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My letter to The Sun to support their lisa campaign
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CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by jim3333333333
STILL NO LIFE I SEE? - that enough capital letters? ”

Reported - "This new member has made 4 posts to date - all of them abusive and posted solely to insult other forum members. "
Khayman
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by CameraMan
Reported - Posting solely to abuse another forum member!! ”

You're busy with that button. I got the impression that some abuse was tolerated here, indeed the anti-Cam folk seem to take great delight in it. I see I was wrong and will also use the button more in future.
lobeserve
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by CameraMan
Reported - "This new member has made 4 posts to date - all of them abusive and posted solely to insult other forum members. " ”

keep him I say
mummyhazel
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lobeserve
No, is that our Cameron then? ”

I'm presuming you haven't seen the film "The Wicker Man" (pardon my original misspelling) - it's a cracker!

http://www.sandrew.demon.co.uk/wickerman/index.html

http://www.sandrew.demon.co.uk/wickerman/Shoot2.jpg

Och noooo!
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by jim3333333333
STILL NO LIFE I SEE? - that enough capital letters? ”

What a uniquely amusing individual you are.
***Angel***
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by CameraMan
Reported - Posting solely to abuse another forum member!! ”

Reported - posting solely to repeat himself
mummyhazel
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***
Reported - posting solely to repeat himself ”

Nice one, Angel!
lobeserve
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by mummyhazel
I'm presuming you haven't seen the film "The Wicker Man" (pardon my original misspelling) - it's a cracker!

http://www.sandrew.demon.co.uk/wickerman/index.html

http://www.sandrew.demon.co.uk/wickerman/Shoot2.jpg

Och noooo!
”

I'll check it out after I've written a letter to Steph's company regarding her lack of visual merchandise
CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Khayman
You're busy with that button. I got the impression that some abuse was tolerated here, indeed the anti-Cam folk seem to take great delight in it. I see I was wrong and will also use the button more in future. ”


I've no idea how much is tolerated - Sometimes reported posts are removed, sometimes the poster is warned, maybe they are sometimes banned. All I do is click the button - the mods do the rest.
CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***
Reported - posting solely to repeat himself ”


ROFL!
Winston Smith
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***
Were you really that bored or just trolling ”

No, not bored nor trolling. I realise that some people may find it hard to comprehend my position on this so, for the record, let me clarify...

Whilst not subscribing to a religion, I do feel that when someone professes a faith then they should either stick to it or renounce it as being beyond them or unsupportable. My faith is to believe that people have it within them to be better than they are. We live in a world where personal values are debased and devalued every single day. Cynicism is a powerful, and easy, alternative to idealism yet it is idealism that has improved all of our lives throughout the centuries. Without idealism, angel, women would not have the vote, slavery would still be in force and we would be living under the bootheel of the fascist philosophies of the 1930's.

The ideal of Christianity is very simple...Be good to one another. Unfortunately it is wrapped up in a bunch of superstitious and contradictory instructions which are very easy to ridicule. A Christian who follows their faith as they should is an honourable thing. In fact, anybody who follows a faith in the face of mockery and ridicule is honourable, in my book. Cameron is doing his faith, and himself, an immense disservice and is becoming what he would probably despise if he could only step outside of himself and see it.

Big Brother is watched by millions of people. The example he holds up is, frankly, disgraceful and if I, in my small way, can make a difference and stop those who think that snide and sneaky comments are acceptable from believing it then I feel I will have made the world a slightly better place. I am not on a crusade to conquery world hunger - that is far too big a thing for me to do and there are many others better placed to do it. Cameron, on the other hand, has managed to acquire a small place in the spotlight of public attention. What he says and does are watched an listened to.

I do not feel it is a waste of time. I have devoted a large part of my life to exposing hypocrites whenever I encounter them in the real world. I have alienated myself from family and friends for taking a stand against unnaceptable statements, opinions and positions and I'm not about to stop now.

If you can't understand what I say then I feel sad you have nothing in your life you feel is worth fighting for.

Principles are important. I stand by mine in the face of the laughing crowd. What do you do with yours? I know most people prostitute theirs which is exactly what Cameron is doing now.
mummyhazel
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lobeserve
I'll check it out after I've written a letter to Steph's company regarding her lack of visual merchandise ”

How can you say that?!!!!

http://www.amazingslade.net/daveyob3.jpg

lobeserve
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by mummyhazel
How can you say that?!!!!

http://www.amazingslade.net/daveyob3.jpg

”

***Angel***
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Winston Smith
No, not bored nor trolling. I realise that some people may find it hard to comprehend my position on this so, for the record, let me clarify...

