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Old 09-01-2008, 16:13
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Our washing machine has always been in the garage but since our current one has just broken, it got me thinking about getting the new one plumbed in to the kitchen instead.

Does anyone have any idea roughly how much this would cost to get done (i.e. any plumbers out there or people who have had this done recently)?

It would be against an exterior wall, next to the sink, if that helps.

Also, can anyone recommended which new washing machine to buy? Good, reliable make etc.?

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Old 09-01-2008, 16:35
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It depends on were u live cos there is a big price difference, its easy enough to do cos modern washers only have a cold feed to them,
but i would say around 50 should see it right but jst get some prices first and ask around if anyone u know could do it,
It will take 1 hour tops as well!!
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Old 09-01-2008, 16:40
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It depends on were u live cos there is a big price difference, its easy enough to do cos modern washers only have a cold feed to them,
but i would say around 50 should see it right but jst get some prices first and ask around if anyone u know could do it,
It will take 1 hour tops as well!!
I believe you have well underestimated the cost and time involved.
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Old 09-01-2008, 16:45
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Our washing machine has always been in the garage but since our current one has just broken, it got me thinking about getting the new one plumbed in to the kitchen instead.

Does anyone have any idea roughly how much this would cost to get done (i.e. any plumbers out there or people who have had this done recently)?

It would be against an exterior wall, next to the sink, if that helps.

Also, can anyone recommended which new washing machine to buy? Good, reliable make etc.?Thanks
Without a doubt Zanussi - You never see a Zanussi van on the road!
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Old 09-01-2008, 16:48
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I believe you have well underestimated the cost and time involved.
No - He/she hasn't.
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Old 09-01-2008, 19:01
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I did exactly the same last weekend - the space next to the sink was big enough, tapped into the cold water supply and hooked up the drain - job done in 45 mins (and that included drinking a coffee while I worked).

Cost may be more if you want a machine that's intergrated into your units - they can be a right pain to level, and the machines are generally less reliable - Indesit especially bad.
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Old 09-01-2008, 19:09
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No - He/she hasn't.
I, and everyone else I know was charging 50 to 90 for plumbing-in a washing machine over 20 years ago (I can't remember the prices that I was charging for the previous 15 years).

And no, it wasn't a cowboy rip-off like you see on TV, it was the going rate for qualified engineers.
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Old 09-01-2008, 19:41
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15 for parts 35 labour total time 1 hour tops total 50, and as for the 50-90 20 years ago i find that very hard to beleave,
Im a qualified electrician and work for myself and 35 an hour is about right and also have many m8's that are plumbers and thats what they charge
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Old 09-01-2008, 20:04
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Thanks for the info

Should I remove the existing drawer units from where I want the washing machine to go before I ask a plumber to visit?

Is there any reason/problem that would cause the job to be more expensive/lengthier?
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Old 09-01-2008, 20:16
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15 for parts 35 labour total time 1 hour tops total 50, and as for the 50-90 20 years ago i find that very hard to beleave,
Im a qualified electrician and work for myself and 35 an hour is about right and also have many m8's that are plumbers and thats what they charge

Believe what you like but I don't tell lies nor is my memory playing tricks with me.

I and everyone else who were self-employed charged by the job, not by hourly rate.

I expect the difference in wages/income between north and south can be taken into account.
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Old 09-01-2008, 21:07
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Thanks for the info

Should I remove the existing drawer units from where I want the washing machine to go before I ask a plumber to visit?

Is there any reason/problem that would cause the job to be more expensive/lengthier?
Preparing the space yourself will keep the costs down.

That said, if you don't already have a machine there it will make it harder work as water supply, drainage and maybe even electricity will need to be provided. Expect that to cost more, especially if it's nowhere near to the sink unit or an outside wall. If that's the case, get a plumber in before you even touch the units.

As regards makes, I do know someone who had a lot of trouble with Zanussi. I'd go for anything German, particularly Bosch.
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Old 09-01-2008, 21:22
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Well, the washing machine would be next to the sink and against an outside wall, but there has never been a washing machine there before.

Sorry, if I confused anyone, does that mean it will cost a lot more than 50?
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Old 09-01-2008, 21:35
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Well, the washing machine would be next to the sink and against an outside wall, but there has never been a washing machine there before.

