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Don't vote for Steph, Vote for Cameron
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stupidityno1
08-07-2003
So long Lisa...
SpellChecker
08-07-2003
Endemol must be laughing all the way to the bank.

If you insist on giving your money away (for that is what a vote for Cameron or Steph amounts to), why not make a donation to a charity of your choice? There are plenty of deserving causes.
Friendly Face
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Red stripe
Could someone tell me who Dave Hill is? (I know its Steph ... but the real Dave Hill Cheers
RS
”

If it hasn't been answered - guitarist with Slade
Friendly Face
08-07-2003
I'm not a fan of any of them but I don't like Lisa at all - oh, I think Steph is cute.
jaynej
08-07-2003
http://www.gangsterno1.co.uk/bigbrot...ry.jsp?id=5005

I wonder if they show any of this on the highlights
jamez
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by jaynej
http://www.gangsterno1.co.uk/bigbrot...ry.jsp?id=5005

I wonder if they show any of this on the highlights
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I doubt it very much as Channel 4/Endemol would hate to show 'Funny, Sensitive, Cute' Cameron like this.

Im really confused now, I REALLY want Lisa to stay but who do I vote out? I hate Cameron, but Steph's just as bad.
Ummm...
observer
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Glenghis
THe voting numbers are low, so there is a good chance that a concerted attack on Cam could get him out now.

Those who tell you not to bother may have an agenda to try and encourage you not to vote to get Cam out.
”

I agree Negative voting and low voting turn out, will get Cam out!! It's very doable!! Bye bye Cam!!
observer
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by bbbookboy
look at the msn, freeserve and aol polls - they all have lisa going with a huge majority (75% plus). these polls are usually pretty accurate (to within about 3%). frankly, I think I trust them more than some rambling statements about votes from each supporter base being split... ”

what those polls said during the Fed/Cam/Jon eviction? Wasn't Jon a dead cert to stay?! What happened? Jon came out. Same will happen to Cam this week.
observer
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by hazy4u
the week that tania went, steph had even less votes than nush, and tania went out with 72% of the votes”

There were more people disliking Tania and Nush, does NOT mean that those who voted for them to be out liked Steph. So for example a person who voted for Nush to be out, doesn't necessarily means that this person is a Steph fan.
Glenghis
08-07-2003
Thing is, those of you who read the maths the way I do, and see that it is possible, need to get the word out.

Those who would do it if they believed they could are being disencouraged by all the statements that Lisa is bound to go, and the people who say STeph is more vulnerable are just wrong.

If Cameron doesn't go this week, it's very likely he'll get the 70K. If Steph doesn't go, she'll come fourth in the final week. It's as simple as that.
SpellChecker
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Glenghis
If Cameron doesn't go this week, it's very likely he'll get the 70K. If Steph doesn't go, she'll come fourth in the final week. It's as simple as that. ”

It's 'very likely' that Cameron will win the £70K?! You'd better get your money on fast then, he's currently 4-1 against to win on Betfair (49-1 to be evicted this week).

Save your money until it can make a difference, possibly next week.
Glenghis
08-07-2003
fluff
kimindex
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by observer
I agree Negative voting and low voting turn out, will get Cam out!! It's very doable!! Bye bye Cam!! ”

How do you vote by email. I can't see it on the BB website
Rocky
08-07-2003
I think that a lot of the posts are forgetting one very salient point; that the number of viewers who can't stand Lisa is huge !! For God's sake, even her own mother wants her out !

I understand the thought behind negative voting, but I can't see many people actively trying to keep Lisa in, just so they can spend another boring week looking at her sitting on the sofas on her own, chain-smoking ! The ploy of putting her in to try & stir things up has failed miserably; she has only succeeded in creating resentment against her and, if anything, the rest are closer than ever before.

Cameron has come out of his shell since he came back from Africa, & is even prepared to have an argument with Ray (which is more than Scott ever does). As a result, his popularity is huge (if the ticker on E4 is anything to go by), and to my mind the final 4 will be the two couples; Cameron & Steph, Scott & Nush.

Cameron will win, & he deserves to.
camaj
08-07-2003
Why not wait until next week. Lisa's a dead cert not to win so why not get steph out this week while there's a chance? Steph this week, Liza next and then Cam to win (if you really want).
Mesostim
08-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Rocky
I think that a lot of the posts are forgetting one very salient point; that the number of viewers who can't stand Lisa is huge !! For God's sake, even her own mother wants her out !
”

Hmmm...That mother thing isn't because her mother hates her though is it.....We'll have to wait to see how the polls are before declaring Lisa hated hugely by the viewers....perhaps they hate someone else more.........
cerys
08-07-2003
Much as I'd love to see Cam or Steph disappear this week, I don't think it'll happen. But that's pure selfish of me. Take Lisa away from these self-obsessed, bullying no-marks and let her get home to some lovin' from her man Marcus.

