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Old 23-12-2007, 22:58
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It was slicker and a million times better organised. No bias whatsoever, both contestants numbers appeared on screen at the same time from the start of the show. The running order didn't change randomly half way through, the judges were careful not to single either contestant out for special praise (despite the fact Alesha was obviousley better). You could actually get through when you tried to vote.

Oh and most importantly the right person won in the end. Though you wouldn't have minded if Matt had won, because he was a strong contender to. So obviousley there was more talent as well.

I hope Simon and co were watching to see how a reality show final should be done....
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:04
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The points about voting and the winner are completely irrelevant. People couldn't get through because of the high volume of calls - this is absolutely normal with any event like this. And the winner was chosen by the public. Blame them.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:09
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It was slicker and a million times better organised. No bias whatsoever, both contestants numbers appeared on screen at the same time from the start of the show. The running order didn't change randomly half way through, the judges were careful not to single either contestant out for special praise (despite the fact Alesha was obviousley better). You could actually get through when you tried to vote.

Oh and most importantly the right person won in the end. Though you wouldn't have minded if Matt had won, because he was a strong contender to. So obviousley there was more talent as well.

I hope Simon and co were watching to see how a reality show final should be done....
So to summarise, the producers have to make sure that you personally are happy with the winner before proceeding?
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:10
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Yes - SCD:

a programme that wouldn't even trust the viewers to decide who should make it into the final even in semi final week (Gethin may well have got the most votes but was booted out by the judges)

a programme which is very entertaining but serves no purpose - apart from reviving the careers of people who are on the way out anyway

a programme that puts the dreadful Tess Daly on our screens who then proceeds to ask one of the finalists if they are going to carry on their 'affair' when the woman's actual boyfriend is sitting close by.

Yes - a well organised final - Bruce Forsyth is the only redeeming feature!
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:12
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Yes - SCD:

a programme that wouldn't even trust the viewers to decide who should make it into the final even in semi final week (Gethin may well have got the most votes but was booted out by the judges)

a programme which is very entertaining but serves no purpose - apart from reviving the careers of people who are on the way out anyway

a programme that puts the dreadful Tess Daly on our screens who then proceeds to ask one of the finalists if they are going to carry on their 'affair' when the woman's actual boyfriend is sitting close by.

Yes - a well organised final - Bruce Forsyth is the only redeeming feature!


Why do you watch it? You obviously do.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:13
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Yes - SCD:

a programme that wouldn't even trust the viewers to decide who should make it into the final even in semi final week (Gethin may well have got the most votes but was booted out by the judges)

a programme which is very entertaining but serves no purpose - apart from reviving the careers of people who are on the way out anyway

a programme that puts the dreadful Tess Daly on our screens who then proceeds to ask one of the finalists if they are going to carry on their 'affair' when the woman's actual boyfriend is sitting close by.

Yes - a well organised final - Bruce Forsyth is the only redeeming feature!
Totally agree.
At least producers of X Factor did away with the Judges vote several weeks ago and even when they had it they never let one man become more important in the decision making than the others. If it was a tie in X Factor with the judges then it came down to who got the least votes.
I very much doubt if producers are that worried. Their ratings for the Final were the best yet even the SCD Final failed to beat them.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:15
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I saw the SCD final and I thought if was utterly cheesy and a load of rubbish.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:15
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Why do you watch it? You obviously do.
I read the papers!
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:17
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Why do you watch it? You obviously do.
Some people might like watching both shows but I preferred the way the Judges decide things on X Factor and stopped deciding who gets to the Final several weeks ago.
Aleesha was a worthy winner of SCD but we will never know if she would have beaten Gethin in a fair contest due to the judges taking the decision out of people's hands.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:19
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I saw the SCD final and I thought if was utterly cheesy and a load of rubbish.
Exactly! what is the point of SCD anyway?

I think Rhydian should have won but I don't blame the x factor producers really. The general public chose Leon, wrong outcome. The public doesn't get it right everytime, in my opinion Leon won because of his image, a volunerable young man and GBP are a sucker for that. lol
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:21
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I did try and get into it but to be honest I don't find watching dancing all that interesting. I'd rather be doing than watching
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:21
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Exactly! what is the point of SCD anyway?
God knows! I see them dancing and they all dance better than me. That's all I can say! I don't get the dancing or the skating. I stick to music!
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:23
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SCD was a zillion times better and gave the contestants the opportunity to do the commentaries to their own vt's. Much fairer. No bias on SCD - total bias on X Factor
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:27
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I saw the SCD final and I thought if was utterly cheesy and a load of rubbish.
Oh and the X Factor isn't cheesy? Its pure cheese the same as SCD and please don't try to say differently, its far from credible.

I do find it ammusing how some X Factor fan simply cannot accept criticism of the show The final was a disjointed mess regardless of the outcome.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:29
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Oh and the X Factor isn't cheesy? Its pure cheese the same as SCD and please don't try to say differently, its far from credible.

