Will Blu-Ray players be able to play DVD-R, DVD+R ??

Jumbo_Holden · 11-01-2008, 23:18

OK Assuming that Blu-Ray will win and ultimately replace DVD. My question would be do you think Blu-Ray players will be able to playback DVD-R / DVD+R disks OK?

I ask because I have various stuff on recordable DVD formats that I transfered over from old VHS tapes and it's important to me. So I want to feel there still going to be compatible to playback in say 10-12 years time.

Before you say it. Yes VHS quality is going to look like s**t on a HD-TV setup.

It's footage that's really really really important to me regardless of quality I want to keep.

Jarrak · 11-01-2008, 23:37

There is still a question mark over the format war but I doubt Blu-ray will replace DVD so I don't think you will have any issues with your existing recordings.
That said most HD players support DVDr/rw to the point that there are few that go so far as to define DVD-R and DVD+R, it's a given that drives handle both.
Either way by the time you could even consider dumping DVD totally just copy the DVD via a Blu-ray PC burner, £20 bare drive for a PC or equivalent

JBlink · 12-01-2008, 13:15

The other way to go is to buy a couple of cheap DVD players and put them away in a cupboard somewhere. Then if all else fails you can drag one out and watch / copy from there. No need to rush though!

Apollo 1875 · 12-01-2008, 13:44

Keep your current set-up and add a Blu-ray player when you're ready. No need to replace.

wicket · 12-01-2008, 15:58

My PS3 plays that type of dvd fine.

chriswatts · 12-01-2008, 17:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by wicket

My PS3 plays that type of dvd fine.

If you've checked out this I posted in another thread, I think that's probably the best option at the moment. You'd at least hope they would be able to play DVD-R DVD+R but if some won't be able to even play the latest blu-ray disks what hope is there!

Most stores states the spec of equipment so it's probably best to carefully read it.

GDK · 13-01-2008, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

If you've checked out this I posted in another thread, I think that's probably the best option at the moment. You'd at least hope they would be able to play DVD-R DVD+R but if some won't be able to even play the latest blu-ray disks what hope is there!

Most stores states the spec of equipment so it's probably best to carefully read it.

Now you're letting your bitterness really show, Chris! Stop spreading dis-information.

Existing Blu Ray machines will *play* all Blu Ray disks. They just won't be able to access the new interactive and web bonus features on new disks.

Blu Ray is backwards compatible. I make my own DVDs from my holiday camcorder footage and they play just fine on the PS3. There's no reason to suppose BD machines to be any any worse or better at playing recordable DVDs than existing DVD players.

GDK · 13-01-2008, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Jarrak

>snip<
Either way by the time you could even consider dumping DVD totally just copy the DVD via a Blu-ray PC burner, £20 bare drive for a PC or equivalent

I think you mean £200!

At Christmas I bought the LG Super Multi Blue GGW-H20L to use in my PC for £185. It's an (internally fitted) Blu Ray writer drive for a PC with the ability to read HD-DVD.

chriswatts · 13-01-2008, 16:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDK

Now you're letting your bitterness really show, Chris! Stop spreading dis-information.

Existing Blu Ray machines will *play* all Blu Ray disks. They just won't be able to access the new interactive and web bonus features on new disks.

The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems.

The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens!

Jarrak · 13-01-2008, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDK

I think you mean £200!

At Christmas I bought the LG Super Multi Blue GGW-H20L to use in my PC for £185. It's an (internally fitted) Blu Ray writer drive for a PC with the ability to read HD-DVD.

Nope, I meant by the time DVD was not an option then a blu-ray recorder drive for the PC would be £20

GDK · 13-01-2008, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarrak

Nope, I meant by the time DVD was not an option then a blu-ray recorder drive for the PC would be £20

OK! Misunderstood!

13-01-2008, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems.

The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens!

It might at that: there is a fair chance that the format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray will be largely settled by then, too.

FWIW, my PS3 plays DVD+Rs, as did my old DVD recorder. I'd be surprised if future BD players didn't.

