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Old 10-01-2008, 00:57
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and how long will it last for? The chicken run programes were excellent and have certainly caused debate. I'm looking forwrd to Jamies Fowl dinners as well. What did you all think?
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:13
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Very controversial and thought provoking programme, i'm a vegetarian and have been for nearly two years now but i quit meat for the reasons which have been highlighted on the programme, eg: the bad conditions, also for health reasons but that's a different matter

Jamie's fowl dinners will be the really killer one in my opinion.. there's a similar thing going on with kill it,cook it, eat it, but this is going to be televised much more broadly and should give some controversy about
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:41
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We always bought free range chicken before this short series, but now we won't buy any product that contains intensively farmed chicken.
A real eye opener to the unnecessary suffering of the animals and the profit-hungry attitude of the supermarkets.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:03
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I haven't stopped eating chicken, I do enjoy chicken. I am choosy though with what food I buy.
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:00
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I already eat free range and avoid ready meals containing chicken on the assumption that they will contain battery birds.
But I must admit it was purely on the grounds of free range tasting nicer and that I'm dubious about what battery birds are fed on.
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:06
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We only buy free range chickens, but I will admit to sometimes forgetting when it comes to breasts/portions etc. That will change from now on.

I find it very disturbing that we even allow chickens to be kept in the terrible conditions; to hell with the cost argument, give up something inanimate instead!
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:06
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To be honest, the conditions for those chickens didn't look too bad. The program was almost completely one sided, if Hugh had pointed out only the positives of the chicken shed (food,light,warmth etc..) I'm sure people would feel less guilty about eating them. Also taking the town's emoitional wrecks into the chicken shed didn't help much.

Remember, they're just chickens, not people...
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Old 10-01-2008, 08:57
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I already eat free range and avoid ready meals containing chicken on the assumption that they will contain battery birds.
But I must admit it was purely on the grounds of free range tasting nicer and that I'm dubious about what battery birds are fed on.
"battery" birds are raised to lay cheap eggs; you mean "broiler" chickens.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:04
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To be honest, the conditions for those chickens didn't look too bad. The program was almost completely one sided, if Hugh had pointed out only the positives of the chicken shed (food,light,warmth etc..) I'm sure people would feel less guilty about eating them. Also taking the town's emoitional wrecks into the chicken shed didn't help much.

Remember, they're just chickens, not people...
I hope the majority of people will disagree with you. Being so cramped that it's difficult to stand and sitting in your own waste matter is no life for any living creature in my opinion. Personally I've always bought free change chicken pieces, but as others have pointed out, even those of us that do that might be caught out when buying packaged / take away foods.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:06
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To be honest, the conditions for those chickens didn't look too bad. The program was almost completely one sided, if Hugh had pointed out only the positives of the chicken shed (food,light,warmth etc..) I'm sure people would feel less guilty about eating them. Also taking the town's emoitional wrecks into the chicken shed didn't help much.

Remember, they're just chickens, not people...
That really pisses me off no end. I hate the attitude man has that they are the most important thing on the planet and everything else is beneath them and just there for them to exploit.

The positives which call them are not for the benefit of the chicken. Keeping lights on for 23.5 hrs of the day so they are awake and eat continiously so they fatten up quickly and can't hardly walk is for the man's benefit and most definitely not the chickens.

If you think chickens or any other animal does not feel distress or pain and people should not care that they are causing that, then --
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:11
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:15
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Remember, they're just chickens, not people...
If you were a chicken you'd be happy to sit in a space the size of an A4 piece of paper, with the ammonia in your own waste burning lumps out of your legs, with nothing to do but eat until your breasts got so big your legs wouldn't support you?

Yeah, right.

They might be chickens and not percieve or see things the way humans do, but they feel pain.

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Old 10-01-2008, 09:19
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I didn't watch those programmes because I can't handle things like that. I've eaten exclusively free range chicken for years though, simply because they taste better. I don't support animal cruelty but I won't be made to feel bad about eating meat.
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:41
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I didn't watch those programmes because I can't handle things like that. I've eaten exclusively free range chicken for years though, simply because they taste better. I don't support animal cruelty but I won't be made to feel bad about eating meat.


