Originally Posted by BruisedViolet:
“I decided tonight that I'm never going to eat meat again.”
“I decided tonight that I'm never going to eat meat again.”
(((((((((hugs)))))))))))) I just had a crap night thinking about all this stuff! Thankyou!!!!
So who has stopped eating chickens?
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Originally Posted by DiscoDolly69:
“I watched Jamie's show last night. Going to rethink all my meat buying. Not going to be able to afford buying all organic right away, but will see how I get on. Might not be that bad.
Having said that - I agree with a previous post. I'm saying I'll not be able to afford all organic, but I always have enough £ for a night out.”
“I watched Jamie's show last night. Going to rethink all my meat buying. Not going to be able to afford buying all organic right away, but will see how I get on. Might not be that bad.
Having said that - I agree with a previous post. I'm saying I'll not be able to afford all organic, but I always have enough £ for a night out.”
Try looking locally, a lot of farmers have their own farm shop and the meat is raised, butchered and sold locally. We pay little more for ours than the supermarket and farmers get all the profit!
Originally Posted by Poodledoodledoo:
“No, it's not total cr*p at all. Many people have a lot more important things to think about than a bit of chicken. Amazing, I know, but true. Nowhere did I say that they shouldn't look for cheaper sources of protein. I was merely pointing out that people all have different priorities. Everything about the modern lifestyle is in some way 'cruel to animals'. That, I'm afraid is just the way of the world. If people think that buying a few free range organic chickens is going to change anything then they are deluding themselves. If it makes them in some way feel better, well, so be it.
How can you trust the origin of ANY of your food unless you grow it or farm it all yourself? Simple, you can't.”
“No, it's not total cr*p at all. Many people have a lot more important things to think about than a bit of chicken. Amazing, I know, but true. Nowhere did I say that they shouldn't look for cheaper sources of protein. I was merely pointing out that people all have different priorities. Everything about the modern lifestyle is in some way 'cruel to animals'. That, I'm afraid is just the way of the world. If people think that buying a few free range organic chickens is going to change anything then they are deluding themselves. If it makes them in some way feel better, well, so be it.
How can you trust the origin of ANY of your food unless you grow it or farm it all yourself? Simple, you can't.”
Yet again another ridiculous supposition - just because you can't have the best possible option you should go for the worst one. No one needs to eat chicken all the time. No one even needs to eat it once. It does not contain some amazing life giving element that is only contained within IT'S feathers. And what is this misapprehension that you are labouring under that poor people don't have enough money to buy food? Poor people in Britain are massively overweight compared to rich people. This doesn't happen through lack of food. The irony is is that health conscious affluent people are eating the food that poor people ate 100 years ago: porridge, beans, mackerel, vegetables etc.
Battery farming has been around for ever and suddenly St Jamie brings it up and we all have to eat more expensive chickens.
I detest battery farming and wish they would stop doing it, yet they allow people to work in call centres without blinking their eyelids.
All preachy hype I say and I reckon nothing will change after this flash in the pan.
I detest battery farming and wish they would stop doing it, yet they allow people to work in call centres without blinking their eyelids.
All preachy hype I say and I reckon nothing will change after this flash in the pan.
Originally Posted by Cstar2229:
“Battery farming has been around for ever and suddenly St Jamie brings it up and we all have to eat more expensive chickens.
I detest battery farming and wish they would stop doing it, yet they allow people to work in call centres without blinking their eyelids.
All preachy hype I say and I reckon nothing will change after this flash in the pan.”
“Battery farming has been around for ever and suddenly St Jamie brings it up and we all have to eat more expensive chickens.
I detest battery farming and wish they would stop doing it, yet they allow people to work in call centres without blinking their eyelids.
All preachy hype I say and I reckon nothing will change after this flash in the pan.”
well things have changed , and to my mind for the better already, My local butcher this morning was praising the programmes to the sky, he has done a roaring trade this weekend, with people buying his free range and organic meat, not just chicken, and that can only be a good thing for local shops that are dying out so fast due to pressure from supermarket shopping.
admittedly he did say it was bound to slack off a bit when it goes from peoples minds, but said if they only picked up half a dozen new customers that stayed it could make the difference between staying open and closing when the next rent rise is forced on them by the local council.
I posted on here the other day about being unsure of affording free range and organic meat. I think if I learn how to strip a whole chicken of its meat then that should keep the costs down. I only bought chicken breasts before and the costs between some ordinary and free range or organic chicken breasts are a bit steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.
