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tiger2000
07-09-2015
Get yer ticket for Mars!

http://mars.nasa.gov/participate/sen...-name/insight/
Rich Tea.
07-09-2015
Originally Posted by tiger2000:
“Get yer ticket for Mars!

http://mars.nasa.gov/participate/sen...-name/insight/”

Just done mine!

First noticed one of these on William Shatner's twitter a couple of weeks back and wondered what the heck he was on about with a picture of a ticket to Mars for next March!

For some reason it printed without my name though.
Eddie Badger
09-09-2015
Clearest image yet of the bright spots on Ceres https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/cer...ing-new-detail
Eddie Badger
11-09-2015
Latest images from Pluto http://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-plut...-s-complicated
Keyser_Soze1
11-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“Latest images from Pluto http://www.nasa.gov/feature/new-plut...-s-complicated”

Yes I saw this - absolutely incredible images from the Kuiper Belt.
Eddie Badger
17-09-2015
Foggy haze on Pluto http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34285426
This humble little dwarf planet is going to be keeping astronomers busy for a long time.
Keyser_Soze1
17-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“Foggy haze on Pluto http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34285426
This humble little dwarf planet is going to be keeping astronomers busy for a long time.”

Indeed.

This is a story on Pluto from a few days ago.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ures-on-pluto/

Here is a nice recent article on Enceladus - I really think that if there is life elsewhere in the solar system it is going to be on one of the oceanic moons.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...restrial-life/
Eddie Badger
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Indeed.

This is a story on Pluto from a few days ago.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....ures-on-pluto/

Here is a nice recent article on Enceladus - I really think that if there is life elsewhere in the solar system it is going to be on one of the oceanic moons.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...restrial-life/”

Thanks for those links. Amazing stuff!
Eadfrith
18-09-2015
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/

http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/...?page=20150917
Keyser_Soze1
19-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“Thanks for those links. Amazing stuff!”

You are welcome.

Some beautiful images here from the 2015 Insight Astronomy Photographer of the Year competition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34256496
Keyser_Soze1
25-09-2015
The Plutonian system is the gift that keeps on giving - some truly astonishing new high resolution images of the dwarf planet.

New Horizons has been a real triumph of scientific discovery.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....-res-closeups/

http://www.nasa.gov/feature/perplexi...m-new-horizons
Eddie Badger
25-09-2015
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“The Plutonian system is the gift that keeps on giving - some truly astonishing new high resolution images of the dwarf planet.

New Horizons has been a real triumph of scientific discovery.

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic....-res-closeups/

http://www.nasa.gov/feature/perplexi...m-new-horizons”

Amazing. And this is only the start of the data coming from Pluto. I think we've got a lot more surprises in store.
Eddie Badger
26-09-2015
Pluto's been hogging the limelight recently but now it's Mars' turn
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/n...mystery-solved
atg
26-09-2015
Intriguing. I wonder if they've found a fossil or something. That will be 4pm in the UK.
Eddie Badger
26-09-2015
Originally Posted by atg:
“Intriguing. I wonder if they've found a fossil or something. That will be 4pm in the UK.”

I've a feeling it's going to be water related. Either that or Curiosity's been clamped
Rich Tea.
27-09-2015
The Daily Mirror seems to think that the Mars announcement on Monday could be the BIG one about life in the form of microbes. No chance!

Meanwhile back here on Earth there will be a decent supermoon lunar eclipse to view from the UK through the night in the early hours of Monday, 28th September from not long after midnight and the skies across Britain look favourable.
d'@ve
27-09-2015
Daily Mirror are bonkers (like all the tabloids).

Supermoon preview, one day early, just in case it's cloudy! Pentax K-3 & 300mm+1.4x converter.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/640/2...7a7b9a0c_b.jpg by D'@ve on Flickr
TelevisionUser
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“Pluto's been hogging the limelight recently but now it's Mars' turn
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/n...mystery-solved”

Originally Posted by atg:
“Intriguing. I wonder if they've found a fossil or something. That will be 4pm in the UK.”

Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“I've a feeling it's going to be water related. Either that or Curiosity's been clamped ”

NASA and others have a habit of of big publicity and then big let downs, e.g. all these Earth II reports when the exoplanets concerned aren't anywhere near being exact matches for Earth.

Expect to be let down tomorrow too. That Curiosity rover is not equipped to be able to detect microfossils and the Red Planet has been dead for a very long time:

A 106-centimetre (42-inch) telescope was installed in 1963 funded by NASA and was used to take detailed photographs of the surface of the Moon in preparation for the Apollo missions. In 1965 the astronomers Pierre and Janine Connes were able to formulate a detailed analysis of the composition of the atmospheres on Mars and Venus, based on the infrared spectra gathered from these planets. The results showed atmospheres in chemical equilibrium. This served as a basis for James Lovelock, a scientist working for the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, to predict that those planets had no life - a fact that would be proven and scientifically accepted years after.