Sorry, if I confused anyone, does that mean it will cost a lot more than 50?
The best thing to do is get a couple of quotes (not estimates).
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Old 09-01-2008, 21:42
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I used to be a plumber and the job you describe should take 30 mins max unless there are complications. If you are using a largish company they will typically send out an apprentice to do such a task. Don't know how much you'd be charged by a plumbing company these days. It's a pretty easy job, have you considered a local handyman who would likely charge a lot less?
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:01
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So do all new washing machines only connect to the cold water supply? How do they work? I'm not familiar with that system at all as my current washing machine is connected to the cold and hot water systems. I've been told that really old washing machines used to only connect to the cold water but they used to take ages for the water to heat up before they could be used.

Sorry, if this seems a silly question.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:11
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It depends on were u live cos there is a big price difference, its easy enough to do cos modern washers only have a cold feed to them,
but i would say around 50 should see it right but jst get some prices first and ask around if anyone u know could do it,
It will take 1 hour tops as well!!
Aint no way I would do it for 50, at least double.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:16
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Without a doubt Zanussi - You never see a Zanussi van on the road!
So ???? if they use contractors then you never will as they will be unmarked vans, besides they are part of electrolux and you see their vans on the road.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:20
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I, and everyone else I know was charging 50 to 90 for plumbing-in a washing machine over 20 years ago (I can't remember the prices that I was charging for the previous 15 years).

And no, it wasn't a cowboy rip-off like you see on TV, it was the going rate for qualified engineers.

Far too much then. We have a friend who does any odd job, plumbing, electrical etc for 10 each. Tradesmen just rip you off. Who in their right mind pays 90 an hour as I was quoted?
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:30
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We have a friend who does any odd job, plumbing, electrical etc for 10 each.
LOL ...... does he park his horse outside and then look for somewhere to hang his stetson?

If you're telling me you'd trust someone like that with the electrics in you house I'm amazed you haven't been electrocuted/gassed/drowned yet!
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:31
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Far too much then. We have a friend who does any odd job, plumbing, electrical etc for 10 each. Tradesmen just rip you off. Who in their right mind pays 90 an hour as I was quoted?
The space for the machine likely has no connection points for water and drainage and power. It won't be as simple as just replacing one machine with another, for which I wouldn't pay more than 30. It needs someone to visit and quote properly.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:34
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LOL ...... does he park his horse outside and then look for somewhere to hang his stetson?

If you're telling me you'd trust someone like that with the electrics in you house I'm amazed you haven't been electrocuted/gassed/drowned yet!

He's a Lithuanian that a neighbour knows and can do anything, plumbing, joinery, electrics. Fitted us a new kitchen mixer tap yesterday for a tenner and new dimmer switch in the lounge today for another tenner. We bought the tap and dimmer switch of course. Were quoted 80 each by rip-off tradesmen, plus the tap and dimmer switch.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:35
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So do all new washing machines only connect to the cold water supply? How do they work? I'm not familiar with that system at all as my current washing machine is connected to the cold and hot water systems. I've been told that really old washing machines used to only connect to the cold water but they used to take ages for the water to heat up before they could be used.

Sorry, if this seems a silly question.
As I understand it, yes, it's more economical for these machines to heat the water they use than to draw hot water from the house system.

Our Bosch is a year old and I haven't noticed it taking long periods for heating. That said, most washes are 40 degrees or less these days.

I imagine it would be cheaper to heat the water you need to the temperature you need rather than to let the house heat it to 50 or 60 degrees only to add cold water to bring it back down to the right temperature.

Hope that makes sense.
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Old 15-01-2008, 22:36
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The space for the machine likely has no connection points for water and drainage and power. It won't be as simple as just replacing one machine with another, for which I wouldn't pay more than 30. It needs someone to visit and quote properly.

Ask around and see if a neighbour or friend knows anyone like we did. Don't line a tradesman's pockets.
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Old 15-01-2008, 23:03
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The space for the machine likely has no connection points for water and drainage and power. It won't be as simple as just replacing one machine with another, for which I wouldn't pay more than 30. It needs someone to visit and quote properly.
LOL... my minimum charge is 65, I dont know any plumbers who would call for anywhere near that.
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Old 16-01-2008, 02:29
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LOL... my minimum charge is 65, I dont know any plumbers who would call for anywhere near that.
Strange that in spite of all the information readily available, people will still employ unqualified cowboys instead of trained and insured tradesmen.

To keep refering to tradesmen as rip-off is quite silly.
Not all plumbers are the same as the ones seen on consumer programmes.
Qualified and honest tradesmen charge the accepted going rate for work of a high standard or they wouldn't be in business for long.
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