Originally Posted by DiscoDolly69:
“I posted on here the other day about being unsure of affording free range and organic meat. I think if I learn how to strip a whole chicken of its meat then that should keep the costs down. I only bought chicken breasts before and the costs between some ordinary and free range or organic chicken breasts are a bit steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.”
“I posted on here the other day about being unsure of affording free range and organic meat. I think if I learn how to strip a whole chicken of its meat then that should keep the costs down. I only bought chicken breasts before and the costs between some ordinary and free range or organic chicken breasts are a bit steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.
”
get to know your local butcher, if you get a good one they are only too happy to joint it for you.
Originally Posted by BrideXIII:
“well things have changed , and to my mind for the better already, My local butcher this morning was praising the programmes to the sky, he has done a roaring trade this weekend, with people buying his free range and organic meat, not just chicken, and that can only be a good thing for local shops that are dying out so fast due to pressure from supermarket shopping.
admittedly he did say it was bound to slack off a bit when it goes from peoples minds, but said if they only picked up half a dozen new customers that stayed it could make the difference between staying open and closing when the next rent rise is forced on them by the local council.”
“well things have changed , and to my mind for the better already, My local butcher this morning was praising the programmes to the sky, he has done a roaring trade this weekend, with people buying his free range and organic meat, not just chicken, and that can only be a good thing for local shops that are dying out so fast due to pressure from supermarket shopping.
admittedly he did say it was bound to slack off a bit when it goes from peoples minds, but said if they only picked up half a dozen new customers that stayed it could make the difference between staying open and closing when the next rent rise is forced on them by the local council.”
That is great but I don't know why battery farming hasn't been addressed before.
I have to admit after watching the programme and reading comments on here on how few people actually used the whole chicken.
It was just always in my nature to ensure it's all used. OK maybe I'm tight and don't like to see anything wasted, but my parents were the same as were both sets of grandparents.
It was just always in my nature to ensure it's all used. OK maybe I'm tight and don't like to see anything wasted, but my parents were the same as were both sets of grandparents.
Originally Posted by Hunger4Unger:
“Chickens are for eating.
I couldn't give a toss how they are reared.”
“Chickens are for eating.
I couldn't give a toss how they are reared.”
It's naive to think that everyone was going to suddenly move from broiler to free range/organic chickens. But the thought of eating a chicken that's spent it's life in it's own waste is worth stopping to think if you want to eat it or not.
If not then I'm not coming to yours for dinner
I don't eat chicken, but I've decided I'll eat less eggs.
I love omelettes and scrambled eggs etc, and buy the free range organic eggs, but I will eat less - just because of how the poor male chicks get treated. I don't blame the egg industry for how it treats chickens, but I take too much for granted and I should cut down on my consumption.
I love omelettes and scrambled eggs etc, and buy the free range organic eggs, but I will eat less - just because of how the poor male chicks get treated. I don't blame the egg industry for how it treats chickens, but I take too much for granted and I should cut down on my consumption.
Originally Posted by DiscoDolly69:
“I posted on here the other day about being unsure of affording free range and organic meat. I think if I learn how to strip a whole chicken of its meat then that should keep the costs down. I only bought chicken breasts before and the costs between some ordinary and free range or organic chicken breasts are a bit steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.”
“I posted on here the other day about being unsure of affording free range and organic meat. I think if I learn how to strip a whole chicken of its meat then that should keep the costs down. I only bought chicken breasts before and the costs between some ordinary and free range or organic chicken breasts are a bit steep.
But looked up the Channel 4 website and there's info on how to cook, strip and store a whole chicken. Also info on how to joint a chicken. Seems if I put more effort into using the whole chicken then the costs aren't quite to steep.
”
Just roast the whole bird. We did that on Sunday. There are 2 of us. We had a leg each yeasterday with all the trimmings, a breast each today with vegs, and tomorrow we will get the rest of the meat and put it into a pasta sauce with fresh tagliatelli. That's 6 meals for £5.50. That is good value however you look at it.
Alan
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Just roast the whole bird. We did that on Sunday. There are 2 of us. We had a leg each yeasterday with all the trimmings, a breast each today with vegs, and tomorrow we will get the rest of the meat and put it into a pasta sauce with fresh tagliatelli. That's 6 meals for £5.50. That is good value however you look at it.
Alan”
“Just roast the whole bird. We did that on Sunday. There are 2 of us. We had a leg each yeasterday with all the trimmings, a breast each today with vegs, and tomorrow we will get the rest of the meat and put it into a pasta sauce with fresh tagliatelli. That's 6 meals for £5.50. That is good value however you look at it.
