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Ray as thick as Sh*t
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realitymad
09-07-2003
How pathetic ws his attempt. He was rereading the rules after it had finished. He didnt have a clue what he was doing.
Papyrus
09-07-2003
...I wouldn't say that Ray was thick; more that he hasn't got requisitory rhetorical ability to push his notions forward. His lack of refinement upon articulation lets him down in the definition dept...

Quoted from elsewhere; now you tell me does that sound like someone stupid..?

Maybe a tad slow then.

Jafa
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by realitymad
How pathetic ws his attempt. He was rereading the rules after it had finished. He didnt have a clue what he was doing. ”


What would you have done differently then smart arse?
Bro
09-07-2003
Put half on red and half on black, then whatever happens you win 50%.
KriZ
09-07-2003
Well he could of put £20 on RED
and £20 on black

then had a flutter with the rest!!

that way he would have got "Somthing"!!!
Pitman
09-07-2003
what a complete piece of F*kwittery from the bald goat,he should have stacked all his chips on the 8 black
klunk
09-07-2003
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“Put half on red and half on black, then whatever happens you win 50”

...and lose 50% at the same time. There's no point in betting on both of them, whatever you win on one, you lose on the other.
GatheringDust
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Pitman
what a complete piece of F*kwittery from the bald goat,he should have stacked all his chips on the 8 black ”

lmao!!
Very true *sagely nod*
Bro
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by klunk
...and lose 50% at the same time. There's no point in betting on both of them, whatever you win on one, you lose on the other. ”

but at least you know you've got that 50% better than nothing.
pmc
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Jafa
What would you have done differently then smart arse? ”

Assuming that he had to bet it all, and normal rules apply:

£1 on 0
£30 split odds/evens (i.e. on the dividing line, which is allowed, but obviously pretty rare in a casino)
£20 on 1-12

if zero comes up then £36 shopping budget
if 1-12 comes up then £30 + £60 shopping budget
if 13-36 then £30 shopping budget.

Basically a 1 in 3 chance of getting a great shopping budget, and a worst case of £30.

He should at least have put the £10 number bets on 4 numbers each (which would have given him £92.50 if they'd come up). He would have won £360 from a single number, but this would have been capped, so he's reducing his effective odds by doing this.
sanddancer
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Pitman
what a complete piece of F*kwittery from the bald goat,he should have stacked all his chips on the 8 black ”

Lisa should've told him to do that - she's psychic apparently
klunk
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Bro
but at least you know you've got that 50% better than nothing. ”

It would be simpler to just keep the money in your pocket, though. And you could lose all of it if the ball landed on zero, so you're actually better off not betting at all.
brian's eyebrow
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by klunk
...and lose 50% at the same time. There's no point in betting on both of them, whatever you win on one, you lose on the other. ”

Of course, but your winning bet wins back what you lose on your other bet!

If Ray had bet £25 on Red and £25 on Black, he's have walked away with a £50. What he started with.

Yes I know, he didn't have £5 chips but he could have put £20 on red and black and "gambled" the remaining £11.

It ain't rocket science.
klunk
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by brian's eyebrow
Of course, but your winning bet wins back what you lose on your other bet!

If Ray had bet £25 on Red and £25 on Black, he's have walked away with a £50. What he started with.

Yes I know, he didn't have £5 chips but he could have put £20 on red and black and "gambled" the remaining £11.

It ain't rocket science.
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So what exactly is the point of betting £20 on Red and £20 on Black? At best, you just get your £40 back, if it lands on zero you lose £40.
Hamlet77
09-07-2003
No eez not e is ded fit
Papyrus
09-07-2003
...has this thread reached a conclusion yet?

Elderflower
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by KriZ
Well he could of put £20 on RED
and £20 on black

then had a flutter with the rest!!

that way he would have got "Somthing"!!!
”

Steady now, this is just what Cameron suggested he do...until Scott stepped in and said how useless an idea that was and went on to tell Ray just how to spread his bets to get the best return, oops looks like Scotty was not too hotty after all .
Schnauzer Bites
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by klunk
So what exactly is the point of betting £20 on Red and £20 on Black? At best, you just get your £40 back, if it lands on zero you lose £40. ”

Exactly, it's taking betting advice from amateurs that leads to fat bookmakers and casino owners.

He should have just kept the £51 as the whole basis of the game is that the odds are against you winning, no skill, no expert solution, just the odds being stacked against you regardless of what you do.
dougaz
09-07-2003
And what Ray did, despite being told about the 300 cap, made the odds even worse than a normal casino.

The conclusion is Ray is thick because he blew almost the entire shopping budget on a game he was too stupid to understand.
Jason C
09-07-2003
Would BB have given them £1800-odd to spend had he put all his chips on 8 Black and won?
brian's eyebrow
09-07-2003
Please note that my statement was on the basis that Ray HAD TO bet. It was a way to minimise his losses (the other £10 could have been placed on odd or evens at 2/1 odds). It was not meant as a get-rich quick scheme. It was just to show that a simpleton could have got away not losing all the money if they HAD to bet.

Obviously though this was too complex a solution for some forum members

PS ( I'd have put £1 on 0- dunno whatwould have happened if it came up 00 though Or did he play on a standard roulette wheel or an american one) ????
dougaz
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Jason C
Would BB have given them £1800-odd to spend had he put all his chips on 8 Black and won? ”

Come on catch up

The £300 cap would have meant £1500 of the £1800 went down the drain, he wasn't quite that stupid, but well on the way.
dougaz
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by brian's eyebrow
Obviously though this was too complex a solution for some forum members
”

Or perhaps its more obvious that some forum members find it to complex to read the published rules of a task before they comment on it.
Schnauzer Bites
09-07-2003
The decision on whether to bet, how much to bet and how to bet were all entirely up to Ray. He could have just said no, and that would have been the sensible, but boring option.
Hamlet77
09-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Elderflower
Steady now, this is just what Cameron suggested he do...until Scott stepped in and said how useless an idea that was and went on to tell Ray just how to spread his bets to get the best return, oops looks like Scotty was not too hotty after all . ”

and god forbid that anyone would recognise that Cam came up with a reasonable idea.
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