GDK · 13-01-2008, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems.

The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens!

At age 47, I'm no fanboy.

To the extent that anyone buying HD-DVD now is investing in a format that has no future beyond 2008, HD-DVD is dead. With HD-DVD, what you see now is, give or take, what you'll see forever.

My interest is to help people avoid buying kit that has no future.

An analogy: It was many years after VHS won that war that Sony finally stopped making Betamax machines - but there were no pre-recorded movies to speak of very quickly. Pre-recorded material matters much more to this market than it did video tape, since most people only used tape for off-air timeshift recording.

In this market, studio support counts, and HD-DVD, with WB defection, has lost. That was a tipping point and the other studios will follow suit.

My concern now is whether Blu Ray will ultimately replace DVD. I do have my doubts about that. There's still a strong chance it will wind up like LD did in the US - seen as an upmarket niche product, and never replace DVD.

13-01-2008, 16:51

It's not just WB. A number of minor studios that were previously HD DVD exclusive have started releasing content on Blu-ray, and one that was previously neutral (Constantin) is dropping HD DVD support. That's an indication of a trend. While I would not declare HD DVD "dead" just yet, with four out of six major studios supporting Blu-ray exclusively or imminently switching to Blu-ray exclusivity, with 2:1 sales in favour of BD in the USA, 3:1 in Europe and 10:1 in Japan, it's fair to say that its future is looking increasingly bleak.

GDK · 13-01-2008, 17:07

Exactly my point. WB decision was a tipping point. Minor studios are already following suit. It can only be a matter of (the right amount of face-saving) time before Paramount and Universal publicly announce BD support.

chriswatts · 13-01-2008, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDK

My interest is to help people avoid buying kit that has no future.

If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end. Your the biggest f***ing fanboy on this forum 47 or not!

Quote:

My concern now is whether Blu Ray will ultimately replace DVD. I do have my doubts about that. There's still a strong chance it will wind up like LD did in the US - seen as an upmarket niche product, and never replace DVD.

Only a fanboy at this stage would be even considering Blu Ray replacing DVD. There's far more things down the line before that happens, a lot more people have to purchase HD sets, the Freeview switch over has to have come and gone then and only then perhaps that question might be considered!

13-01-2008, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end.

What do you tell them if they insist that they don't want to wait?

chriswatts · 13-01-2008, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomen Luni

What do you tell them if they insist that they don't want to wait?

You pay your money you take your chance!

Blu-ray seems like 90% probable but until they stop producing the last HD DVD drive there's always the very slim possibility.

GDK · 13-01-2008, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end. Your the biggest f***ing fanboy on this forum 47 or not!

Only a fanboy at this stage would be even considering Blu Ray replacing DVD. There's far more things down the line before that happens, a lot more people have to purchase HD sets, the Freeview switch over has to have come and gone then and only then perhaps that question might be considered!

Stop the fanboy comments or I will withdraw from this conversation. I don't like your insults or manner. Try to be constructive?

*Of course*, that's a long term thing, which is why I suggested it might *not* happen.

*If* you're interested in future-proofing a HD on disk purchase, the PS3 is the only way to go.

chriswatts · 13-01-2008, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDK

Stop the fanboy comments or I will withdraw from this conversation. I don't like your insults or manner. Try to be constructive?

*Of course*, that's a long term thing, which is why I suggested it might *not* happen.

*If* you're interested in future-proofing a HD on disk purchase, the PS3 is the only way to go.

Now your just taking the p**s I hope your not suguesting someone goes out and buy's a PS3 just for HD! I won't say what I think of the PS3 but really if someone is looking for a games console they should really be looking at it as a console not a HD player. It's just a added bonus that it plays HD.

13-01-2008, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

You pay your money you take your chance!

Blu-ray seems like 90% probable but until they stop producing the last HD DVD drive there's always the very slim possibility.

