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Which was the best Big Brother?
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thms
08-07-2003
bb2

bb4

bb1

bb3


TOML
08-07-2003
BB2- This was the best it had brian and that prick paul. Stupid helen, the arguments between amma and stuart which was the second best night in bb history. There was lots of annoying idiots like bubble, narinder, paul and PENNY.

Best housemates-Brian,dean, josh, helen
Worst housemates-Bubble,stuart,amma(Revolting), Paul

BB3- A bitching epidemic everyday started by adele, then there was jade the thicko, alex was great tv , tim (worst housemate in history). The two massive arguments between jade/alex/johnny and kate. Then there was the veruca incedent , remember when jade was crying and adele was gonna chin jade

Best housemates-Alex,jade,kate,sandy,
Worst housemates-Pj,tim,adele,sophie(Just could not hack it),Lee

BB1-Nasty nick getting kicked out was the only good bit. The housemates were ugly freakes. Why did craig win he face does my head in, darren was a gimp and sada why was she picked. Caroline and nicola were disgusting to watch.

Best housemates-Nick,mel,
Worst housemates-Nicola, caroline, Anna, craig, darren, sada

BB4-A copule of interesting people but the rest were laughable

Best housemates-jon,fed,gaetano
Worst housemates-THE REST
ETX
08-07-2003
Has to be 1 as the house mates were not very aware of the extent they were filmed and showed a lot of their real character.That is why every BB after that has become more and more boring as the people who go in there are over aware .
darling
08-07-2003
BB1 and 2 bored me, to be honest, although there was the odd good bit in both of them. Pity I can't say as much for BB4, which is just tiresome.

BB3, on the other hand, was wonderful. If any future BB is half as good I'll be happy.

On the bright side this year though I'm getting a lot of early nights and saving money too!
oldgit
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Spankee
lol, i'd completely forgotten that Amma and Stuart existed! although the majority of BB constestants are forgotten within weeks of the show finishing (except maybe for the winner and runner up). ”

I for one have never forgotten the image of that cheeseball Stuart looking straight into camera and delivering that wink ! (whilst curling with a heavy object) - shudders!!!!!
lulu g
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by jamez
... Will we ever forget Caggy, Nicola, Narinder and Penny?! ... ”

I hope so.
ben4321
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by darling
BB1 and 2 bored me, to be honest, although there was the odd good bit in both of them. Pity I can't say as much for BB4, which is just tiresome.

BB3, on the other hand, was wonderful. If any future BB is half as good I'll be happy.

”

Sorry, but I don't know how anyone can seriously champion BB3 while dissing BB1. BB1 laid all the groundwork for the rest to follow. It set out the stall and developed the format that became so popular. I'm with Calypso and Ludovica on this one.

Every BB since has progressively diluted the original concept of the show.

Some BB fans now enjoy the show in much the same manner as a soap opera while forgetting that's not what the original BB was all about.
charleah
09-07-2003
BB2 was my favourite for the best mix of personalities and all round entertainment (though I couldnt stand Brian and Narinder)

BB1 - I enjoyed but only started watching after the Nasty Nick incident so missed out on a lot.

BB3 - hmmmm. Probably the most annoying bunch of human beings ever ro grace our tv screens. Kate almost won by default by being the least obnoxious person in there and she was pretty crap herself.

BB4 - again hmmm. Really not sure. I've watched it but is it more out of habit than actual enjoyment?
ben4321
09-07-2003
I don't really know about holding up one series of BB as "the best". I happen to believe that each series is distinctive and resonant, with a mix of strengths and weaknesses.

BB1 - The first and arguably the most effective. Fresh, daring, cutting edge TV that achieved the seemingly impossible task of making mundanity utterly compulsive and gripping and for the first time ever, legitimising dislike of real people taking part in a unique experiment. Very much a "cult" programme building an audience largely through word of mouth. We really have Nick Bateman to thank (or blame?) for single-handedly bringing BB out of the periphery and into the mainstream for good. The series now looks very stark and basic, but this allowed the housemates' personalities to really shine through. An excellent mix of housemates - a genuinely varied and balanced ensemble - with only Andrew and possibly Claire coming across as two-dimensional. The editing was not as forcibly directed and if anything came across as very neutral and dispassionate. Some of the tasks - making body sculptures out of wire - were crap though.

BB2 - Nick's influence can definitely be felt in the first "multimedia" BB before outright cynicism took over. A much more "viewer-friendly" series with Brian's comedy antics and Paul and Helen's gentle, developing romance. The series develops from anthropological experiment to embracing soap opera aesthetics. The house looked more stylised and its inhabitants were more photogenic. BB2 retained a serious psychological edge however with signs of poor Penny cracking under the strain while Dean and Elizabeth naturally took very specific "parent" roles in the house dynamic. Another great mix of people - comprising wannabes (Narinder, Brian), people in it for "the experience" (Dean, Elizabeth), people in it for a laugh (Helen, Paul, Bubble) and a couple of unpredictable wild card housemates (Penny, Stuart, Amma). Very happy, warm "feel good" series with a genuine human factor.

