Time for a new phone

squawkBOX · 01-07-2003, 12:24

I thought its best for me to get rid of my existing phone and buy a new one. I was wondering if anyone can recommend the phone that is right for me.

I would like the phone to be able to read email and also be able to connect to MSN messenger. I would also prefer to stay on a prepay tarrif rather than pay monthly.

Do all networks offer GPRS on a prepaid basis?

KiCKeD · 01-07-2003, 13:04

Quote:

Originally posted by squawkBOX
I thought its best for me to get rid of my existing phone and buy a new one. I was wondering if anyone can recommend the phone that is right for me.

I would like the phone to be able to read email and also be able to connect to MSN messenger. I would also prefer to stay on a prepay tarrif rather than pay monthly.

Do all networks offer GPRS on a prepaid basis?

i think the only phone that can use MSN is the SPV or SVP (LOL)

Tristan_B · 01-07-2003, 14:16

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Originally posted by KiCKeD
i think the only phone that can use MSN is the SPV or SVP (LOL)

That's not the case. There are MSN Messenger-compatable programmes available from Symbian based phones, such as the Nokia 7650 and 3650, and the S-E P800.

Many phones have e-mail clients built-in, although they can often be awkward to set up! Also, as far as I know, all networks offer GPRS on prepay (no idea about cost per MB though).

KiCKeD · 01-07-2003, 19:57

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Originally posted by Tristan_B
That's not the case. There are MSN Messenger-compatable programmes available from Symbian based phones, such as the Nokia 7650 and 3650, and the S-E P800.

Many phones have e-mail clients built-in, although they can often be awkward to set up! Also, as far as I know, all networks offer GPRS on prepay (no idea about cost per MB though).

yea but if u want *MSN* u get the SVP

not some cheap rip off u know

Luke567 · 01-07-2003, 20:45

yeah, either SPV for the offical MSn or id get the P800 and get get 'Just Yak' from http://www.midlet.org

The SPV is a very good phone, and so is the P800, id stay away from those nokias though.

Luke567 · 01-07-2003, 20:45

oh, and not all networks offer GPRS, Virgin dont, but your unlikly to get one of these phones on Virgin.

01-07-2003, 23:34

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Originally posted by Luke567
id stay away from those nokias though.

Would you like to justify that comment?

I've had the 3650 for 4 months and I've had absolutely no problems.

KiCKeD · 02-07-2003, 00:29

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Originally posted by andysmith
Would you like to justify that comment?

I've had the 3650 for 4 months and I've had absolutely no problems.

i had a look @ the 3650 nice phone just a crap screen

resolution aint the best and it needs more colours

nice phone tho

02-07-2003, 02:47

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Originally posted by KiCKeD
i had a look @ the 3650 nice phone just a crap screen

resolution aint the best and it needs more colours

nice phone tho

The screen's great, especially compared to the 7210/6610/3510i etc. I've found the colours to be great. Of course it's no match for a TFT screen, like the T100, but it's good enough.

KiCKeD · 02-07-2003, 17:11

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Originally posted by andysmith
The screen's great, especially compared to the 7210/6610/3510i etc. I've found the colours to be great. Of course it's no match for a TFT screen, like the T100, but it's good enough.

yea its the best nokia phone out there i would say just i like the TFT screens

i aint even got a colour phone yet (need money)

Herbal · 05-07-2003, 16:34

I've got a Nokia 6100, and it's Excellent, screen is excellent aswell.

I went from a nokia to a samsung, biggest mistake ever

Nokia is the King of mobiles IMO

Tristan_B · 05-07-2003, 16:51

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Originally posted by Herbal
Nokia is the King of mobiles IMO

You've obviously never used a SonyEricsson phone...

To give you an example, have you tried sending a picture to the Nokia 6100 via the infra-red link? You can't. Neither can you send ringtones. The only way to get them onto the phone is to use a data cable (not even sure if this works) or by MMS/downloading via WAP.

With SE phones, you can send any filetype the phone will accept (that's .jpg, .bmp, .png, .tif, .gif .mid, .imy, .thm to name a few) over any transfer method the phone supports, i.e data cable, IrDA or Bluetooth.

The SE T68 was released how long ago? 18 months at least. And yet Nokia still haven't released a mobile with Bluetooth functionality that even matches it, let alone exceeds it. Hell, they're forcing headset manufacturers to redesign their products, because Nokia won't support the standard Bluetooth 'headset' profile, and so the manufacturers have to make their headsets pretend to be car handsfree kits. SonyEricsson, of course, supports both...

