I've actually quite enjoyed trying to defend cam, its made me think about why I do like him - and I think I just do!
he isn't perfect, but none of them are and I enjoy watching him grow and develop. I don't enjoy watching Steph clean, Scott sit on the fence and look pretty, or Gos sleep! Its voyeuristic but that's entertainment baby!

[quote]Originally posted by Liz
[b]I am a bit bewildered about the level of hatred geared towards Cameron. Although I am not a fan, I cant really see what is so hateable about him.

Camaron is not hated. It is only the few on the forum that make it look that way.
His only crime was that he beat Jon !

Thats my opinion and the opinion of a lot of others.

Nobody is perfect - but Cameron strikes me as having more to complain about than most.

Again, this is all the pro-Cameron people can really come up with. Very ignorant.

But true.

In my recollection, Claire was quite boastful, self-obsessed etc... but nowhere near like Lisa.

I didn't read all the above statements and in no way intended to quote you out of perspective. I don't think I did. It merely represented a thought of mine.

I love Claire btw and was happy for her and Tom. Ah... sweet!

Ah - but Claire was very young and pretty if I remember - Lisa's age hasn't helped her. Not that she could do much about that, but maybe it was a bit naive of her to think she could integrate easily at this stage.

[quote]Originally posted by lyn
[b]
ROFL! He's a violent @rsehole with a sh*t fetish - that's why I don't like him.

I suggest you try actually reading some of the threads and taking on board what is being written rather than generalising.

Claire and Lisa both entered BB later and were in the 'honeymoon' phase of the experience while everyone else was long since tired of it. Inherently, it does cause conflicts.

Even Sophies treatment was mild to Lisa's as there was only Adele, Jade and Tim that attacked Sophie and she had her allies in Jonny, Kate and Alex.

He beat Jon.
That is the subtext of all the other remarks in this post.
Oh, and he dared to mention religion.
tut tut. Naughty boy.
he's not the only person in the house to give a chinese burn. And anyway, I saw no permanent scars. Most friends play fight much worse than that.

That is not true. Try reading the posts again, you will find plenty of reasonable arguments. I have never even mentioned Jon in this context, even though I was also a fan of his. I just think everyone has their own personality traits, good and bad - but then we went over all this a few days ago ad nauseum - it feels like a waste of energy sometimes.

Well done Rich_T, KriZ, ben4321, sympathy, scata and zazza (plus others) who have comprehensively put the case for why many viewers detest Cameron ......

He is a sham of a man .....

Vote Cameron OUT !

time for the ritual cam pic posting
http://www.filefactory.net/death.jpg
rejoice

Now you are 'scattering' the rumour.

It made me LOL simply envisaging the truth in such a motion...

"many viewers"
ahem, yes.
many posters on this board I think would be more accurate.
The rise poll is usually pretty spot on and that didn't look like he was, what was it, detested.
I am neither especially pro cameron or pro jon but even I can see the tunnel vision a few of you have.

lyn was hardly generalising as you call it (sorry if I'm stepping on toes here lyn). IMO she is quite right, she has the same thoughts as a lot of other Cameron supporters.

No doubt it is all Cameron's fault that Ray lost the task today.

I am certainly not mad, nor blind though I do purport to wearing contact lenses

It would be an ill world if we all had the same mindset.

Oh and for the record I threatened to 'kill' my hubby on the phone today, please don't call 999.

lu

wearing thin more like

lu

If you insist it's true then prove it, if you can't/won't prove it, then stop insisting it's true, as you would make no sense.

Well stated lorry. I too am a fan of Jon, but not to the extent I'm going to pack my back and march down to Endemol's headquarters and raise merry hell.

lu

I don't need to read anything.
The public vote say's it all.
What I have read is a load of untrue rubbish.
What ever you say, it won't bring Jon back you know!

On the phone now. , can't let you get away with that.

No. Citing Jon's eviction is a common standby of some very lazy and frankly obtuse pro-Cameron fans (not including yourself) to counter the weight of the anti-Cameron sentiments. We continue to respond to Cameron's behaviour *now*, not to what happened nearly three weeks ago.

But I could say the same about the "hypocrisy" argument from many anti-Cam posters. It gets a bit tiring on both sides I suppose. I still find him (and Lisa actually) INTERESTING viewing, whatever their faults.

Late edit: Actually, because of their faults.