BB3 - Tosh basically, which totally turned the concept of BB on its head. The divide may have been a good idea for some - but totally impacted on the original idea of naturally evolving relationships in the house environment, further degrading the series through increased artificiality and contrivance. The bars looked awful too, obscuring most shots and the opened up layout of the house was very hard on the eye. The "staircase back up to the real world" was good though. BB3 lacked any kind of genuine focus - dispensing with tasks and bringing out the booze. Most of the housemates were obvious wannabes seeing BB as the springboard for success and were pretty unlikeable people. With their alcohol-fuelled, overheated antics, Jonny, Jade and co. were like rats in a box gnawing on each other. BB3 lacked the psychological aspects of BB1 and the human elements of BB2. It was cheap, tacky, self-consciously lowbrow, homogeneous TV completely inseparable from most of the other prole fodder that litters the schedules. BB3 has value as a media history document. A sad but solid statement that contemporary TV culture has been utterly dumbed down to the point of being solely driven by market forces.

BB4 - Undeniably the most schizoid BB of the lot and almost a natural end to the "franchise", being something of a compendium of all the different facets of each previous series.
Initially the low-key feel of BB4 was like a breath of fresh air - a much more intelligent and seemingly likeable group of contestants and a generally laidback, chilled ambience to the house. Sadly, the reactionary cry of "BB4 is boring" from BB3 fans has set off a calamitous chain reaction prompting the producers to lose faith in their renewed commitment for a more "back to basics" feel to the show. Hence increasingly bizarre gimmicks are crudely bolted onto an allegedly "dead in the water" series which would have found its niche had they had the balls to leave it to develop of its own accord. These "innovations" - double eviction, pan-continental housemate exchanges and a new housemate brought in for no good reason - ironically do ultimately alienate the fans and bring BB's popularity crashing down. The undeniable saving grace of BB4 is the replay of the "viewer-friendly" BB2 with the rising star of Jon and the psychological fervour of BB1 where masks subtly drop despite the presence of more self-aware, media-savvy contestants. As they become increasingly immersed in their own bubble-like environment, the remaining clique are revealed to be possibly the most banal, conceited and utterly charmless set of housemates ever. And the mask has finally dropped for Endemol and Channel 4 too, irrefutably revealing them to nothing more than cynical, avaricious, bean counting, dodgy sales people flogging a used vehicle, worn out and well past its MOT.

So, to sum up, my preference would be:

BB1
BB2
BB4
BB3
Last edited by ben4321 : 09-07-2003 at 01:26
darling
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by ben4321
Sorry, but I don't know how anyone can seriously champion BB3 while dissing BB1. BB1 laid all the groundwork for the rest to follow. It set out the stall and developed the format that became so popular. I'm with Calypso and Ludovica on this one.
Every BB since has progressively diluted the original concept of the show. Some BB fans now enjoy the show in much the same manner as a soap opera while forgetting that's not what the original BB was all about.
”

I know you think BB1 was loads better than BB3 because you've said so repeatedly. And you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it is your opinion, and not fact, however many times you repeat it. Others, including me, think that BB3 was the best show and the viewing figures and phone votes tend to suggest that we may have a point.

How do I know that you won't agree? I must be psychic!
LindaN
09-07-2003
[SIZE=4]Big B 3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Big B 1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Big B 2[/SIZE]
Big B 4 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

If your order of preference in'nt that , your taste is up your asre
Susann
09-07-2003
BB3- The lovely Alex made BB3 for me, but it was runined slightly by a bit too much booze, too much Jonny and rubbish tasks.
BB1- Best tasks
BB2- Again good tasks
BB4- unfortunely even Jon and Federico had a hard job trying to save this show.

Here's hoping if there is to be a BB5, that Endermol learn from their mistakes. Fat chance of that though.
ben4321
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by darling
I know you think BB1 was loads better than BB3 because you've said so repeatedly. And you're certainly entitled to your opinion. But it is your opinion, and not fact, however many times you repeat it. Others, including me, think that BB3 was the best show and the viewing figures and phone votes tend to suggest that we may have a point.

How do I know that you won't agree? I must be psychic!
”

Perhaps if you actually articulated why you thought BB3 was so great - citing ratings is a very weak argument because it has little to do with the quality of the programme (BB3 may have been watched by millions but then again The Sun is read by millions of idiots) - then I might begin to understand your viewpoint. How about it?
bob.stone
09-07-2003
[Seem to remember giving a similar answer to a similar thread once before - but what the hell]

There's another factor to consider in addition to which one you liked best on the surface - and that's how deeply you were able to participate.

BB1 - NOBODY had broadband or E4 because neither existed for ordinary target consumers. Cacky dialup webfeeds existed (for free) but the incentive to stay connected to see a postage stamp of people playing cards and Giant Jenga, was minimal.

BB2 - speaking personally, I had E4 for this - in fact E4 was launched on the back of this. The biggest surge in digital TV subscriptions the country's ever had bar none. First time I ever had "live feeds" for any show of this sort.

BB3 - collapse of ITV Digital - had already occurred, E4 carried on broadcasting "for free" right up until the day before BB3 started - I remember all those Audition tapes... had broadband though and so access to RealOne but wasn't terrific. But far more websites (Hey DS!) for this one than before.

BB4 - ex-ITV Digital has become Freeview - stil no E4 - and again RealOne. This year I get an awful lot more lockups than I did last year - which I attribute to bandwidth - the C4 site itself is frequently down any time anything of note happens.

So maybe my preference for BB2 coincides with the time I had best access to live feeds? Got to be a factor in some way!

Bob
Papyrus
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by ***Angel***
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Ditto...
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