Most popular doesn't always equal best...

Herbal · 05-07-2003, 19:34

Yeah ok you have a point cant get my infra-red thing to work, but it's fine with a USB cable, had it free after i complained to 02.

Also heared Bluetooth is good, but nokia dont have it

So maybe i'll try one of thise next time, my m8 had a t68i and had huge problems with it

Herbal · 05-07-2003, 19:34

Yeah ok you have a point cant get my infra-red thing to work, but it's fine with a USB cable, had it free after i complained to 02.

Also heared Bluetooth is good, but nokia dont have it

So maybe i'll try one of thise next time, my m8 had a t68i and had huge problems with it

jammers · 05-07-2003, 23:56

Bluetooth is brilliant and so is virtually any SE phone.

Id avoid the SVP as its pants compared with P800 which is the best phone Ive ever owned. Was a little worried about its size at first but its features far outweigh that. I can listen to MP3 files with the memory stick duo, stream some video from the Orange site, use Bluetooth to use my HBH 60 headset and send and recieve files between other phones. When Ive done all that I can also search the full interent or wap, whichever Im in the mood for. Oh, yes and a built in email client and touch screen Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised. And now on the interent you can get it for next to nothing.

SE may not be #1 sales but when it comes to technology it is #1 by a long long way.

Tristan_B · 06-07-2003, 00:12

Jammers, I'd be interested to hear your definition of 'next to nothing'. Even on eBay it's £250-300....

Kris Green · 06-07-2003, 00:19

NOKIA 6800! This is the best phone i've ever had, especially with a QWERTY keypad inside!

Nokia 6800

Nice phone!

Cheers,

KJG

Tristan_B · 06-07-2003, 00:32

keyboard's nice, shame about the rest...

Kris Green · 06-07-2003, 00:38

If you bought the phone, you wouldn't be disappointed.. what dont you like about it?

KJG

Tristan_B · 06-07-2003, 00:48

As I said in the 'best phone' thread, it lacks a number of things I'm used to from my old T68i, let alone my new T610

Bluetooth, for example, is now essential on any phone I'd even consider owning. It only has a 12-bit screen, as opposed to the 16-bit, slightly larger one on the T610. There's no built-in camera...

The only way to do file transfer is by data cable! How silly is that? Even with my old T68i, if there was a pic or ringtone I wanted to give to a friend, we could both switch on IrDA or Bluetooth and quickly exchange it. WIth the Nokia 6800, or 6100 for that matter, I'd have to send it as an MMS message instead. Now with games, it's even more annoying, as they're mostly too big to be sent by MMS. You can't assign pics to contacts...

It doesn't seem to support voice control either, which is useful when driving. Nor is it tri-band. And it only supports WAP 1.2.1, rather than 2.0 like my old T68i did...

In short, the keyboard is nice, but the rest of the phone is average.

GARETH197901 · 06-07-2003, 02:15

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Originally posted by Tristan_B
You've obviously never used a SonyEricsson phone...

To give you an example, have you tried sending a picture to the Nokia 6100 via the infra-red link? You can't. Neither can you send ringtones. The only way to get them onto the phone is to use a data cable (not even sure if this works) or by MMS/downloading via WAP.

With SE phones, you can send any filetype the phone will accept (that's .jpg, .bmp, .png, .tif, .gif .mid, .imy, .thm to name a few) over any transfer method the phone supports, i.e data cable, IrDA or Bluetooth.

The SE T68 was released how long ago? 18 months at least. And yet Nokia still haven't released a mobile with Bluetooth functionality that even matches it, let alone exceeds it. Hell, they're forcing headset manufacturers to redesign their products, because Nokia won't support the standard Bluetooth 'headset' profile, and so the manufacturers have to make their headsets pretend to be car handsfree kits. SonyEricsson, of course, supports both...

Most popular doesn't always equal best...

yeah but i have a nokia 7650 and if you asked me to swap to my wifes sony-ericsson t310 i wouldnt even cosider it,the resolution on the screen is shit(and this is a newer phone)games are hard to come by for it,and i find bluetooth and infrared work perfectly on the 7650 but i havent tested infrared yet on the t310 because i cant find anything to send apart from photos,but that is my opinion

Tristan_B · 06-07-2003, 04:05

You're not comparing like with like. The T310 is a mid-range phone, designed to compete with something like the 3510i.