I do find it ammusing how some X Factor fan simply cannot accept criticism of the show
Are you asking my opinion or telling me what it should be? Don't presume you know my thoughts.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:34
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Are you asking my opinion or telling me what it should be? Don't presume you know my thoughts.
Im not presuming anything. Im simply saying that calling another show 'cheesy' when the X Factor is a pure cheesefest itself is a bit random.
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Old 23-12-2007, 23:41
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Im not presuming anything. Im simply saying that calling another show 'cheesy' when the X Factor is a pure cheesefest itself is a bit random.
I said SCD was cheesy. I don't need to qualify that comment by mentioning another show.
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Old 24-12-2007, 00:10
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i think the judges on SCD suck, arlene is v very annoying.

she give Louis a run for his money.
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Old 24-12-2007, 00:19
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Yes - SCD:

a programme that wouldn't even trust the viewers to decide who should make it into the final even in semi final week (Gethin may well have got the most votes but was booted out by the judges)

a programme which is very entertaining but serves no purpose - apart from reviving the careers of people who are on the way out anyway

a programme that puts the dreadful Tess Daly on our screens who then proceeds to ask one of the finalists if they are going to carry on their 'affair' when the woman's actual boyfriend is sitting close by.

Yes - a well organised final - Bruce Forsyth is the only redeeming feature!
Do you know what the saddest thing is...its a huge success and it just works, it shouldnt its one of those things which on paper just shouldnt work but somehow it does and does it very well.
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Old 24-12-2007, 00:38
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It was slicker and a million times better organised.
I thought it was padded. The XF final went smoothly and I don't remember any paticular organisational problems.

No bias whatsoever, both contestants numbers appeared on screen at the same time from the start of the show. The running order didn't change randomly half way through
I didn't entirely agree with the producers on that one. I know that they switched it for Leon and Kylie because they figured (correctly) that's what we were waiting for, but it wasn't really needed. That said, it made little difference to my enjoyment of the show.

the judges were careful not to single either contestant out for special praise (despite the fact Alesha was obviousley better).
I don't see why judges shouldn't single out someone for special praise if their performance merits it. They are paid vast sums to give their opinions.

You could actually get through when you tried to vote.
According to a woman on teletext TV discussion on page 137, she couldn't register a vote for Matt and seemed most displeased.

Oh and most importantly the right person won in the end. Though you wouldn't have minded if Matt had won, because he was a strong contender to. So obviousley there was more talent as well.
The public decided. Only a few paragraphs ago, you complained about bias. The producers can't win, it seems.

I hope Simon and co were watching to see how a reality show final should be done....
I expect he did. He's supposedly a big fan of the show and tapes it to watch when he goes home!! A few months ago he said that apart from his own shows, BGT and XF, it's the only decent show of the sort on TV.

From that, it does sound like I hate SCD and think Syco and Talkback did a wonderful job. I thought SCD was OK. I admit that I expected something a bit better, but I think it's just that dancing isn't my thing (and I don't like Bruce, Tess or most of the judges). Overall, I think there are many points for improvement from XF4, but the final was a generally well done show.
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Old 24-12-2007, 01:09
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^ Did he really say that? I know he knows Arlene from the 80s and Arlene used to be friends with Sharon when, Arlene choreographed Ozzy when they went on tour.
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Old 24-12-2007, 01:21
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I read the papers!
which means your opinion was that of a newspaper, well done
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Old 24-12-2007, 01:26
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^ Did he really say that? I know he knows Arlene from the 80s and Arlene used to be friends with Sharon when, Arlene choreographed Ozzy when they went on tour.
He's praised it a few times, without ever admitting to the taping stories AFAIK!! I don't think Louis Walsh is so keen on SCD, though.
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Old 24-12-2007, 08:22
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Exactly! what is the point of SCD anyway?
To entertain the public I imagine? Something the X Factor didn't do very well IMO this year - too many sob stories and weak performances I didn't enjoy. (At least Alesha didn't sob on for hours about her unhappy childhood/broken marriage before she performed!) By the end I was muting everything but the singing

I think Rhydian should have won but I don't blame the x factor producers really. The general public chose Leon, wrong outcome. The public doesn't get it right everytime, in my opinion Leon won because of his image, a volunerable young man and GBP are a sucker for that. lol
The barrage of sob stories and the way the X Factor final was treated like a regional version of the Eurovision Song Contest probably didn't help. One of the saddest things is that I really thought everyone took the contestants appeal for the sympathy factor with a pinch of salt, rather than being gullible enough to lap them up and vote based on the VTs!
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Old 24-12-2007, 08:27
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It was slicker and a million times better organised. No bias whatsoever, both contestants numbers appeared on screen at the same time from the start of the show. The running order didn't change randomly half way through, the judges were careful not to single either contestant out for special praise (despite the fact Alesha was obviousley better). You could actually get through when you tried to vote.

Oh and most importantly the right person won in the end. Though you wouldn't have minded if Matt had won, because he was a strong contender to. So obviousley there was more talent as well.

I hope Simon and co were watching to see how a reality show final should be done....
My mum couldn't get through for Alesha.
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