Same goes for Jon and those who say they'd like him back. Do you really imagine Jon would want to return to that seething nest of vipers?
Glenghis
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Rocky
I think that a lot of the posts are forgetting one very salient point; that the number of viewers who can't stand Lisa is huge !! For God's sake, even her own mother wants her out !

.....

Cameron will win, & he deserves to.
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No. The percentages on the text ticker that hate Lisa are huge.

The votes have been down. They were going up by around 250 000 per week until the Jon n Fed eviction (and if you take two thirds of the numbers of votes cast then, the pattern stays the same).

They then fall back two weeks in a row.

How many voted for Gos? under 600 000.

A high percentage of a low number is still a low number.

Furthermore, many people will think Lisa is such a cert to go that they won't bother voting. Possibly (you can't count on it).

But we're looking at a shortfall of maybe 600 000 on what we should be getting this week had the pattern continued. That's equal to the numbers of votes cast last week.

So, even if we do have the high percentages wanting Lisa out, there are a larger number of votes out there to be cast, from those who have stopped voting.

And I can garuantee you that the majority of those votes come from people who would rather Cam wasn't there.

That's why it's possible.

I see that you would rather people didn't realise it was possible, though.
Rocky
08-07-2003
Hmmm...That mother thing isn't because her mother hates her though is it.....We'll have to wait to see how the polls are before declaring Lisa hated hugely by the viewers....perhaps they hate someone else more.........


Perhaps !! But I doubt it !

The only real chance of confrontation is if the housemates interact; Lisa is doing that less & less, so keeping her in another week will just see her withdraw even more. Didn't BBLB devote part of last night's programme to how much time she spends alone ? Who would want to pay good money to vote out Cameron or Steph, just to watch Lisa retreat even further into her shell ? Where is the excitement in that ?

As I said before, the final 4 was decided today by Ray; if people are unhappy, they should vent their anger on Ray next week by voting him out !
Glenghis
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Rocky
The only real chance of confrontation is if the housemates interact; Lisa is doing that less & less, so keeping her in another week will just see her withdraw even more. Didn't BBLB devote part of last night's programme to how much time she spends alone ? Who would want to pay good money to vote out Cameron or Steph, just to watch Lisa retreat even further into her shell ? Where is the excitement in that ? [/b]”

She wasn't interacting much today, and they still managed to be vile to her, or did you not read the link posted earlier on.

Cameron was particularly nasty.

If you keep Lisa in there, the housemates show their true colours.
Rocky
08-07-2003
Glenghis

I'm not trying to hide anything from the voting public. I just think that when push comes to shove, Cameron (and Steph for that matter) will have a large support. I would also suggest that as the tactic of negative voting has already been mentioned on the E4 ticker, their fans may be galvanised into voting to keep their favourites in.

I just think that the number of votes that are currently anti-Lisa is large enough that it would not take many additional votes from Cam & Steph supporters to ensure that Lisa leaves on Friday.

Anyway, if she is continually left out of things as she is at present, she might walk of her own accord !

We can hope !!!
Foureyes
08-07-2003
Dave Hill: -http://www.slade-weerallcrazee.co.uk/photos/dav1_a.jpg

Steph: -http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/i...x250_steph.jpg

The similarity is striking.
Glenghis
08-07-2003
Well, you know, where are those anti Lisa votes coming from?

There are just as many people who find Cameron small minded, hypocritical, manipulative, two faced and deceitful as there are who find Lisa irritating.

There was an example of his behaviour posted on the C4 site today. A link to it was given on this thread, I think. Have you read it?


This is all away from the point of this thread, which is that Cameron is vulnerable to attack. Maybe not. The point is that there are as many people who can't stand the Cam Steph axis as people who can't stand Lisa.

You just have to look at the DS poll to realise that the anti Cam and anti Steph votes combined are a greater percentage than the anti Lisa votes.

If those anti Cam and anti Steph voters combined forces, they could get Cam or Steph out. I suggest Cam, as Steph has a smaller chance of the 70K should she get to the last week.
Rocky
08-07-2003
Funny, I thought that all of the 'Gang of Five' had been bitching about Lisa behind her back, albeit to varying degrees. I don't see Scott, or Ray, or Nush jumping in and trying to put a stop to any backstabbing going on, so that surely makes them as bad as Cameron.

Or is it one rule for him, and another for the rest ?
Glenghis
08-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Rocky
Funny, I thought that all of the 'Gang of Five' had been bitching about Lisa behind her back, albeit to varying degrees. I don't see Scott, or Ray, or Nush jumping in and trying to put a stop to any backstabbing going on, so that surely makes them as bad as Cameron.

Or is it one rule for him, and another for the rest ?
”

Oh, but you answer it yourself: 'To various degrees'

Cameron has been by far the worst in the bullying, along with Steph. Furthermore, Cameron was doing the same stuff with Jon and Steph was doing the stuff with Fed, earlier on.

Both of them have been slyly manipulating their housemates into excluding certain of the HMs since just before the tug of war at the beginning of the second week.

And lastly, the others aren't up along with Lisa. Cam and Steph are.
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