The 7650 is/was aimed at the higher end of the market. SE don't have a product at the moment to directly rival its replacement, the 3650, which is an excellent phone.

The T310 can accept MIDI files as polyphonic ringtones, by the way, and either Java or Mophun games, I can't remember which...

06-07-2003, 12:55

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Originally posted by Tristan_B
The 7650 is/was aimed at the higher end of the market. SE don't have a product at the moment to directly rival its replacement, the 3650, which is an excellent phone.

Doesn't P800 rival 7650/3650?

Luke567 · 06-07-2003, 14:25

the P800 is ALOT better, but they are very similar, i.e same operating system.

Luke567 · 06-07-2003, 14:32

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Originally posted by jammers
Bluetooth is brilliant and so is virtually any SE phone.

Id avoid the SVP as its pants compared with P800 which is the best phone Ive ever owned. Was a little worried about its size at first but its features far outweigh that. I can listen to MP3 files with the memory stick duo, stream some video from the Orange site, use Bluetooth to use my HBH 60 headset and send and recieve files between other phones. When Ive done all that I can also search the full interent or wap, whichever Im in the mood for. Oh, yes and a built in email client and touch screen Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised. And now on the interent you can get it for next to nothing.

SE may not be #1 sales but when it comes to technology it is #1 by a long long way.

'I'd avoide the SPV as its pants compared with the P800'

ok..lets compare.

Firstly, the SPV is alot smaller.
You said, i can listen to MP3's...you can with the SPV. It also has upgradable memory.
You said stream video...you an with the SPV.
You said, use bluetooth to send and receive files between phones, i think its possible to get a bluetooth sd card for the SPV(probs wrong though) but either way, you can use the IRDA to send files with the SPV.
You said, you can search full internet, the SPV can do...
You said, built in email client...the SPV goes one step firther, you can use MSN Messenger, a POP3 any method to check your email.
You said, you have a touch screen...wow, this carnt be good for playing games! With the SPV a keyboard is coming out, and it will be able to be rolled up etc.

Hmm, so...you said 'Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised.'.. i think i just found that phone

01-07-2003, 13:04	#2
KiCKeD Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 244	Re: Time for a new phone Quote: Originally posted by squawkBOX I thought its best for me to get rid of my existing phone and buy a new one. I was wondering if anyone can recommend the phone that is right for me. I would like the phone to be able to read email and also be able to connect to MSN messenger. I would also prefer to stay on a prepay tarrif rather than pay monthly. Do all networks offer GPRS on a prepaid basis? i think the only phone that can use MSN is the SPV or SVP (LOL)

01-07-2003, 14:16	#3
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	Re: Re: Time for a new phone Quote: Originally posted by KiCKeD i think the only phone that can use MSN is the SPV or SVP (LOL) That's not the case. There are MSN Messenger-compatable programmes available from Symbian based phones, such as the Nokia 7650 and 3650, and the S-E P800. Many phones have e-mail clients built-in, although they can often be awkward to set up! Also, as far as I know, all networks offer GPRS on prepay (no idea about cost per MB though).

01-07-2003, 19:57	#4
KiCKeD Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 244	Re: Re: Re: Time for a new phone Quote: Originally posted by Tristan_B That's not the case. There are MSN Messenger-compatable programmes available from Symbian based phones, such as the Nokia 7650 and 3650, and the S-E P800. Many phones have e-mail clients built-in, although they can often be awkward to set up! Also, as far as I know, all networks offer GPRS on prepay (no idea about cost per MB though). yea but if u want MSN u get the SVP not some cheap rip off u know

01-07-2003, 12:24	#1
squawkBOX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central Scotland, UK Posts: 871	Time for a new phone I thought its best for me to get rid of my existing phone and buy a new one. I was wondering if anyone can recommend the phone that is right for me. I would like the phone to be able to read email and also be able to connect to MSN messenger. I would also prefer to stay on a prepay tarrif rather than pay monthly. Do all networks offer GPRS on a prepaid basis?

01-07-2003, 20:45	#5
Luke567 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wakefield Posts: 1,241	yeah, either SPV for the offical MSn or id get the P800 and get get 'Just Yak' from http://www.midlet.org The SPV is a very good phone, and so is the P800, id stay away from those nokias though.