Well, I'd say the writing ought to be on the wall rather sooner than that. It'll be interesting to see what happens come June when Warner HD DVDs become scarce. Warner has been a relatively significant driving force in HDM title availability.

I'd say that while it might not be to everyone's taste, the best option if you really want HDM right now is a PS3. Of course, it's almost always best to wait if you don't want it right now: after all, prices of CE equipment don't generally go up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

Now your just taking the p**s I hope your not suguesting someone goes out and buy's a PS3 just for HD! I won't say what I think of the PS3 but really if someone is looking for a games console they should really be looking at it as a console not a HD player. It's just a added bonus that it plays HD.

Why "should" they look at it as a console and not an HDM player? It does a very good job as an HDM player. (A better job than it does as a games console, right now.) It's also more futureproof and cheaper than alternative BD players.

Jarrak · 13-01-2008, 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomen Luni

Well, I'd say the writing ought to be on the wall rather sooner than that. It'll be interesting to see what happens come June when Warner HD DVDs become scarce. Warner has been a relatively significant driving force in HDM title availability.

I have a lot of UNI titles but without a doubt the Warner HD DVD titles announced early on (Batman, Matrix etc) sealed the deal. The lack of The Dark Knight on HD DVD (well if nothing changes

) will probably also be the point I consider a dual player regardless of what happens with Uni and Para in 2008.

Whatever happens HD DVD was the right choice for me a little over a year ago when I bought my first movie (and ordered my XE1) and I don't regret it since even now there is nothing on Blu-ray that has prompted me to spend a few hundred quid (not a lot when compared to what I have spent on AV kit overall) on a Blu player to sit on the AV rack

chriswatts · 13-01-2008, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomen Luni

Why "should" they look at it as a console and not an HDM player? It does a very good job as an HDM player. (A better job than it does as a games console, right now.) It's also more futureproof and cheaper than alternative BD players.

Well obviously everybody has their own tastes when it comes to games consoles and you said it's doing a very good job as an HDM player (A better job than it does as a games console, right now) so if someone didn't think it did a good job as a games console why pay all that money to get HD on what they would consider a poor games console? Even then it might be consider best just to get a cheap standalone and upgrade next year?

Jumbo_Holden · 13-01-2008, 18:20

As mentioned in my other thread. I've drawn up a long term plan for myself so that when I do get a Blu-Ray player in a few years time. I shall also keep a DVD Recorder/Player in the setup as well. To cover all future playback issues. (I may actully buy a couple of players to put away in case they keep breaking) but no rush to do that yet.

13-01-2008, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriswatts

Well obviously everybody has their own tastes when it comes to games consoles and you said it's doing a very good job as an HDM player (A better job than it does as a games console, right now) so if someone didn't think it did a good job as a games console why pay all that money to get HD on what they would consider a poor games console?

Because at the time of purchase, it was still a better and cheaper BD player than the alternatives, and it's also a general media player? One could look at it that way and consider the gaming aspect of it a bonus. (Though I still hold out hope that the JRPG studios won't disappoint me, I knew I was in for a long wait when I bought the machine. Heck, I didn't buy a PS2 until 2004.) The reality is that the PS3 is a general-purpose entertainment system. It's a misnomer simply to class it as a "games console".

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Even then it might be consider best just to get a cheap standalone and upgrade next year?

In order to answer that question, I'd simply suggest that you take a look at the prices of dedicated BD players and compare them with that of the PS3.

11-01-2008, 23:18	#1
Jumbo_Holden Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Telford, Shropshire Posts: 3,362	Will Blu-Ray players be able to play DVD-R, DVD+R ?? OK Assuming that Blu-Ray will win and ultimately replace DVD. My question would be do you think Blu-Ray players will be able to playback DVD-R / DVD+R disks OK? I ask because I have various stuff on recordable DVD formats that I transfered over from old VHS tapes and it's important to me. So I want to feel there still going to be compatible to playback in say 10-12 years time. Before you say it. Yes VHS quality is going to look like s**t on a HD-TV setup. It's footage that's really really really important to me regardless of quality I want to keep.

