So first of all people moan that nothing is happening in the house and all the HMs are nicey nicey to each other. Now they're doing some bitching and saying some of what they think, and people still aren't satisfied.

What exactly do you want?

Katie.

I want the nice bitches to beat the nasty bitches...

That's the way to do it! Respect to the man Ray.

For me it is definitely Ray to stay...

Its not their house ....

As for Lisa warning, she mentioned it to Ray ... oh hum and so what

It is Ray and Cameron who are the violent ones - surprisingly Cameron the most dangerous now I reckon.

He said he could kill her with a thumb over her windpipe, was going to punch Jon's throat, he kicked the beanbag and whilst doing so did you see the anger in his face? Then he asked BB for a punch bag

So, the 2 finger killing thing is NOTHING compared to what others have threatened .... Lisa has not threatened them ....

I would of though if I knew HOW they were all bitching behind my back ....

If BB took this seriously, Ray would have been replaced because of his continual rule breaking.

Let's face it folks, BB has two sets of chickens in the house. All Lisa's done is drone on and on about her many "talents" - anyone with a bit of sense would have picked her up on half the things she's said by now and brought her down a peg or two...

Being boastful should not expose someone to this kind of treatment. Lisa's totally over the top and spends 90% of the time talking out of her arse, but the difference with her is that she's not trying to fool anyone about whether or not she wants to win. I'd rather watch people overdoing it than seeing them restrained and looking bloody constipated until they can hide in the diary room and mouth off about the same people they pretend to adore. Everybody seems to be trying their hardest to prove they're in it for the "experience" and to have a laugh, even though they're a load of boring tossers until they have someone to gang up on.

Fact is, she's done nothing to any individual but they're all bloody scared of her. For no major reason other than she's older and came in with a bit of outside "knowledge" (in other words, she knew they were backstabbing lousy ***** before she shook their hands). While we're all rolling our eyes at her "streetwise" boasts, Ray was sitting there like a little boy, as if any minute he might get the dreaded TWO FINGER MANOUVRE!

Anyone who exposes Cameron as the chickenshit big girl's blouse that we all know he is and shows Steph to be a paranoid little troll is solid gold in my book.

Lisa Jeynes. Streetwise tough cookie, makeup expert bar none, classy bird, bit of a looker and master of the pinch of DOOM... we salute you.

I personally don't want bullying and bitching behind someone's back, I want them to confront Lisa with their problems. That would make good entertainment. The same goes for when Jon was in the house. If they have a problem the should confront the person,

So you lot never bitch?

I bitch about people and I know if I was one of the hms, I'd be doing exactly the same. I can't stand people who constantly bull sh&t, it is one of me pet hates, although maybe I would have challenged her on some of her claims before now.

I don't mind in the least that there's bitching going on about Lisa, after all, I think the girls deserved it. What I don't like, is the fact that BB and the producers of the show, are trying to make out that only Steph and Cam have anything to say about her.

Let's get this straight, every single HM left in there's had a dam good bitch about her, but they'll only show on the 10.00pm show what they want the viewers to see, which is totally wrong.

It's wonderful, at last Cameron and Steph are showing themselves for the vindictive people they are. As soon as Ray was told that he would be the only one nominating, they set about drawing all the HM's into their web! Steph told Nush (who she has nominated the last two weeks, and has wanted her to go both times), and Ray, (who she has also nominated, and wants him to go), that she was worried that they had been sucked in by Lisa, a comment that makes people think that they are being stupid, so stupid in their case that they immediately got sucked in by Steph: Steph also told Ray that she thinks that Lisa didn't try to make friends with her and Scott because they can't be manipulated. She even said that 'Scott and I are alike in a lot of different ways'! So maybe that's why she has nominated him almost every week then!
Cameron and Setph suspect that Ray will nominate them this week, and by ensuring that he nominates Lisa too, they both think their is very little chance of them leaving.

I think you're the one who's been 'sucked in', to BB's way of thinking when it comes to their selective editing policy.

Cam, Steph, Scott, Nush and Ray have all had a damn good natter about Lisa, and it's always when she's not been around.

Don't go making out that Cam and Steph are the only 2 that do it!

Steph showed her true colours last night.She is a vindictive,conniving little madam and *not* a particularly nice person,despite all her toothy smiles.You'd be hard pushed to find anyone more devious in the house.

Which of course is completely spot-on... that's why he hope he is brave enough to change the mix and put Scott up... knowing full well that he will survive.

Exactly. It's alright for devil woman to be locked in that exclusive environment with the HM's they despise but I very much doubt that anyone other than Hannibal Lecter would invite her for dinner.

How nasty of them to suspect that she isn't quite the full shilling and exchange instances of why they find her frightening and intimidating. Shame on them!

Lisa is overly aggressive and would quite clearly respond very badly to someone calling her a bulls***er, regardless of how tactfully they put it.

There is simply no point getting into an argument with that cretinous woman - it would be highly emotionally draining, and create a terrible atmosphere in the house. They are all hoping she'll be gone on Friday - and franky so am I.

I have to turn over when she's on the live feed, I can't listen to her constant utter utter crap.

Oh dear - don't ever volunteer to be a witness, that's a blatant misrepresentation of the truth.

He said smilingly in front of a few hundred thousand people:
"If Lisa goes on any more about her breathing - I'd like to put my thumb over her windpipe myself. On, no, I didn't really mean that."

I laughed out loud because I took it in the spirit it was meant. Anyone who took that literally must have a very jaded outlook on life.

Lisa has made herself a target with regards to Steff.
She watched from the outside, observed her living patterns then mimicked her.

Got to the shower befor her.
Played with her cleaning tools.
Copied some of her clothes.

Nush must have thanked god.

Lisa would'nt have been able to mimick Nush. Vunerable, sweet, and nice.

Lisa also has not been very assertive . She has purposely strirred up the group. She has imposed herself with her I and me conversation. She sends messages to individuals via other individuals. The I could kill with two fingers could be viewed as aggressive.


She went into the house to demolish it. Not a nice job. It's harder than she thought it was going to be.

She has played an umpleasant role. The others are revolting.


I support no one.

I didnt see last nights discussions about Lisa as a bitchiong session.

In fact I wou;ld say it was a Lisa gets found out session.They all told eachother what Lisa had said to each of them and after listening to the results I personally would say it is Lisa who has done the bitching as she has contradicted herself on everything she has said and called all the members of the group to eachother.

She deserved the converstaion about her last night and it was self inflicted.

No what amuses me the most is how the Cam fans and Lisa haters are trying to justify the housemates bitching!

Their reasons are so dumb and samey, its almost laughable

Or perhaps had heard Cameron talking about assaulting Jon and therefore any "joke" he makes of a similar nature has a certain edge to it.

And perhaps there are also some people who studiously ignore instances of Cameron's genuine bitching because it doesn't fit with their opinion of him.

Sadly I agree 100%.

Well said Shirl.
If you or I have a problem with someone we go tell our hubby 's,boyfriends,trusted friends.
It vents our frustration without causing confrontation.They were simply doing the same .

This board has become a forum for hypocryites, numbskulls and degerates ......... hey this forum is a mirror the BB house.

Anything else constructive or interesting to post while you're watching BB4 from Munich?

Got to agree here!

Sadly

lala crys yet again again again and again