20/1 for Cameron to get evicted.

You know it makes sense.

Vote Cameron out and clean up at the BOOKIES.

I have to say that thought had crossed my mind, it is very tempting.

The thing is we know Cam-moron's brother visits this site, and he will probably spend hundreds to keep cameron in, maybe thats what he did last time too. No wonder he asked for a cut of Cameron's BB winning's if/when he wins.

if you bet against cameron
you must have money to burn

£30 on votes against Cameron.

20/1 to be evicted makes sense if he goes.

Speculate to accumalate.

This is what happened last year with BB3, one of the favourites got knocked out and I believe a few people here cleaned up a nice tidy sum of around £1500+ from betting about £50

Rumours were that it was started by silly odds being offered by some bookmakers.

We can do it again.

You know it makes sense.

Bet Cameronout.

Take all odds available.

Then invest in your phone voting.

£30 equals 120 votes.

Wouldn't it be better for Cam-haters to put money on Cam to win instead? Current odds are around a reasonable 5-1. It'll be a win-win situation either way.

Still trying to work that out.
Cam haters vote Cam to win????????.

The odds of Cameron getting evicted in a 3 horse race are a lot better.

Numb nuts.

We already tried that.... and Channel 4 rigged the voting. If you rang in a million times Cameron would still stay in, it isn't up to us.

Yes.....celebrate if he doesn't...... celebrate if he does - or at least you can cry all the way to the bookies ---->

Can we work this out?

How many non-Cameron fans are on this board?

Bet £30 on Cameron at 20/1 to get evcited out at the bookies.
Vote £30 on Cameron to get evcited by phone voting.

So,....how many non-Cameron fans are there here?.......If we can work this out,..it's possible to guarantee Cameron's eviction.

If we can work out that £30 of phone votes, multiplied by (X) amount of DS non-Cameron fans, can easily get more votes than from previous weeks,.....it would be a simple matter of just going ahead and doing it, and winning £570.....all that's left to do is collect your cash.

BUT........and this is a big but,........it is also a surefire way to find out that the voting is indeed rigged.....Are you prepared to lose £60 just too find out if BB is fixed at the point of voting?

(Read their voting terms and conditions,......they are practically saying they can fix the voting and are not liable)

What I can't work out is why the HM's signed up to a set of rules, when evidently there are no set rules when BB can change any one of them at a whim? (Including the fixing of a vote.)

As far as I am concerned Lisa versus Cameron is the vote that is needed.

This is a vote of the BORE versus the ENTERTAINER.

If eveyone feel the same the betting for Cameron is a huge price.

Forget Steph shes already boring.

Lisa or Cameron.

Remember 6 weeks of boredom and then Lisa arrives and there is entertainment.

You will never get better odds than this believe me.

So can't anybody answer my question?


Does anybody here have a good estimate of how many non-Cameron fans are on this board?

If we know this,...that's the only way to find out what is possible, and what would have to be done.

I don't want to spoil anyones delusions of grandeur but we've already seen how much influence this forum has on the overall voting. None. I wish it were otherwise.

No idea how many non-Cameron fans are here. The opinion polls are already showing Lisa getting over 80% of the vote.

600,000 votes were cast last week. So assuming a similar number of votes are made this week and being kind to Lisa, lets say the 80% poll figure ends up a little lower, the votes could be like this :-

Lisa 66% - 400,000
Cameron 17% - 100,000
Steph 17% - 100,000

That means that 300,000 votes would need to be made to close the gap. If as you said, people spend £30 each on voting Cameron out that would make 120 votes each. There would need to be 2,500 people to do this to make up the difference.

Its not worth it though, giving endemol more money for their handling of BB4?. Let them stew I say.

The question is easily answered if you want to win money.

The more people who are committed to winning money the more people who will vote.

Regardless of the person.

[SIZE=4]THIS IS BUSINESS.[/SIZE]

At 20/1 odds you could clean up by betting say 10k on Cam to get the boot and then perhaps 50k on phone calls to get him evicted (sorry if my maths is wrong here, but the principle is definitely sound). I think there was a suspicion that someone actually managed to pull this off on Alison's eviction last year.

The only problems I could see would be

1. Getting hold of 60k
2. The logistics of making 500k phone calls and thousands of tiny bets on Cam's eviction.

If anyone reckons they can do this then best of luck to you

when you put it like that, it sounds plausible. I dont know why it hasnt been done before, but for the last 2 weeks it would have been profitable (although Tanias eviction would have taken 400,000 votes)

The margin to make it possible might be bigger this week (dont know). Thats the gamble.

Im not meaning to encourage anyone cos the last 2 weeks have been walkovers in the voting (last weeks was closer than I expected). I wont be spending my own money.

What doesn't make sense to me in those voting T&Cs is the reference to "fraudulent mass voting". Especially when Davina actively encourages us to put the phone on redial. How is mass voting "fraudulent"? You're still paying them your 25p each whether you vote once, 30 times, 500000 times.....

You've also got to take into account the Orknids that are in for a share of the winnings from cameron, who will have their phones on redial.

a lot of it depends on if any of them have a fan base. Im not sure if Cam does or not, but Im thinking he does. If he does then the votes cast could be anything from 600,000 to 1 million. If none of them have much support then it could be same as the last 2 weeks or less (as habitual C4 voters get fed up with the show as each week passes)

I know Steph has her supporters here, but I dont think she has much support overall. Im assuming Lisa has zero support (as in supporting her for her positive qualities etc)

Another little flaw in your plan, chaps. Bookies don't take four figure bets on Big Brother. Coral, for instance, have been limiting punters to £1 bets on certain occasions.

You could get more matched on Betfair (and better odds) but not silly amounts.