11-01-2008, 23:37	#2
Jarrak Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ilkeston Posts: 18,075	There is still a question mark over the format war but I doubt Blu-ray will replace DVD so I don't think you will have any issues with your existing recordings. That said most HD players support DVDr/rw to the point that there are few that go so far as to define DVD-R and DVD+R, it's a given that drives handle both. Either way by the time you could even consider dumping DVD totally just copy the DVD via a Blu-ray PC burner, £20 bare drive for a PC or equivalent

12-01-2008, 13:15	#3
JBlink Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 2,926	The other way to go is to buy a couple of cheap DVD players and put them away in a cupboard somewhere. Then if all else fails you can drag one out and watch / copy from there. No need to rush though!

12-01-2008, 13:44	#4
Apollo 1875 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Moon Base Alpha Posts: 386	Keep your current set-up and add a Blu-ray player when you're ready. No need to replace.

12-01-2008, 15:58	#5
wicket Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NE England Posts: 3,096	My PS3 plays that type of dvd fine.

12-01-2008, 17:33	#6
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by wicket My PS3 plays that type of dvd fine. If you've checked out this I posted in another thread, I think that's probably the best option at the moment. You'd at least hope they would be able to play DVD-R DVD+R but if some won't be able to even play the latest blu-ray disks what hope is there! Most stores states the spec of equipment so it's probably best to carefully read it.

13-01-2008, 15:35	#7
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts If you've checked out this I posted in another thread, I think that's probably the best option at the moment. You'd at least hope they would be able to play DVD-R DVD+R but if some won't be able to even play the latest blu-ray disks what hope is there! Most stores states the spec of equipment so it's probably best to carefully read it. Now you're letting your bitterness really show, Chris! Stop spreading dis-information. Existing Blu Ray machines will play all Blu Ray disks. They just won't be able to access the new interactive and web bonus features on new disks. Blu Ray is backwards compatible. I make my own DVDs from my holiday camcorder footage and they play just fine on the PS3. There's no reason to suppose BD machines to be any any worse or better at playing recordable DVDs than existing DVD players.

13-01-2008, 15:39	#8
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Quote: Originally Posted by Jarrak >snip< Either way by the time you could even consider dumping DVD totally just copy the DVD via a Blu-ray PC burner, £20 bare drive for a PC or equivalent I think you mean £200! At Christmas I bought the LG Super Multi Blue GGW-H20L to use in my PC for £185. It's an (internally fitted) Blu Ray writer drive for a PC with the ability to read HD-DVD.

13-01-2008, 16:05	#9
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by GDK Now you're letting your bitterness really show, Chris! Stop spreading dis-information. Existing Blu Ray machines will play all Blu Ray disks. They just won't be able to access the new interactive and web bonus features on new disks. The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems. The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens!

13-01-2008, 16:16	#10
Jarrak Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ilkeston Posts: 18,075	Quote: Originally Posted by GDK I think you mean £200! At Christmas I bought the LG Super Multi Blue GGW-H20L to use in my PC for £185. It's an (internally fitted) Blu Ray writer drive for a PC with the ability to read HD-DVD. Nope, I meant by the time DVD was not an option then a blu-ray recorder drive for the PC would be £20

13-01-2008, 16:19	#11
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Quote: Originally Posted by Jarrak Nope, I meant by the time DVD was not an option then a blu-ray recorder drive for the PC would be £20 OK! Misunderstood!

13-01-2008, 16:24	#12
Nomen Luni Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems. The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens! It might at that: there is a fair chance that the format war between HD DVD and Blu-ray will be largely settled by then, too. FWIW, my PS3 plays DVD+Rs, as did my old DVD recorder. I'd be surprised if future BD players didn't.