01-07-2003, 23:34	#7
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by Luke567 id stay away from those nokias though. Would you like to justify that comment? I've had the 3650 for 4 months and I've had absolutely no problems.

02-07-2003, 00:29	#8
KiCKeD Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 244	Quote: Originally posted by andysmith Would you like to justify that comment? I've had the 3650 for 4 months and I've had absolutely no problems. i had a look @ the 3650 nice phone just a crap screen resolution aint the best and it needs more colours nice phone tho

02-07-2003, 02:47	#9
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by KiCKeD i had a look @ the 3650 nice phone just a crap screen resolution aint the best and it needs more colours nice phone tho The screen's great, especially compared to the 7210/6610/3510i etc. I've found the colours to be great. Of course it's no match for a TFT screen, like the T100, but it's good enough.

02-07-2003, 17:11	#10
KiCKeD Banned User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 244	Quote: Originally posted by andysmith The screen's great, especially compared to the 7210/6610/3510i etc. I've found the colours to be great. Of course it's no match for a TFT screen, like the T100, but it's good enough. yea its the best nokia phone out there i would say just i like the TFT screens i aint even got a colour phone yet (need money)

05-07-2003, 16:34	#11
Herbal Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 212	I've got a Nokia 6100, and it's Excellent, screen is excellent aswell. I went from a nokia to a samsung, biggest mistake ever Nokia is the King of mobiles IMO

05-07-2003, 16:51	#12
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	Quote: Originally posted by Herbal Nokia is the King of mobiles IMO You've obviously never used a SonyEricsson phone... To give you an example, have you tried sending a picture to the Nokia 6100 via the infra-red link? You can't. Neither can you send ringtones. The only way to get them onto the phone is to use a data cable (not even sure if this works) or by MMS/downloading via WAP. With SE phones, you can send any filetype the phone will accept (that's .jpg, .bmp, .png, .tif, .gif .mid, .imy, .thm to name a few) over any transfer method the phone supports, i.e data cable, IrDA or Bluetooth. The SE T68 was released how long ago? 18 months at least. And yet Nokia still haven't released a mobile with Bluetooth functionality that even matches it, let alone exceeds it. Hell, they're forcing headset manufacturers to redesign their products, because Nokia won't support the standard Bluetooth 'headset' profile, and so the manufacturers have to make their headsets pretend to be car handsfree kits. SonyEricsson, of course, supports both... Most popular doesn't always equal best...

05-07-2003, 19:34	#13
Herbal Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 212	Yeah ok you have a point cant get my infra-red thing to work, but it's fine with a USB cable, had it free after i complained to 02. Also heared Bluetooth is good, but nokia dont have it So maybe i'll try one of thise next time, my m8 had a t68i and had huge problems with it

05-07-2003, 23:56	#15
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Bluetooth is brilliant and so is virtually any SE phone. Id avoid the SVP as its pants compared with P800 which is the best phone Ive ever owned. Was a little worried about its size at first but its features far outweigh that. I can listen to MP3 files with the memory stick duo, stream some video from the Orange site, use Bluetooth to use my HBH 60 headset and send and recieve files between other phones. When Ive done all that I can also search the full interent or wap, whichever Im in the mood for. Oh, yes and a built in email client and touch screen Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised. And now on the interent you can get it for next to nothing. SE may not be #1 sales but when it comes to technology it is #1 by a long long way.

06-07-2003, 00:12	#16
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	Jammers, I'd be interested to hear your definition of 'next to nothing'. Even on eBay it's £250-300....

06-07-2003, 00:19	#17
Kris Green Former DS Soaps Editor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sheffield Posts: 2,612	NOKIA 6800! This is the best phone i've ever had, especially with a QWERTY keypad inside! Nokia 6800 Nice phone! Cheers, KJG

06-07-2003, 00:32	#18
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	keyboard's nice, shame about the rest...

