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5th Horseman
09-07-2003
Pity we never got 24/7 coverage of Jesus (Endemol would be pround of the editing the desciples did).

Being in that house would definately try the patience of a saint.

Still Cam is a two faced hypocrite (most religious types are!?!)

bigmadmental
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Casino Moon
We are the ones who decide the winner , by voting, that's who we are to judge. The judges of a 70k game show, and Cameron has put himself up to be judged by the nation, in pursuit of that £70,000. Neither he nor his fans can start crying about that now ( I know you are not doing that Nathalie), he did not shrink from the spotlight, none of them did. ”


Put surely "judging" who should win 70,000 and if they did right or wrong goes against how a Christian should act, hence there is some form of judgement there on thy neighbour. To be perfect would be Christ or God like, which I'm sure no one on this planet is, ergo everyone in some respect is a hypocrite. Anyhoo, I'm off my high horse now and off to break everyone one of the 10 commandments.

By the why to be ridiculed for being a Christian is one of the struggles you have to face and stand up too, its not an easy ride life, as Cameron will find out when all the people who seem to hate him on these boards, meet him. God help him is all I can say, its only a game show after all.
fox1lady
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Hamlet77
Can I point something out.

1) An enormous amount of criticism of Cameron is coming from people with access to E4, live streaming etc. They then claim that C4 are editing the highlights programmes to not show Cams vile, disgusting and unchristian actions.

2) The diary room footage is not shown on these E4/live streaming versions.

3) To use an analogy from the church, the diary room is supposed to be some sort of confessional perhaps Cam is using the DR in that manner.

Can some people please please try to consider the position all HMs are in.

They find Rays drunken antics amusing, at least one physical assault and many many abuses of rules.

Lisa is seen as being a great addition, why? she talks about herself and then abuses other HMs not physically, but by the use of phrases like 'I could kill you with 2 fingers' that is blatent verbal intimidation, she gets sympathy because she is being cut off by other HMs. One expample in the pub Nush and Steph left todo something and next we get her bleating "Leave me all alone then" had she not thought of getting off her backside and joining the main house. She starts to get sympathy for avoiding her one and only weekly task, if Cameron had suffered some medical complaint I can hear the large print screeches of forum members as he tried to scupper the house's chances of passing the task, and when, as with happened with Lisa, Cameron was let off the task, some would take it as an obvious sign that BB4 was rigged for Cam to win.

Nush gets 'flirty' and 'physical' with male HMs. If Cameron had done that it would be suggested as being pervy and lecherous.

Some people do seem to see the best of some and worst of others.
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fox1lady
09-07-2003
To be fair all the HMs get stick from us on these forums, that's what they are for I think. However, Cameron perhaps gets more because he is the one who at the beginning had been quite judgemental of some of the others. He found fault with Tania, Jon, Fed, Ray and Nush just because they did or said things that he claimed to disapprove of. He went into the diary room and more or less accused Jon of trying to influence his votes, then he nominated Jon because he didn't see why Jon needed to go into the diary room so often (something that he does all the time these days). He didn't choose Nush to go into the reward room then told her that he thought she could handle it because she would find things to occupy her... then he nominates her because he felt that she would be the first to be bored if she was left in the house. These things along with his sometimes aggressive comments which he often manages to disguise as jesting, is just some of the reasons why Cameron gets picked on... apart from the ones that you yourself has mentioned... flirting with both Nush and Steph, his instant dislike of Lisa... and his fake Mr Nice Guy image and holier than thou ways.
Casino Moon
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by fox1lady
He didn't choose Nush to go into the reward room then told her that he thought she could handle it because she would find things to occupy her... then he nominates her because he felt that she would be the first to be bored if she was left in the house. ”

Yes that was a classic . I seem to recall he was cultivating a very close touchy feely relationship with Nush in the house at the time, then nominating her in the diary room. He also went into melodramatic shock on the plasma screen relay from Africa, when Steph squeaked at him that all 3 girls were nominated. His eyes nearly bugged out of his head . Don't know why considering he nominated Nush and Tania himself. Oh well.
lorry
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Casino Moon
Yes that was a classic . I seem to recall he was cultivating a very close touchy feely relationship with Nush in the house at the time, then nominating her in the diary room. He also went into melodramatic shock on the plasma screen relay from Africa, when Steph squeaked at him that all 3 girls were nominated. His eyes nearly bugged out of his head . Don't know why considering he nominated Nush and Tania himself. Oh well. ”

Yes, I have to admit that incident puzzled me too.
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