13-01-2008, 16:30	#13
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts The only people on here spreading dis-information is the blu-ray fanboys who come on here and say HD DVD is 100% dead. Since they had to get Blu-ray out early to compete with HD DVD the original 1.0 profile had to change and you can't really say that it won't again after 2.0. Then again I can't say 100% that there will be future problems. The thing is we are still in the early implementor stage and it's still possible that anything could happen in the next month. What I'm suguesting is instead of choosing between either format it might still be best to wait another twelve months and see what happens! At age 47, I'm no fanboy. To the extent that anyone buying HD-DVD now is investing in a format that has no future beyond 2008, HD-DVD is dead. With HD-DVD, what you see now is, give or take, what you'll see forever. My interest is to help people avoid buying kit that has no future. An analogy: It was many years after VHS won that war that Sony finally stopped making Betamax machines - but there were no pre-recorded movies to speak of very quickly. Pre-recorded material matters much more to this market than it did video tape, since most people only used tape for off-air timeshift recording. In this market, studio support counts, and HD-DVD, with WB defection, has lost. That was a tipping point and the other studios will follow suit. My concern now is whether Blu Ray will ultimately replace DVD. I do have my doubts about that. There's still a strong chance it will wind up like LD did in the US - seen as an upmarket niche product, and never replace DVD.

13-01-2008, 16:51	#14
Nomen Luni Posts: n/a	It's not just WB. A number of minor studios that were previously HD DVD exclusive have started releasing content on Blu-ray, and one that was previously neutral (Constantin) is dropping HD DVD support. That's an indication of a trend. While I would not declare HD DVD "dead" just yet, with four out of six major studios supporting Blu-ray exclusively or imminently switching to Blu-ray exclusivity, with 2:1 sales in favour of BD in the USA, 3:1 in Europe and 10:1 in Japan, it's fair to say that its future is looking increasingly bleak.

13-01-2008, 17:07	#15
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Exactly my point. WB decision was a tipping point. Minor studios are already following suit. It can only be a matter of (the right amount of face-saving) time before Paramount and Universal publicly announce BD support.

13-01-2008, 17:13	#16
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by GDK My interest is to help people avoid buying kit that has no future. If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end. Your the biggest f***ing fanboy on this forum 47 or not! Quote: My concern now is whether Blu Ray will ultimately replace DVD. I do have my doubts about that. There's still a strong chance it will wind up like LD did in the US - seen as an upmarket niche product, and never replace DVD. Only a fanboy at this stage would be even considering Blu Ray replacing DVD. There's far more things down the line before that happens, a lot more people have to purchase HD sets, the Freeview switch over has to have come and gone then and only then perhaps that question might be considered!

13-01-2008, 17:32	#17
Nomen Luni Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end. What do you tell them if they insist that they don't want to wait?

13-01-2008, 17:39	#18
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by Nomen Luni What do you tell them if they insist that they don't want to wait? You pay your money you take your chance! Blu-ray seems like 90% probable but until they stop producing the last HD DVD drive there's always the very slim possibility.

13-01-2008, 17:43	#19
GDK Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wigan Posts: 4,892	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts If that was your interest you'd be suguesting people wait it out and see the conclusion of the war to the end. Your the biggest f**ing fanboy on this forum 47 or not! Only a fanboy at this stage would be even considering Blu Ray replacing DVD. There's far more things down the line before that happens, a lot more people have to purchase HD sets, the Freeview switch over has to have come and gone then and only then perhaps that question might be considered! Stop the fanboy comments or I will withdraw from this conversation. I don't like your insults or manner. Try to be constructive? Of course, that's a long term thing, which is why I suggested it might not* happen. If you're interested in future-proofing a HD on disk purchase, the PS3 is the only way to go.

13-01-2008, 17:50	#20
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by GDK Stop the fanboy comments or I will withdraw from this conversation. I don't like your insults or manner. Try to be constructive? Of course, that's a long term thing, which is why I suggested it might not happen. If you're interested in future-proofing a HD on disk purchase, the PS3 is the only way to go. Now your just taking the p**s I hope your not suguesting someone goes out and buy's a PS3 just for HD! I won't say what I think of the PS3 but really if someone is looking for a games console they should really be looking at it as a console not a HD player. It's just a added bonus that it plays HD.