That was never the point of the program and I think anyone who has seen any of Hugh's programs knows how much he enjoys eating meat but if you're going to eat meat it would be nice to know that the animal has been treated well and kept in good conditions for it's life span (no matter how short).
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Old 10-01-2008, 09:47
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Free range chickens tend to cost a bit more than the standard ones...some people might not really have a choice over which type they eat. I support the general message the show was trying to send out but I worry that some people can't afford free range chickens and will feel bad as a result of the show.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:01
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i stopped just before christmas.
i bought an M&S ready cooked chicken potion top half seemed fine,when i went in a bit deeper the meat was all Lime Green.
I got in touch with M&S almost right away and had a phone call back
'ohh dont worry weve just found out a batch of chickens cooked with the Gall bladder still in place,thats what caused the green...nothing to worry about at all sir'
i vowed then will never eat meat again even looking at the stuff now makes me feel sick.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:07
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That was never the point of the program and I think anyone who has seen any of Hugh's programs knows how much he enjoys eating meat but if you're going to eat meat it would be nice to know that the animal has been treated well and kept in good conditions for it's life span (no matter how short).
Straight and to the point post. I agree that the conditions animals & birds are kept in matter. I will still eat meat but try to ensure I only buy that which has been free range reared
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:27
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True, they aren't humans, but we as humans have a choice as to how we treat them.

I'm definately free range wherever I can now.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:28
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That was never the point of the program and I think anyone who has seen any of Hugh's programs knows how much he enjoys eating meat but if you're going to eat meat it would be nice to know that the animal has been treated well and kept in good conditions for it's life span (no matter how short).
lol is it a chicken or a pet? I am all for treating animals with some dignity, but next you'll be telling me we should all donate scatter cushions for them to sit on. As for Huge F-Wit, he is just preaching the same song as everyone else, because its what he gets paid to do. If he didn't, there would be no reason to give him a tv show.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:38
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Chickens have been kept in these conditions for decades though and only now we are having a sudden outcry. My family ran a chicken farm which they sold in the late 1960's as they could not match the prices accepted by companies that farmed intensively. They had farmed chickens for generations before that, and had seen them change from a delicacy enjoyed by the gentry and only occasionally by everyone else, to a meat bought by every household on a regular basis.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:21
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Do people who buy free range chicken actually realise the minimum requirements set by which a chicken is allowed to be labelled as "free range"?

Just half of its lifetime with continuous daytime access to open-air runs, comprising an area mainly covered by vegetation, of not less than:
· 1mē per chicken or guinea fowl
· 2mē per duck
· 4mē per turkey or goose

Not all "free range" is the romanticised version of animals running around all day in open fields that you see on TV, and as long as there is profit to be made animals will always be exploited, abused and treated as little more than commodities.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:29
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The whole intensive farming thing is sick, not just for the chickens - but the quality of meat you put in your mouth. It's bad Karma for the human race !

The sooner we can grow artificial meat in petri dishes for all those bothered by cost, the better. You couldn't be feeding yourself on a more un-natural freak of nature anyhow.

I don't eat meat, and I think these programmes have some trouble reaching out to people who need to see them most (ie It made little difference to me, i was just interested to see it)

I would like to know how many of the people of Axminster kept to their pledge.

If it wasn't for the intensive rearing of Animals I doubt I would have stopped eating meat, ie If my family had thought about getting free range and we had a good varied diet, I think it's less likely I would have cut meat completely out of my diet, but in my younger days not eating flesh was my only way of opting out of being part of the intensive farming cycle.

I only buy free range eggs (usually organic) the prices do make me wince, but c'est la vie. I can't buy the battery ones.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:47
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I eat meat and I've come to terms with the reality of that - I understand that an animal has to die to feed me. I don't eat a lot, but I do eat it.

What these shows have highlighted for me is that I need to put more effort into ensuring the quality and sources of my meat. I already made some attempts but I will now be far more pro-active when buying.
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:55
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It's quite simple really....... we should treat animals with respect and compassion.

We long ago stopped buying supermarket meat (whenever possible), even free range, and started buying from a local organic farm shop. The difference in taste was incredible (the animals are not intensively reared and are less tressed resulting in better meat).

Having said that Hugh F was either naive or stupid (or both) berating Waitrose for 'only' selling 50% of chickens free range. Not everyone can afford the higher costs and Rome was not built in a day.

I'm unsure how some people think how stuff ends up on their dinner plates. SInce time began, animals have been raised to feed us and of course they are not going to live in 3 bedroom houses with Satellite TV...but respect and compassion should be provided to any living thing.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:02
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To be honest, the conditions for those chickens didn't look too bad.
did you miss the bits showing them all crammed in with barely enough room to stand up, where they just blow up in size too quickly, and invariably suffer enormously...

..and only see the bit with the free range ones running around outside?

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