Rubbish !!! - night after night in the Garden (with Shameron present) were far longer than a night session in the pub!

Some of us are here til the start of the next day and see all on E4 !

I am not reknown for sitting on the fence on such issues...
...but here I remain!

Loving your work guys.

Why is it just about every thread ends up changing to an Anti Cameron one

Whether Lisa's a pathological liar or not (and, to be fair, the evidence seems to point to her being one), she's still a hero in my book. She's made BB4 watchable. Now if one of the producers had told me any one person could do that a couple of weeks ago, I'd have accused them of telling tall tales.

Wonder why it ends up with Cam.
He must be the most hated guy in Britain, he should become a politician. He will be good at it no doubt.

...I wonder whether this thread will reach any distinct conclusion...

Vote Labour out, and Vote for Cam.
HAHAHA

So what are you suggesting here? if those thoughts about Lisa had not been on everyone's mind anyway, how could the booze have made any difference apart from making them a bit less guarded and more honest in voicing those thoughts?


By the way, just to set the record straight, some of us who don't find Cameron that bad watch E4 too !!!!!!!!!!!!

Simple, just like the Spencer fans last year when he left and Alex stayed, the Jon fans don't like the fact Cameron stayed and Jon went, no matter how they try to dress it up with indignation about editing and Endomol

Did not know you had TV's in Somerset, my mistake.

yes honey, both kinds

I think it's actually more in Cameron's favour that unlike the others he doesn't need a stomach full of alcohol to say what he thinks.

It would be applaudable if he actually were to say what he thinks to the HM's face but they are ALL guilty of being two-faced.

From the E4 I've been watching I'd say it's more Steph starting the bitching than Cameron. Almost everytime Lisa speaks to Steph the poisonous dwarf runs out to tell Cameron all about it

Oooh love being called honey.

Good post.
I wonder, IF what Lisa's brother says is true, WHY the psycologists didn't pick it up?
If they did, was it right to put her into the house?
BB intervened with Jade & she underwent a miraculous character conversion after seeing the psycologist.
They know Lisa is being bullied & know she is unhappy as she's said so in the diary room, So WHY haven't they helped Lisa?
My conclusion is that they are happy with the situation as it brings in more viewers & votes.
And yes, I agree, she has made BB4 more watchable.

Going by recent Channel 4 editing, Lisa has been anything but watchable. Even on E4, she hardly says a word to the other housemates and vice versa. I don't enjoy her DR tirades and her sitting in prolonged silences hasn't made the show any better in my opinion. What has is the bitching and sniping by the other housemates (and I suspect that would have happened regardless of who was brought in the house) but even that's been on the decline.

Lisa certainly has done nothing to make me like her, and I don't even live with her! The other HMs do and while it is unpleasant for Lisa, I can't say that in the same position as Cameron and co., with nothing else to talk about and having to put up with Lisa and her obnoxious behaviour, that I wouldn't be having a pop at her also.

If Lisa does have a fault, it is probably in her Jeynes.

ME ME ME approach, thats Lisa isn't it.

I can't start new threads as I have just registered =/

Anyway, my question is this: assuming Lisa decided to voluntarily leave the house prior to eviction night, does that mean the eviction goes ahead with the remaining two -- Cameron and Steph, her staunchest critics? If a pre-eviction departure did bring about this particular situation, Lisa should consider it just to spite them both, esp. as she is all but guaranteed to be evicted anyway. In its own way, it would be victory from the jaws of defeat..

hahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha........... I second that

Much as I hate to do this, I have to say just one thing in Lisa's defence.

When she told them she got the scar on her shoulder from a shark bite, she did tell them almost straight away that it had been a joke.

As it is obvious from the polls that she will be leaving our screens on Friday, I am hoping that she realises this and launches a vicious verbal attack on the housemates before they all go back to being lovey dovey with each other after her departure.

Have to agree with you... It is positively Evil to sell derogatory stories about anyone to the papers except in a case where a criminal act is involved

So let me get this right, It's wrong of Lisa's brother to say nasty things about her?
So that means that it's OK for Cameron's brother to say nice things about him.

I thought the point of this thread was to have a go a Lisa.

I mean she has bitched about all the others behind their backs
she has been nasty to them
she shared her ciggies
she wanted to go into the house at 6 weeks
she was probably told by BB to be as quiet as a mouse
she knew BB4 was a HUGE success
she knew the viewers just love boredom

no - this thread was started to belittle and bully somebody, just really following the lead of the housemates in the house, that's what sheep do - isn't it?

Something just struck me looking at the pic of lisa that they used as her official BB mugshot, She looks like a dopey Afghan hound. This has nothing to do with anything but it just struck me while i'm reading this thread and thinking about her. Anyone else think the same?

Bullying again. not really, just passing comment. No different to all the ray hating threads or the Tania hating threads really.

This thread wasn't started to belittle or bully anyone. I just posted the article, like I also posted a newsletter on BB Africa at the same time.
How you all chose to respond to it is your doing, not mine. That you all choose to follow like sheep & bully Cameron fans is also not my doing, it's yours.
I thought at least someone would comment on WHY the psycologists didn't pick up on her 'compulsive lying' & why they let her into the house if what her brother said is true.