13-01-2008, 17:54	#21
Nomen Luni Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts You pay your money you take your chance! Blu-ray seems like 90% probable but until they stop producing the last HD DVD drive there's always the very slim possibility. Well, I'd say the writing ought to be on the wall rather sooner than that. It'll be interesting to see what happens come June when Warner HD DVDs become scarce. Warner has been a relatively significant driving force in HDM title availability. I'd say that while it might not be to everyone's taste, the best option if you really want HDM right now is a PS3. Of course, it's almost always best to wait if you don't want it right now: after all, prices of CE equipment don't generally go up. Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts Now your just taking the p**s I hope your not suguesting someone goes out and buy's a PS3 just for HD! I won't say what I think of the PS3 but really if someone is looking for a games console they should really be looking at it as a console not a HD player. It's just a added bonus that it plays HD. Why "should" they look at it as a console and not an HDM player? It does a very good job as an HDM player. (A better job than it does as a games console, right now.) It's also more futureproof and cheaper than alternative BD players.

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Will Blu-Ray players be able to play DVD-R, DVD+R ??

13-01-2008, 18:05	#22
Jarrak Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ilkeston Posts: 18,075	Quote: Originally Posted by Nomen Luni Well, I'd say the writing ought to be on the wall rather sooner than that. It'll be interesting to see what happens come June when Warner HD DVDs become scarce. Warner has been a relatively significant driving force in HDM title availability. I have a lot of UNI titles but without a doubt the Warner HD DVD titles announced early on (Batman, Matrix etc) sealed the deal. The lack of The Dark Knight on HD DVD (well if nothing changes ) will probably also be the point I consider a dual player regardless of what happens with Uni and Para in 2008. Whatever happens HD DVD was the right choice for me a little over a year ago when I bought my first movie (and ordered my XE1) and I don't regret it since even now there is nothing on Blu-ray that has prompted me to spend a few hundred quid (not a lot when compared to what I have spent on AV kit overall) on a Blu player to sit on the AV rack

13-01-2008, 18:12	#23
chriswatts Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 537	Quote: Originally Posted by Nomen Luni Why "should" they look at it as a console and not an HDM player? It does a very good job as an HDM player. (A better job than it does as a games console, right now.) It's also more futureproof and cheaper than alternative BD players. Well obviously everybody has their own tastes when it comes to games consoles and you said it's doing a very good job as an HDM player (A better job than it does as a games console, right now) so if someone didn't think it did a good job as a games console why pay all that money to get HD on what they would consider a poor games console? Even then it might be consider best just to get a cheap standalone and upgrade next year?

13-01-2008, 18:20	#24
Jumbo_Holden Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Telford, Shropshire Posts: 3,362	As mentioned in my other thread. I've drawn up a long term plan for myself so that when I do get a Blu-Ray player in a few years time. I shall also keep a DVD Recorder/Player in the setup as well. To cover all future playback issues. (I may actully buy a couple of players to put away in case they keep breaking) but no rush to do that yet.

13-01-2008, 18:21	#25
Nomen Luni Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by chriswatts Well obviously everybody has their own tastes when it comes to games consoles and you said it's doing a very good job as an HDM player (A better job than it does as a games console, right now) so if someone didn't think it did a good job as a games console why pay all that money to get HD on what they would consider a poor games console? Because at the time of purchase, it was still a better and cheaper BD player than the alternatives, and it's also a general media player? One could look at it that way and consider the gaming aspect of it a bonus. (Though I still hold out hope that the JRPG studios won't disappoint me, I knew I was in for a long wait when I bought the machine. Heck, I didn't buy a PS2 until 2004.) The reality is that the PS3 is a general-purpose entertainment system. It's a misnomer simply to class it as a "games console". Quote: Even then it might be consider best just to get a cheap standalone and upgrade next year? In order to answer that question, I'd simply suggest that you take a look at the prices of dedicated BD players and compare them with that of the PS3.