06-07-2003, 00:38	#19
Kris Green Former DS Soaps Editor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sheffield Posts: 2,612	If you bought the phone, you wouldn't be disappointed.. what dont you like about it? KJG

06-07-2003, 00:48	#20
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	As I said in the 'best phone' thread, it lacks a number of things I'm used to from my old T68i, let alone my new T610 Bluetooth, for example, is now essential on any phone I'd even consider owning. It only has a 12-bit screen, as opposed to the 16-bit, slightly larger one on the T610. There's no built-in camera... The only way to do file transfer is by data cable! How silly is that? Even with my old T68i, if there was a pic or ringtone I wanted to give to a friend, we could both switch on IrDA or Bluetooth and quickly exchange it. WIth the Nokia 6800, or 6100 for that matter, I'd have to send it as an MMS message instead. Now with games, it's even more annoying, as they're mostly too big to be sent by MMS. You can't assign pics to contacts... It doesn't seem to support voice control either, which is useful when driving. Nor is it tri-band. And it only supports WAP 1.2.1, rather than 2.0 like my old T68i did... In short, the keyboard is nice, but the rest of the phone is average.

06-07-2003, 02:15	#21
GARETH197901 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: XBL-JediScho PSN-Gareth1979 Posts: 22,127	Quote: Originally posted by Tristan_B You've obviously never used a SonyEricsson phone... To give you an example, have you tried sending a picture to the Nokia 6100 via the infra-red link? You can't. Neither can you send ringtones. The only way to get them onto the phone is to use a data cable (not even sure if this works) or by MMS/downloading via WAP. With SE phones, you can send any filetype the phone will accept (that's .jpg, .bmp, .png, .tif, .gif .mid, .imy, .thm to name a few) over any transfer method the phone supports, i.e data cable, IrDA or Bluetooth. The SE T68 was released how long ago? 18 months at least. And yet Nokia still haven't released a mobile with Bluetooth functionality that even matches it, let alone exceeds it. Hell, they're forcing headset manufacturers to redesign their products, because Nokia won't support the standard Bluetooth 'headset' profile, and so the manufacturers have to make their headsets pretend to be car handsfree kits. SonyEricsson, of course, supports both... Most popular doesn't always equal best... yeah but i have a nokia 7650 and if you asked me to swap to my wifes sony-ericsson t310 i wouldnt even cosider it,the resolution on the screen is shit(and this is a newer phone)games are hard to come by for it,and i find bluetooth and infrared work perfectly on the 7650 but i havent tested infrared yet on the t310 because i cant find anything to send apart from photos,but that is my opinion

06-07-2003, 04:05	#22
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	You're not comparing like with like. The T310 is a mid-range phone, designed to compete with something like the 3510i. The 7650 is/was aimed at the higher end of the market. SE don't have a product at the moment to directly rival its replacement, the 3650, which is an excellent phone. The T310 can accept MIDI files as polyphonic ringtones, by the way, and either Java or Mophun games, I can't remember which...

06-07-2003, 12:55	#23
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by Tristan_B The 7650 is/was aimed at the higher end of the market. SE don't have a product at the moment to directly rival its replacement, the 3650, which is an excellent phone. Doesn't P800 rival 7650/3650?

06-07-2003, 14:25	#24
Luke567 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wakefield Posts: 1,241	the P800 is ALOT better, but they are very similar, i.e same operating system.

06-07-2003, 14:32	#25
Luke567 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wakefield Posts: 1,241	Quote: Originally posted by jammers Bluetooth is brilliant and so is virtually any SE phone. Id avoid the SVP as its pants compared with P800 which is the best phone Ive ever owned. Was a little worried about its size at first but its features far outweigh that. I can listen to MP3 files with the memory stick duo, stream some video from the Orange site, use Bluetooth to use my HBH 60 headset and send and recieve files between other phones. When Ive done all that I can also search the full interent or wap, whichever Im in the mood for. Oh, yes and a built in email client and touch screen Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised. And now on the interent you can get it for next to nothing. SE may not be #1 sales but when it comes to technology it is #1 by a long long way. 'I'd avoide the SPV as its pants compared with the P800' ok..lets compare. Firstly, the SPV is alot smaller. You said, i can listen to MP3's...you can with the SPV. It also has upgradable memory. You said stream video...you an with the SPV. You said, use bluetooth to send and receive files between phones, i think its possible to get a bluetooth sd card for the SPV(probs wrong though) but either way, you can use the IRDA to send files with the SPV. You said, you can search full internet, the SPV can do... You said, built in email client...the SPV goes one step firther, you can use MSN Messenger, a POP3 any method to check your email. You said, you have a touch screen...wow, this carnt be good for playing games! With the SPV a keyboard is coming out, and it will be able to be rolled up etc. Hmm, so...you said 'Find a phone that comes near it and ill be very surprised.'.. i think i just found that phone

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