They're being downright cruel and vindictive here

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Papyrus

07-07-2003

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“Originally posted by magsiesss
If BB took this seriously, Ray would have been replaced because of his continual rule breaking. ”

If this had happened then I may agree but as it hasn't I'm sorry to disagree...

skibo belfast

07-07-2003

I'm not sure whether or not I like Lisa but her talking about self defence is being taken out of context. She was saying that Nush was beautiful and had a big heart but was gullible and would be a target for men and jealous women. She was I think trying to say that she had had to look after herself in the past and learn self defence and that Nush would probably need to as well.
Lisa has seen how Steph has nominated Nush in the past and can be quite controlling - refusing to let Nush put her own sauce on her sandwich for example. Steph is not the cute person she would like people to believe. Imo she is never happier than when she is listening to a bit of malicious gossip, especially when it is the men putting down the other women.
Despite her claiming to like Tania she cackled with glee when Cameron was rubbishing Tania's personality.
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lorry

07-07-2003

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“Originally posted by spearish
Well said Shirl.
If you or I have a problem with someone we go tell our hubby 's, boyfriends,trusted friends.
It vents our frustration without causing confrontation.They were simply doing the same . ”

Abso-blooming-lutely! I think it's mainly a woman thing (similar to when you ask a man a perfectly reasonable question - they call it nagging.....) oops, wait for the fallout!

A man doing the bitching is relatively unusual, one reason why Cam is getting so much stick for it I think.

UKwins

07-07-2003

I think they're all getting a shock when they come out, as to who has voted for them,

I think also that BB just put in folk who want to get famous... whereas the previous series contestants were just sort of "normal" people...

and I also think that the only "normal" person there is Cameron.

as he hasn't got a clue....

Craig
www.UKwins.co.uk

faequeen

07-07-2003

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“Originally posted by ben4321
Or perhaps had heard Cameron talking about assaulting Jon and therefore any "joke" he makes of a similar nature has a certain edge to it.

Making a remark along with others of the same mind during a moment of frustration is not the same as 'talking about assaulting Jon' - that implies that he held a lengthy conversation on actually carrying out the deed - you are also choosing to omit the reason behind the throwaway statement - the sheer frustration felt by all the HM's at being dominated by Jon at every turn.

And perhaps there are also some people who studiously ignore instances of Cameron's genuine bitching because it doesn't fit with their opinion of him.

As I've said before, I am not a Cameron fan so I'm not blind to his negative points which alexg has so eloquently quoted.
Cameron is a bit of a girl's blouse and too rigid in his expectations of people but he is certainly not the monster you like to paint.

Where your case falls to pieces is that it's virtually the same people who were making Ray out to be a potential murderer a few weeks ago. Nush and Steph have also both been portrayed as extremely dangerous people. You just all seem to adopt a target , select a frivolous reason to hate and then run with it until it gets boring.
”

Now are you taking me clubbing Friday or Saturday??

LauraBelle

07-07-2003

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“Originally posted by Schnauzer Bites
I would love to see how you would all act if Lisa made herself at home in your house and started warning you not to mess with her as she is trained to kill.!!!!!!! ”

I'd love it Lisa came to our house for tea

She would know imediately that no-one in our house would
"mess with her"....Because it wouldn't be a game!!!!
I think she's really hilarious in the house

And I hope Ray doesn't put her up for eviction...And as someone else has said here has the courage to put Scott up instead...I really think he'd survive over Cam or Steph.....How I would love to see the back of both of them....Steph has become intensely
disagreeable to me now....Shot herself right in the foot now

spearish

07-07-2003

Quote:
“Originally posted by lorry
Abso-blooming-lutely! I think it's mainly a woman thing (similar to when you ask a man a perfectly reasonable question - they call it nagging.....) oops, wait for the fallout!

A man doing the bitching is relatively unusual, one reason why Cam is getting so much stick for it I think. ”

Oh I think men do it just as much ,only they prefer to call it having an opinion.When they get to the pub or club its all "her indoors" and lets not forget the man who killed his neighbour over the height of a hedge

lorry

07-07-2003

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“Originally posted by spearish
Oh I think men do it just as much ,only they prefer to call it having an opinion.When they get to the pub or club its all "her indoors" and lets not forget the man who killed his neighbour over the height of a hedge ”

Yes, on second thoughts you're right, we all do it in equal quantities.

"Having an opinion" - LOL!

ben4321

07-07-2003

Quote:
“Originally posted by faequeen
Making a remark along with others of the same mind during a moment of frustration is not the same as 'talking about assaulting Jon' - that implies that he held a lengthy conversation on actually carrying out the deed - you are also choosing to omit the reason behind the throwaway statement - the sheer frustration felt by all the HM's at being dominated by Jon at every turn. ”

There is no reason for Cameron's outburst. How exactly were all of them "dominated" by Jon as you so melodramatically put it? Was Jon ever the leader? Were you watching a different programme? Cameron DID talk about assaulting Jon - I'm not implying the conversation was lengthy. The fact is that he made a remark which you cannot pretend didn't happen. That's it.

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“ As I've said before, I am not a Cameron fan so I'm not blind to his negative points which alexg has so eloquently quoted.
Cameron is a bit of a girl's blouse and too rigid in his expectations of people but he is certainly not the monster you like to paint.

Where your case falls to pieces is that it's virtually the same people who were making Ray out to be a potential murderer a few weeks ago. Nush and Steph have also both been portrayed as extremely dangerous people. You just all seem to adopt a target , select a frivolous reason to hate and then run with it until it gets boring.
”

Who is this "all" you're referring to? I have never attempted to portray Cameron as a "monster" or demonise other housemates. I'm afraid that it is *your* arguments that fall to pieces in a mass of generalisations.

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