And now for some proper astro news & updates:

Officials expect to delay next year’s launch of a European Mars orbiter and lander about two months — from January to March — to remove faulty pressure transducers from the landing craft’s braking system, the European Space Agency announced Friday. The launch includes an orbiter built to study the Martian atmosphere and search for trace gases such as methane, which could be a signature for ongoing biological or geological activity on Mars. A 600-kilogram (1,322-pound) stationary lander will accompany the Trace Gas Orbiter to Mars, aiming to complete Europe’s first successful touchdown on the red planet.

India's first-ever Mars probe is now one year into its historic mission, and it's still going strong. The Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) spacecraft, also known as Mangalyaan, arrived at the Red Planet on the night of Sept. 23, 2014 (Sept. 24 GMT and Indian Standard Time), just two days after NASA's Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution probe (MAVEN) reached Mars orbit.

A rover and landing platform developed as a backup for China’s Chang’e 3 Moon mission will be repurposed to attempt the first touchdown on the lunar far side by the end of the decade, Chinese officials said. The Chang’e 4 landing probe will carry more science payloads than the Chang’e 3 mission, which touched down in the Moon’s Mare Imbrium region in December 2013, according to a Sept. 8 report by China’s state-run Xinhua news agency.

The NASA Cassini spacecraft first observed a jet of water vapour spraying from the southern pole of the small moon Enceladus — hinting at a large body of water beneath the ice — back in 2005. But how big is that body of water, and how does it not freeze over with such cold surface temperatures? Now, NASA has the answers, and Johanna Wagstaffe has the details.

There may be fewer pairs of supermassive black holes orbiting each other at the cores of giant galaxies than previously thought, according to a new study. When two massive galaxies harbouring supermassive black holes collide, their black holes ultimately combine — a process that could be the strongest source of elusive gravitational waves, still yet to be directly detected.

Geologists said Thursday they are bewildered by images from NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft baring unseen landscapes on Pluto with unexpected “snakeskin” textures, colorful chasms routing through ancient landforms, and vivid new views of apparent glacial flows. One close-up of a set of aligned ridges near Pluto’s day-night terminator, which was at sunset when New Horizons encountered Pluto, has scientists puzzled.
Eddie Badger
27-09-2015
Quote:
“NASA and others have a habit of of big publicity and then big let downs, e.g. all these Earth II reports when the exoplanets concerned aren't anywhere near being exact matches for Earth.”

Yes, they don't seem to realise that ordinary people aren't as excited about the things that drive scientists wild. What's major news to a geologist might be a bit "meh" to Joe public, especially after the media have hyped something big happening.

I think the most likely news tomorrow will be about water on Mars. Either more than first realised or it exists in liquid form.
TelevisionUser
27-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“Yes, they don't seem to realise that ordinary people aren't as excited about the things that drive scientists wild. What's major news to a geologist might be a bit "meh" to Joe public, especially after the media have hyped something big happening.

I think the most likely news tomorrow will be about water on Mars. Either more than first realised or it exists in liquid form.”

Yes, perhaps it's a dried up saline lake bed or perhaps it's some organic molecules but whatever it is my money's on it not being earth shattering.
Eddie Badger
28-09-2015
The Guardian reckons it could be water related http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...er-speculation

The rest of the media seems to be convinced it's Martians
TelevisionUser
28-09-2015
I am completely underwhelmed by this un-new news: http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/28/94...iscovery-proof

It's been pretty darn obvious from the Mariner 9 orbiter images (1972) onwards that liquid water has flowed at some point in Mars' history as we can see here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wa...w=1024&bih=659

In particular, the pictures here http://pages.uoregon.edu/jimbrau/Bra...gure_10_09.jpg show channels and semi-lemniscate (that's tear-shaped in English) islands that can only have been created by fluid water and not winds or the ghosts of a long departed Martian civilisation. Here's a relevant paper: http://link.springer.com/referencewo...9_547-1#page-1 (click on Look Inside on the right hand side)
Eddie Badger
28-09-2015
If NASA keep on hyping stories like this, when they do have something exciting no one will be paying attention.
Keyser_Soze1
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie Badger:
“If NASA keep on hyping stories like this, when they do have something exciting no one will be paying attention.”

Exactly.

Fly through a nebula instead.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150...of-a-dead-star

Last week's best space photos from NG.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2...tures-science/
njp
28-09-2015
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“I am completely underwhelmed by this un-new news: http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/28/94...iscovery-proof

It's been pretty darn obvious from the Mariner 9 orbiter images (1972) onwards that liquid water has flowed at some point in Mars' history as we can see here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=wa...w=1024&bih=659

In particular, the pictures here http://pages.uoregon.edu/jimbrau/Bra...gure_10_09.jpg show channels and semi-lemniscate (that's tear-shaped in English) islands that can only have been created by fluid water and not winds or the ghosts of a long departed Martian civilisation. Here's a relevant paper: http://link.springer.com/referencewo...9_547-1#page-1 (click on Look Inside on the right hand side)”

You seem to have missed the point. This is about water flowing on Mars NOW.
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