Whilst not subscribing to a religion, I do feel that when someone professes a faith then they should either stick to it or renounce it as being beyond them or unsupportable. My faith is to believe that people have it within them to be better than they are. We live in a world where personal values are debased and devalued every single day. Cynicism is a powerful, and easy, alternative to idealism yet it is idealism that has improved all of our lives throughout the centuries. Without idealism, angel, women would not have the vote, slavery would still be in force and we would be living under the bootheel of the fascist philosophies of the 1930's.

The ideal of Christianity is very simple...Be good to one another. Unfortunately it is wrapped up in a bunch of superstitious and contradictory instructions which are very easy to ridicule. A Christian who follows their faith as they should is an honourable thing. In fact, anybody who follows a faith in the face of mockery and ridicule is honourable, in my book. Cameron is doing his faith, and himself, an immense disservice and is becoming what he would probably despise if he could only step outside of himself and see it.

Big Brother is watched by millions of people. The example he holds up is, frankly, disgraceful and if I, in my small way, can make a difference and stop those who think that snide and sneaky comments are acceptable from believing it then I feel I will have made the world a slightly better place. I am not on a crusade to conquery world hunger - that is far too big a thing for me to do and there are many others better placed to do it. Cameron, on the other hand, has managed to acquire a small place in the spotlight of public attention. What he says and does are watched an listened to.

I do not feel it is a waste of time. I have devoted a large part of my life to exposing hypocrites whenever I encounter them in the real world. I have alienated myself from family and friends for taking a stand against unnaceptable statements, opinions and positions and I'm not about to stop now.

If you can't understand what I say then I feel sad you have nothing in your life you feel is worth fighting for.

Principles are important. I stand by mine in the face of the laughing crowd. What do you do with yours? I know most people prostitute theirs which is exactly what Cameron is doing now.
”



I don't think that writing to his church is right though, to me what you have just done is let the church members know that people who are non religious expect religious people to be robots who can't say the first thing that comes to their head.

Then again i have no religious beliefs at all so it's not my place to assume what he can or can't say/do.

Please bear in mind that he is Human, it's a unique experience for him and he is bound to change as a person during it.
eden2uk
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Trada
Im just giving my views of why people dont like cameron sorry if that upset you geekboy.

god dont people now the sun save lisa thing is nothing about like bb or lisa or anything else it just about money and selling peoples they dont care who goes or stays in this week and that letter will be laught at and thrown into the bin.

it only a game show and some people on here seems to think its life or death and need to live a little.

in the end who cares who wins or loses this lot with all be forgotten in a month or two and that includes geekboy.
”

Trouble is you are so wrong so very wrong. I actually enjoy watching Jon on Ri:SE far more than in the house and he will prove more popular than a man so full of spite and hypocricy. The reason I don't like Cameron is because of his persona and I feel quite let down by him, as I liked him from the first time he walked in until he showed his true pathetic colours.
Boo Pires
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Winston Smith
No, not bored nor trolling. I realise that some people may find it hard to comprehend my position on this so, for the record, let me clarify...

Whilst not subscribing to a religion, I do feel that when someone professes a faith then they should either stick to it or renounce it as being beyond them or unsupportable. My faith is to believe that people have it within them to be better than they are. We live in a world where personal values are debased and devalued every single day. Cynicism is a powerful, and easy, alternative to idealism yet it is idealism that has improved all of our lives throughout the centuries. Without idealism, angel, women would not have the vote, slavery would still be in force and we would be living under the bootheel of the fascist philosophies of the 1930's.

The ideal of Christianity is very simple...Be good to one another. Unfortunately it is wrapped up in a bunch of superstitious and contradictory instructions which are very easy to ridicule. A Christian who follows their faith as they should is an honourable thing. In fact, anybody who follows a faith in the face of mockery and ridicule is honourable, in my book. Cameron is doing his faith, and himself, an immense disservice and is becoming what he would probably despise if he could only step outside of himself and see it.

Big Brother is watched by millions of people. The example he holds up is, frankly, disgraceful and if I, in my small way, can make a difference and stop those who think that snide and sneaky comments are acceptable from believing it then I feel I will have made the world a slightly better place. I am not on a crusade to conquery world hunger - that is far too big a thing for me to do and there are many others better placed to do it. Cameron, on the other hand, has managed to acquire a small place in the spotlight of public attention. What he says and does are watched an listened to.

