Very interesting article on Teletext P.135

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eden2uk

09-07-2003

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“Originally posted by Hamlet77
So being middle class is now another justification for non entry into the BB house

Stuck up media types again making our decisions. Maybe, just maybe if TV production execs. left the Groucho bar for ten minutes and actually thought about the general public, who pay for the White Russians in the Met Bar, we wouldn't have had the almighty b***s up we have had this year.

Don't get me wrong I agree that BB4 has been boring, but critcising peoples backgrounds and upbringing is pretty rich. Tania Baker, wowee, really has the reading of the pulse of the nation, what the h**l has she ever done in the real world? Her little world is like an edition of Hello! Her opinion is probably the last person in the world I wish to hear........... Oh and A A Gill as well...................... and Jeremy Clarkson.......................... probably Gary Bushell................ and John Pilger (should I stop now?) ”

I don't think they mean leave the middle class out, just put a mix of both middle and working class backgrounds in like they did with the previous three. This year they were quite samey and only produced a few interesting charactures that found it hard to intergrate with the majority and unable to let the HMs to bounce off eachother. If you take last year for eg the feud between Jonny (working class) & Alex (middleclass) and the interesting mix of HMs that split into two groups created some of the best entertainment last year. However this year there has been no sides taken apart from the initial boy/girl split which has enabled them to gang up on to one paticular victim to oust them Jon & Lisa as prime examples.

gazza71

09-07-2003

I think there's more to it than that. Certainly after last years excess, this one was always going to be a little less over the top. The media turned people into hate figures, and the public went along with it...

Jade was lucky in the end, but still got the sort of flack that I know I wouldn't want to ever come out of that house to... Tim has found it so bad since he's had to move South Africa.

A few days before Big Brother started, channel 5 did a show where a lot of the ex contestants spoke of the problems they'd been through since... The only one who looked genuinely happy about it all was Helen.

I don't think these people are any more boring than any of the others... What they are, is all too aware of the price you may end up paying by going on a show like this, where a lot of the media and public lose all responsibility with the things they say.

People want romance? Scott and Nush seem to be getting on very well... But for a lot of people it's just an act designed to keep them in (I don't believe that btw)

People want them to speak their minds... Anouska did it... Jon did it... Sissy did it... Fed did it... They were all hated for it, by a lot of people anyway.

It seems the key to survival in and out of that house is to remain in the background... Can you really blame people for holding themselves back when people don't seem to be able to look at anything on this show in a rational way? Or at least with an open mind.

The producers/editors are to blame as well... They're not interested in portraying these people as humans... They're just simple characters in a tacky show. Where's the revealing night time conversations that give a little insight as to why certain people are the way they are? There haven't been many, but when there have been, they haven't shown them.

Papyrus

09-07-2003

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“Originally posted by En Ami
...I may be a lone voice but I'm quite enjoying this series of Big Brother. I'm not going to deny that I thought it was dull as dishwater early on, particularly after the eviction of Anouska, and I was convinced the show was going to be a wash-out after Fed was evicted (I didn't mind Jon going as I didn't particularly like him anyway)... ”

No, I can quite identify with some of that.

This isn't aimed at you btw En Ami...
If you are watching BB 24/7, or thereabouts, then it could get a tad too much and very, very boooooring. There is a high chance you will be left less than satisfied.

I remember watching BB3 and they were bored off their nuts. The same in BB2 and exactly the same with BB1!

It's our tolerance of the boredom thereshold that has gravitated. We're more prepared to admit that the show is indeed now BORING. That's ever-more the reality of this situation. It's always had a large boring element, that's part of the balance of the nature of the show and we readily and easily admit to that!

Conversely, there will be always be some who are finding it all absolutely riveting...

WE ARE NOW MORE PREPARED TO ADMIT TO THE BORING 'ELEMENT'!

And upon this I agree.

:yawn:

Papyrus

09-07-2003

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“Originally posted by gazza71
I think there's more to it than that. Certainly after last years excess, this one was always going to be a little less over the top. The media turned people into hate figures, and the public went along with it...

Jade was lucky in the end, but still got the sort of flack that I know I wouldn't want to ever come out of that house to... Tim has found it so bad since he's had to move South Africa.

A few days before Big Brother started, channel 5 did a show where a lot of the ex contestants spoke of the problems they'd been through since... The only one who looked genuinely happy about it all was Helen.

I don't think these people are any more boring than any of the others... What they are, is all too aware of the price you may end up paying by going on a show like this, where a lot of the media and public lose all responsibility with the things they say.

People want romance? Scott and Nush seem to be getting on very well... But for a lot of people it's just an act designed to keep them in (I don't believe that btw)

People want them to speak their minds... Anouska did it... Jon did it... Sissy did it... Fed did it... They were all hated for it, by a lot of people anyway.

It seems the key to survival in and out of that house is to remain in the background... Can you really blame people for holding themselves back when people don't seem to be able to look at anything on this show in a rational way? Or at least with an open mind.

The producers/editors are to blame as well... They're not interested in portraying these people as humans... They're just simple characters in a tacky show. Where's the revealing night time conversations that give a little insight as to why certain people are the way they are? There haven't been many, but when there have been, they haven't shown them. ”

There is not anything that I could disagree with here...
...and I wouldn't dare try!

It's a good perspective...

Eurostar

09-07-2003

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“Originally posted by Papyrus
Not that I thought you would think that... ”

Of course not Papyrus

Probably 'complete disaster' is too strong,but for C4's flagship programme,BB4 has to be considered a cock up.They had 11 months to prepare,and to get the key element wrong - the mix of HM's - was quite incompetent on their behalf.

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