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Old 27-12-2007, 12:25
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Do they really exist, and why was it established? what exactly do they stand for? and are there any benefits in being a member?
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Old 27-12-2007, 12:39
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Yes, the Masons do exist. I know someone who's a Mason, but I don't really know much about them.

There's more info here.
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Old 27-12-2007, 12:57
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This could be an interesting thread. Do we have any members on DS? Where's the "raise one eyebrow" smiley?
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:06
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The Freemasons are alive and well, mainly it is a boys club for charity fundraising. They raise huge amount of money each year. There was a lot of controversy over the years in that many lodges had policemen, judges, and the odd criminal within them. I believe now that these people have to declare their membership.

People always talk about how they all look after each other but at the end of the day that happens within any club or society.
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:13
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JFK on Secret Societies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

Must watch!
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:18
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Have a read from the horses mouth

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Old 27-12-2007, 15:47
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One of my friends at work is a member, although ive not asked him much about it. They do some strange stuff, but no bid deal to me. Hes a top fella.
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:47
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when I was a really young kid i said to my Grandad something along the lines of "the mason's sounds really stupid" and he replied in a sinister old man way "you'll change your mind" It really freaked me out - I never forgot it.

I'm 99.99999% certain he wasn't one, which makes it an even odder thing to say. Unless you want to freak your Grandkids out In which case he did a good job
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:48
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A very clever man miles ahead of his time
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Old 27-12-2007, 15:49
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Well some very powerful men have been masons...
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:05
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I used to be a Freemason.
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:20
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I used to be a Freemason.

Why arent you now?
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:22
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Well some very powerful men have been masons...
And some very powerful men haven't
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:26
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Why arent you now?
Got bored with it TBH. I was in Craft (Naturally) and went `through the chair`, was in Mark up to SD and Chapter up to PZ. The ritual was time consuming and I just lost heart after a while. Didn`t see anything sinister mind you.
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:34
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Got bored with it TBH. I was in Craft (Naturally) and went `through the chair`, was in Mark up to SD and Chapter up to PZ. The ritual was time consuming and I just lost heart after a while. Didn`t see anything sinister mind you.
Ppl can do lots of good for society without joining a club, its the myth behind the freemasons that most people wonder about like what are the rituals for and whay do they have a secret handshake etc.
Having looked at the link above it would seem there are other clubs that stand for slightly different rules beliefs etc. but are still called freemasons. Are there standard rules for each club to follow. And what exactly is a supreme being, would Kilroy qualify
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:46
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I know someone who is a mason and I've found out quite a bit.

To be honest there isn't much to know. It's more symbolic than anything else.

As for benefits, if you are a member, or family of a member and you get in difficulty, either through ill health or money or whatever, generally you can get help from the masons.

They do, as was mentioned above, great amounts for charity.

A lot of people think its a religious thing, but its not really. All they ask is that you believe in a god of some kind, whoever it may be.

Also, it is sometimes confused with the Orange Lodge, but its entirely different from that.
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:47
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Ppl can do lots of good for society without joining a club, its the myth behind the freemasons that most people wonder about like what are the rituals for and whay do they have a secret handshake etc.
Having looked at the link above it would seem there are other clubs that stand for slightly different rules beliefs etc. but are still called freemasons. Do they have the same standards of belief etc?
You haven`t called it a `secret society` (a common mistake), Freemasonry is a `society with secrets`. Years ago the divulgence of membership was frowned upon if communicated to a non member. It is encouraged nowadays mainly to boost interest and membership. The meanings behind the handshakes are symbolic and can be found either through Google or in a public library as can details of the rituals.

Freemasonry has 32 (I think) Degrees ranging from Entered Apprentice up to Knights Templar, there are another six hidden degrees that arent spoken about (long suspected to be the orders of the Limping Ferret but I may be wrong). The beliefs within the different degrees are essentially the same but the commitment to the Craft increases with the amount of degrees. The higher ones are populated by retired men with little else in their lives, but hey, it`s a hobby for them I guess!
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Old 27-12-2007, 16:59
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You haven`t called it a `secret society` (a common mistake), Freemasonry is a `society with secrets`. Years ago the divulgence of membership was frowned upon if communicated to a non member. It is encouraged nowadays mainly to boost interest and membership. The meanings behind the handshakes are symbolic and can be found either through Google or in a public library as can details of the rituals.

Freemasonry has 32 (I think) Degrees ranging from Entered Apprentice up to Knights Templar, there are another six hidden degrees that arent spoken about (long suspected to be the orders of the Limping Ferret but I may be wrong). The beliefs within the different degrees are essentially the same but the commitment to the Craft increases with the amount of degrees. The higher ones are populated by retired men with little else in their lives, but hey, it`s a hobby for them I guess!
I suppose it can get you away from her indoors for a bit I suppost it has to move with a changing society
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Old 27-12-2007, 17:23
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did he write that speach?
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Old 27-12-2007, 18:32
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did he write that speach?
No sorry thats one of mine
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Old 27-12-2007, 20:14
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No sorry thats one of mine
very funny.

JFK on Secret Societies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

this, was this written by JFK or was he doing a George bush?
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Old 27-12-2007, 20:17
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Do they really exist, and why was it established? what exactly do they stand for? and are there any benefits in being a member?
I know some people who are Masons.

They are not some sort of secret society. They are very open about their membership.
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Old 27-12-2007, 20:18
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This could be an interesting thread. Do we have any members on DS? Where's the "raise one eyebrow" smiley?
Roger Moore must be a Mason then
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Old 27-12-2007, 20:19
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A very clever man miles ahead of his time
His writers were.

very funny.

JFK on Secret Societies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

this, was this written by JFK or was he doing a George bush?
He was George W Bush without the minimal brains or political know-how.

The only decision he ever made himself brought the world the closest it has ever come to World War III.

If only he'd lived long enough for his incompetencies to come to light and not be swept under the carpet out of respect for the dead (that still existed in those days).
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Old 27-12-2007, 20:51
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very funny.

JFK on Secret Societies - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

this, was this written by JFK or was he doing a George bush?
Sorry I didnt read your reply correctly the one liner was mine

Im too young to know what JFK stood for or believed in
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