I do not feel it is a waste of time. I have devoted a large part of my life to exposing hypocrites whenever I encounter them in the real world. I have alienated myself from family and friends for taking a stand against unnaceptable statements, opinions and positions and I'm not about to stop now.

If you can't understand what I say then I feel sad you have nothing in your life you feel is worth fighting for.

Principles are important. I stand by mine in the face of the laughing crowd. What do you do with yours? I know most people prostitute theirs which is exactly what Cameron is doing now.
”

WOAH! I applaud your commitment to outing people you deem as being hypocrites but maybe you might think about taking a step back and really look at Cameron. He hasn't gone into the BB claiming to be the Second Coming, he's a young Christian trying to 'find' himself. It's not that easy. He hasn't gone in there trying to covert the 'heathens' or preach his beliefs at anybody. For the most part he's kept his Christian beliefs to himself.

If you really do feel so strongly about Cameron's 'hypocrasy' maybe you should write a letter to him explaining what it is you are seeing and where you think he has gone wrong rather than his church. Most trainee Christian would welcome constructive criticism in their bid to live a life more Christ-like.
CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***


Please bear in mind that he is Human, it's a unique experience for him and he is bound to change as a person during it.
”

I'm human but I've never threatened to defecate in people's belongings (with or without professing to live by life by asking 'what would jesus do?)
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
Trouble is you are so wrong so very wrong. I actually enjoy watching Jon on Ri:SE far more than in the house and he will prove more popular than a man so full of spite and hypocricy. The reason I don't like Cameron is because of his persona and I feel quite let down by him, as I liked him from the first time he walked in until he showed his true pathetic colours. ”

Agreed. I used to like Cameron up until the third week (the bell-ringing task).
***Angel***
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by CameraMan
I'm human but I've never threatened to defecate in people's belongings (with or without professing to live by life by asking 'what would jesus do?) ”

Oh come on, we all say stupid things it's part of life, I donno how many times i've said to people "shut it or i'll come over there and slap you" it's not meant as a threat its just one of those things you say in jest

And no i'm not some nutcase i am a happy mother of two children who knows that the world and everything in it aint perfect and never will be. There is far worse in the world to be dealt with than a young man saying he would shit in someones shoes.
mummyhazel
09-07-2003
I thought Cameroon was a bit pious & self-righteous with his rant about women drinking - and his attitude during the spin the bottle game. I'd personally find him a crushing bore - and also a bit frightening as he can be quite creepy when he then seems to change personality and get all touchy-feely (when it's him in control).

Never mind the shoe-shitting (and shampoo pissing or egg throwing or physical violence) suggestions.
CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***
Oh come on, we all say stupid things it's part of life...

There is far worse in the world to be dealt with than a young man saying he would shit in someones shoes.
”


A 32 year old man saying he would shit and p*ss in someone's shoes on national TV whilst professing to live a life by the christian code may be part of your life but I find it hypocritical!
***Angel***
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by mummyhazel
I thought Cameroon was a bit pious & self-righteous with his rant about women drinking - and his attitude during the spin the bottle game. I'd personally find him a crushing bore - and also a bit frightening as he can be quite creepy when he then seems to change personality and get all touchy-feely (when it's him in control).
”

At last someone with good reasons not to like him

I like Cameron but those reasons that you typed there i can understand for your dislike of him, they are similar to the reasons that i 'm not keen on Ray (too much drink, too unstable etc). Being a non drinker i find it easier to relate to Cameron than i do to Ray.


the shoes thing i just find a silly reason to hate someone though, but thats just my opinion
***Angel***
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by CameraMan
A 32 year old man saying he would shit and p*ss in someone's shoes on national TV whilst professing to live a life by the christian code may be part of your life but I find it hypocritical! ”

No not part of my life as i already stated i have no religious beliefs. But i don't find it a good enough reason to hate someone, maybe i'm just more tolerant of different personalitys than you.
tamalyn2000
09-07-2003
a poll from thr official board

Cameron................I


Results (14 votes counted so far):

21% Love him to bits (hope he wins)

0% Like Him

7% He's ok

21% Dislike him

50% Hate him (hope he's out asap)

thought i had better get a copy quick, before the cam loving admins get rid of it!!!
CameraMan
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ***Angel***
No not part of my life as i already stated i have no religious beliefs. But i don't find it a good enough reason to hate someone, maybe i'm just more tolerant of different personalitys than you. ”

Probably true. I do choose whom I associate with, with care.
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