by concern for Matt as for Alesha and Gethin. As a result of the BBC's hyped up 'Matt's comeback' soap opera and the judges' inability to do their job consistently, we have had Craig worrying about Matt's ability to do five routines and Len effectively saying that Gethin, not Matt, should be in the final. Is that what Matt fans want?

Letitia's exit, regrettable as it was, was a foregone conclusion once she was in the dance-off with Alesha. She knew it and so did we. Ergo no uproar.

Matt fans might feel differently if he had not been saved last weekend. Instead, however, many seem to class legitimate posts about the judges' moving the goalposts and subsequent contradictory remarks as 'boring', because their favourite is in the final.

If that is all that matters to them, fine. But there is a wider question about fairness and credibility of Strictly that goes way beyond who is in the final - which has been raised by the producers' and judges' behaviour.

That is what all this is about ...
hansue
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“So here we are with another thread where intelligent debate has descended into some Matt fans going on the defensive.

The furore over what has happened is driven as much by concern for Matt as for Alesha and Gethin. As a result of the BBC's hyped up 'Matt's comeback' soap opera and the judges' inability to do their job consistently, we have had Craig worrying about Matt's ability to do five routines and Len effectively saying that Gethin, not Matt, should be in the final. Is that what Matt fans want?

Letitia's exit, regrettable as it was, was a foregone conclusion once she was in the dance-off with Alesha. She knew it and so did we. Ergo no uproar.

Matt fans might feel differently if he had not been saved last weekend. Instead, however, many seem to class legitimate posts about the judges' moving the goalposts and subsequent contradictory remarks as 'boring', because their favourite is in the final.

If that is all that matters to them, fine. But there is a wider question about fairness and credibility of Strictly that goes way beyond who is in the final - which has been raised by the producers' and judges' behaviour.

That is what all this is about ...”

Well done Servalan. You have said exactly what I would have liked to. I do not like Matt fans telling people who supported Gethin to get a life - I find that offensive. As you say if it had been the other way round the posts would have been entirely different. In fact they are turning me against Matt which I do not want to do because I have nothing against him personally.
le taureau
22-12-2007
i dont think matt should be getting stick hes going to do his best its the self impotant judges who thought thet were above the rules thats the problem nothing more its o ver but its not finished next year this lot have to have a cleaner act
Apricot
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“So here we are with another thread where intelligent debate has descended into some Matt fans going on the defensive.

The furore over what has happened is driven as much by concern for Matt as for Alesha and Gethin. As a result of the BBC's hyped up 'Matt's comeback' soap opera and the judges' inability to do their job consistently, we have had Craig worrying about Matt's ability to do five routines and Len effectively saying that Gethin, not Matt, should be in the final. Is that what Matt fans want?

Letitia's exit, regrettable as it was, was a foregone conclusion once she was in the dance-off with Alesha. She knew it and so did we. Ergo no uproar.

Matt fans might feel differently if he had not been saved last weekend. Instead, however, many seem to class legitimate posts about the judges' moving the goalposts and subsequent contradictory remarks as 'boring', because their favourite is in the final.

If that is all that matters to them, fine. But there is a wider question about fairness and credibility of Strictly that goes way beyond who is in the final - which has been raised by the producers' and judges' behaviour.

That is what all this is about ...”

Well said Servalan - agree 100%
kaycee
22-12-2007
I feel that if the judges had had to choose who had been the stronger dancer between Matt and Gethin over that last 3 weeks or so, then Gethin would have won hands down. But it all came down to dance off, and as much as I wanted Gethin in the final, Matt's waltz was stronger than Gethin's AT.

It's no good judges who they save is BASED on how the couples dance in the dance-off, if they don't then save the strongest dance! Seems to be they're seen as wrong whatever they do!
Cat123
22-12-2007
It's time people got over it. Matt's in the final, deal with it.
Servalan
22-12-2007
Originally Posted by Cat123:
“It's time people got over it. Matt's in the final, deal with it.”

Believe me, there is nothing I would like more.

Unfortunately chances of that got railroaded on Tuseday with the comments broadcast on ITT, then yesterday with Len's stupid comments in The Guardian, which were rehashed in today's Telegraph.

All this has kept people's concerns alive and the hostility from some Matt fans has only made matters worse. Whether people like him or not, Matt himself isn't being blamed for what has happened: the producers and the judges are.

Maybe some Matt fans could deal with THAT?!

Then we could all perhaps put this sorry episode behind us and watch what unfolds tonight ...
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