Alan”
Cheers Alan - I'll probably buy a small chicken as I'm just myself and I wouldn't it to go off before I get a chance to eat it. What a waste.
Originally Posted by DiscoDolly69:
“Cheers Alan - I'll probably buy a small chicken as I'm just myself and I wouldn't it to go off before I get a chance to eat it. What a waste.”
“Cheers Alan - I'll probably buy a small chicken as I'm just myself and I wouldn't it to go off before I get a chance to eat it. What a waste.”
You could chop the chicken in half and freeze the one half before cooking.
Originally Posted by TheFirstCut:
“You could chop the chicken in half and freeze the one half before cooking.”
“You could chop the chicken in half and freeze the one half before cooking.”
That's a great idea - thanks for that. See what I mean about not having a clue about whole chickens? Well unless I'm cooking for my pals and doing a roast. But I always thought a whole chicken would get spoiled pefore I got the chance to use it all.
Thanks for your ideas guys.
Originally Posted by alan29:
“Just roast the whole bird. We did that on Sunday. There are 2 of us. We had a leg each yeasterday with all the trimmings, a breast each today with vegs, and tomorrow we will get the rest of the meat and put it into a pasta sauce with fresh tagliatelli. That's 6 meals for £5.50. That is good value however you look at it.
Alan”
“Just roast the whole bird. We did that on Sunday. There are 2 of us. We had a leg each yeasterday with all the trimmings, a breast each today with vegs, and tomorrow we will get the rest of the meat and put it into a pasta sauce with fresh tagliatelli. That's 6 meals for £5.50. That is good value however you look at it.
Alan”
If you keep all the bones you can make a chicken stock too and have a nice risotto.
Originally Posted by DiscoDolly69:
“That's a great idea - thanks for that. See what I mean about not having a clue about whole chickens? Well unless I'm cooking for my pals and doing a roast. But I always thought a whole chicken would get spoiled pefore I got the chance to use it all.
Thanks for your ideas guys.”
“That's a great idea - thanks for that. See what I mean about not having a clue about whole chickens? Well unless I'm cooking for my pals and doing a roast. But I always thought a whole chicken would get spoiled pefore I got the chance to use it all.
Thanks for your ideas guys.”
you can always freeze it after cooking as well, if you are not sure how to joint a fresh chicken, roast it, then the meat is easier to get off the bone, plus any stock you make from the carcass can be frozen too.
Originally Posted by BrideXIII:
“you can always freeze it after cooking as well, if you are not sure how to joint a fresh chicken, roast it, then the meat is easier to get off the bone, plus any stock you make from the carcass can be frozen too.”
“you can always freeze it after cooking as well, if you are not sure how to joint a fresh chicken, roast it, then the meat is easier to get off the bone, plus any stock you make from the carcass can be frozen too.”
Yes, that you can. It's just you have more choice of what to do with it uncooked, as it's not always as good using the chicken already cooked for some meals.
Originally Posted by minimalistmatt:
“I love omelettes and scrambled eggs etc, and buy the free range organic eggs, but I will eat less - just because of how the poor male chicks get treated.”
“I love omelettes and scrambled eggs etc, and buy the free range organic eggs, but I will eat less - just because of how the poor male chicks get treated.”
What will you eat instead?
I'm not sentimental about animals. It doesn't bother me that the male chicks are killed, as long as they don't suffer.
I watched both Hughs and Jamies programmes and found them both fascinating and informative.
I'm not a naive person and knew that batteries existed, but never realised what level these kind of things got too. It has affected me although to what point i'm not sure to be honest. I havent eaten any chicken since last week, which doesnt sound much but I did, well I suppose DO eat a lot of chicken.
Recently I have started to control my diet more anyway so maybe this came at the right time for me to adopt some kind of change regarding the meats I eat, I just dont know to what yet!
What is for damn sure though when buying chicken myself in whatever capacity it may be, i'll do my darnest to make sure its free range. It may not be this fanciful answer its cracked up to be but its gotta be better than battery.
I'm not a naive person and knew that batteries existed, but never realised what level these kind of things got too. It has affected me although to what point i'm not sure to be honest. I havent eaten any chicken since last week, which doesnt sound much but I did, well I suppose DO eat a lot of chicken.
Recently I have started to control my diet more anyway so maybe this came at the right time for me to adopt some kind of change regarding the meats I eat, I just dont know to what yet!
What is for damn sure though when buying chicken myself in whatever capacity it may be, i'll do my darnest to make sure its free range. It may not be this fanciful answer its cracked up to be but its gotta be better than battery.
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