Boxing day sale, model KDL40P3020U.

Any thoughts on this model?

http://direct.tesco.com/q/R.200-0385.aspx

Also from Sainsbury KDL40U3000U @ £599

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I would love some feedback from others before, I part with my cash!

Edit. Just found out this one is not FULLY HD 1080i

[bobcar]

Did you really expect it to be full HD for a Sony at that price?

That doesn't mean it isn't a decent TV - I can't comment on that since I'm not familiar with it but I'm sure others will be.

[sancheeez]

'tis a nice TV. I bought one about 6 weeks ago. (Didn't pay anything like £799 for it or I'd be well hacked off having seen that!)

Very happy with it.

Beautiful picture .... sharp, crisp colours. No motion blur or smearing that I can see. HD stuff is fantastic (have Sky HD, 360 and laptop connected up to it - as well as a DVD player and about 5 other consoles) and looks spot on. Having never had FULL HD, can't say I miss it .... what it does do, it does well though. The sound isn't too bad either .... but if I want good sound, I switch the amp on.

Some low bitrate SD channels (ITV2, a lot of stuff on Eurosport) look pretty nasty but they've looked nasty in pretty much every large panel I've ever seen them on.

What else do you want to know?

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Originally Posted by sancheeez

'tis a nice TV. I bought one about 6 weeks ago. (Didn't pay anything like £799 for it or I'd be well hacked off having seen that!)

Very happy with it.

Beautiful picture .... sharp, crisp colours. No motion blur or smearing that I can see. HD stuff is fantastic (have Sky HD, 360 and laptop connected up to it - as well as a DVD player and about 5 other consoles) and looks spot on. Having never had FULL HD, can't say I miss it .... what it does do, it does well though. The sound isn't too bad either .... but if I want good sound, I switch the amp on.

Some low bitrate SD channels (ITV2, a lot of stuff on Eurosport) look pretty nasty but they've looked nasty in pretty much every large panel I've ever seen them on.

What else do you want to know?

Does it make tea?

Thanks for your feedback!

[sancheeez]

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Originally Posted by Hancock

Does it make tea?

There are a couple of slots left at the back of it I haven't found a use for yet so you never know!

[ntlhellworld]

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Originally Posted by Hancock

Edit. Just found out this one is not FULLY HD 1080i

lol, well, no LCD is fully 1080i. Afew are fully 1080p though - this one isnt.

-Chris

[daveywavey1212]

hancock what r u talkin about

Edit. Just found out this one is not FULLY HD 1080i

I think alot of people r going over board with this 1080p You can not tell the difference i have both and the picture to the human eye is identicle to a professional cyborg it might be different.
The fundamental specification for HDTV starts with 720 lines. Because of this, almost all HD-ready TVs are geared up for 720-line resolutions and its interlaced variant - 1080i. The marketing blurbs that call 1080p 'full HD' are misleading. 720p is a valid high definition format. It is HD. This is one of the basic requirements for the 'HD-ready' logo.To date, no HDTV broadcasts are based on a 1080p resolution. So for watching HD programmes on Sky HD or BBC HD,720p/1080i TV is all you need. A full 1080p picture would require so much bandwidth to broadcast that it's not likely to appear for several years.

Unless you have a really giant screen - and by this I mean 50-inch or more - then most people can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. What is more noticeable is the difference between interlaced and progressive video. So, stick with your standard HD-ready gear and set it all to 720p.

conclusion if you are after a tv bigger than 50" go for 1080p otherwise keep your money in your pocket

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Originally Posted by daveywavey1212

hancock what r u talkin about

Edit. Just found out this one is not FULLY HD 1080i

I think alot of people r going over board with this 1080p You can not tell the difference i have both and the picture to the human eye is identicle to a professional cyborg it might be different.
The fundamental specification for HDTV starts with 720 lines. Because of this, almost all HD-ready TVs are geared up for 720-line resolutions and its interlaced variant - 1080i. The marketing blurbs that call 1080p 'full HD' are misleading. 720p is a valid high definition format. It is HD. This is one of the basic requirements for the 'HD-ready' logo.To date, no HDTV broadcasts are based on a 1080p resolution. So for watching HD programmes on Sky HD or BBC HD,720p/1080i TV is all you need. A full 1080p picture would require so much bandwidth to broadcast that it's not likely to appear for several years.

Unless you have a really giant screen - and by this I mean 50-inch or more - then most people can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. What is more noticeable is the difference between interlaced and progressive video. So, stick with your standard HD-ready gear and set it all to 720p.

conclusion if you are after a tv bigger than 50" go for 1080p otherwise keep your money in your pocket

Thanks...........for making it clear

[bobcar]

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Originally Posted by daveywavey1212

Unless you have a really giant screen - and by this I mean 50-inch or more - then most people can't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. What is more noticeable is the difference between interlaced and progressive video. So, stick with your standard HD-ready gear and set it all to 720p.

conclusion if you are after a tv bigger than 50" go for 1080p otherwise keep your money in your pocket

I would qualify what you've said here by pointing out that it's size/viewing distance that's important not size by itself.

As I type this I'm looking at a screen with a resolution close to full HD on a 17" monitor (and it's needed) however because I view my 50" Panny plasma at 12' I do not need a full HD set (it is 1080p just not full HD).

I would also disagree about sticking all your gear to 720p, Sky HD transmits primarily in 1080i so I would send it to the TV in that format (unless the Sky box has a better de-interlacer than the TV). I send DVD at 576p though if I get a high definition DVD player with a superior upscaler I may go to 1080i/p. The thing to do is try each framing and see which looks the best for each piece of kit.

[Nigel Goodwin]

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I would also disagree about sticking all your gear to 720p, Sky HD transmits primarily in 1080i so I would send it to the TV in that format.

As do all UK broadcasters - setting the box to 720P is generally pointless, as the transmissions are all 1080i or 576P. Your TV already de-interlaces the picture anyway, so unless you've got a really poor TV there's no point letting the box do it.

Also, as most HD Ready TV's are 768 pixels, upscaling from 720P is generally far worse than down-scaling from 1080i - plus with 720P you're having to scale twice instead of once.

As always try all the settings and see what YOU prefer, after all, they are 'customer settings'!.

[daveywavey1212]

1080i is no different to 720p visually

[Nigel Goodwin]

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1080i is no different to 720p visually

You mean apart from the much higher resolution?

[bobcar]

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Originally Posted by daveywavey1212

1080i is no different to 720p visually

It is very different, it can be better or worse depending on what you are viewing.

Both have the same amount of information but 720p has higher temporal resolution whereas 1080i has higher spacial resolution.

However Sky is sent 1080i (not sure if always but certainly mostly) so there is no point translating it to 720p unless the Sky box is better at de-interlacing than the TV.

It would be nice if Sky used the ability of the box to handle both and sent films in 1080i and sport (football) in 720p.

[Nigel Goodwin]

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Originally Posted by bobcar

It is very different, it can be better or worse depending on what you are viewing.

Both have the same amount of information but 720p has higher temporal resolution whereas 1080i has higher spacial resolution.

However Sky is sent 1080i (not sure if always but certainly mostly) so there is no point translating it to 720p unless the Sky box is better at de-interlacing than the TV.

It would be nice if Sky used the ability of the box to handle both and sent films in 1080i and sport (football) in 720p.

As far as I know, ALL HD broadcasts from Sky are in 1080i, and for that matter all others on 28.2E are as well - the BBC supposedly did a few 720P tests in the early days of their test channel though.