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Why is Cameron hated?
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lulu
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Susann
On the phone now. , can't let you get away with that. ”

LOL I might let him off if he buys me dinner tomorrow night to make up for the 'reason I want to kill him'

lu
PS: he likes Cam too
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lyn
I don't need to read anything.
The public vote say's it all.
What I have read is a load of untrue rubbish.
What ever you say, it won't bring Jon back you know!
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Sad.

Oh yes, the wise, perceptive public. The majority of whom only watch the edited Channel 4 broadcasts and are spoon-fed, Sun-reading, text-voting plebs anyway.

Just to totally scupper your little theory Lyn - I don't want Jon to come back. I wouldn't wish having to live with the remaining housemates on anyone - not even Jade Goody.
Bro
09-07-2003
Do any Cameron fans actually care what the group of posters, who are so unshakably biased against Cameron and do not represent the viewers as a whole, think?
I think it is important we leave them to air their bitterness as surpressing it could only result in dreadful consequences, whether it is simply stale anger at Jon being evicted or a prejudice towards Christians who are anything less than perfect (some of the posts about religion have shown shocking ignorance I must say).

Again, I would like to reconfirm that I am pretty much indifferent to Cameron and Jon, and the rest of the house at this stage, in order to prevent any troll remarks that follow (my feelings can no longer take it).
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Bro
Do any Cameron fans actually care what the group of posters, who are so unshakably biased against Cameron and do not represent the viewers as a whole, think?
I think it is important we leave them to air their bitterness as surpressing it could only result in dreadful consequences, whether it is simply stale anger at Jon being evicted or a prejudice towards Christians who are anything less than perfect (some of the posts about religion have shown shocking ignorance I must say).

Again, I would like to reconfirm that I am pretty much indifferent to Cameron and Jon, and the rest of the house at this stage, in order to prevent any troll remarks that follow (my feelings can no longer take it).
”

Yes. Anyone who dislikes Cameron is absolutely a bitter, angry, atheist with their own agenda. It isn't at all possible that they consider Cameron's behaviour to be thoroughly unprepossessing based on objective observation. Not at all.
lulu
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Bro
Do any Cameron fans actually care what the group of posters, who are so unshakably biased against Cameron and do not represent the viewers as a whole, think?
I think it is important we leave them to air their bitterness as surpressing it could only result in dreadful consequences, whether it is simply stale anger at Jon being evicted or a prejudice towards Christians who are anything less than perfect (some of the posts about religion have shown shocking ignorance I must say).

Again, I would like to reconfirm that I am pretty much indifferent to Cameron and Jon, and the rest of the house at this stage, in order to prevent any troll remarks that follow (my feelings can no longer take it).
”

What a sensible post Bro! And for the record NO I don't give a toss what 'anyone' thinks here or otherwise, I've got a perfectly good brain and can think for myself. Half the time the posts on here (re Cam most certainly) sink to level of 'ad hominem' , extremely tiresome.

lu
matt.b
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lulu
wearing thin more like

lu
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nope a cameron hate thread has to have it it became a ritual u see
Bro
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ben4321
Yes. Anyone who dislikes Cameron is absolutely a bitter, angry, atheist with their own agenda. It isn't at all possible that they consider Cameron's behaviour to be thoroughly unprepossessing based on objective observation. Not at all. ”

Hmm. That's the way most anti-Cameron posts here seem to swing though isn't it.
I don't think any posts I've read have been completely objective.
Rant would be the word.
eden2uk
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lorry
But I could say the same about the "hypocrisy" argument from many anti-Cam posters. It gets a bit tiring on both sides I suppose. I still find him (and Lisa actually) INTERESTING viewing, whatever their faults.

Late edit: Actually, because of their faults.
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i must admit Cams reaction to Lisa is entertaining, but it will cease once Lisa has gone and he has no one to pick on unless he decides to find another victim. If he does my bet is it will be nush because she's the weakest link and I wonder if he'll be able to influence Scott and Ray (pair of tossers) like he could with Lisa, Jon, and Tanya.
lorry
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
i must admit Cams reaction to Lisa is entertaining, but it will cease once Lisa has gone and he has no one to pick on unless he decides to find another victim. If he does my bet is it will be nush because she's the weakest link and I wonder if he'll be able to influence Scott and Ray (pair of tossers) like he could with Lisa, Jon, and Tanya. ”

For goodness sake, now you're bashing him for something he hasn't even done yet! lol - he really cannot win.
eden2uk
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lulu
What a sensible post Bro! And for the record NO I don't give a toss what 'anyone' thinks here or otherwise, I've got a perfectly good brain and can think for myself. Half the time the posts on here (re Cam most certainly) sink to level of 'ad hominem' , extremely tiresome.

lu
”

Then why bother entering these threads. I don't realy bother entering the pro Cam threads because I'm not pro Cam.
sympathy
09-07-2003
Well see Cam fans whine about the anti Cam fans not liking him, but when you state clearly why you don't like the guy, we just get stupid comments like Jon fans are bitter. I personally outlined my reasons for not liking him and those are based on things he has said and done. Not one person has taken me up on what I've said because they know it's true.
lorry
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
Then why bother entering these threads. I don't realy bother entering the pro Cam threads because I'm not pro Cam. ”

Read the first post again - I think you'll find this started out as a fairly pro-Cam thread?
Susann
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lorry
he really cannot win. ”

Oh but he can. Endermol/C4 have decreed it, didn't you know.
Glenghis
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by sebtacular
I love how when Cameron happened to be the only housemate who bothered to go to the Diar Room and ended up going to Africa, it was accused of being a fix in numerous threads on this forum.. ”

Actually, Cam wasn't the only housemate who bothered to go to the diary room.

He was the second housemate to go to the diary room after the 'individual task' had been announced. Tania went before him, to get told some nonsense about sanitary bins.
lyn
09-07-2003
I can understand some of these people who don't like Cameron . Fair enough. But to say you hate someone for being on a game show .Please.
I can't see what Cameron as done that is so bad. To be treated so badly by these verbal bullies.
Please don't go on about he is the bully.
You are the bullies no better than any other person who would persecute another human being for there own pleasure.
And of course , he can't answer back.
Bro
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
Then why bother entering these threads. I don't realy bother entering the pro Cam threads because I'm not pro Cam. ”

Perhaps that is a bad idea, filling yourself with only one side of the argument.

You may outline these reasons for not liking him, but te strength of your feelings may come from bitterness. Just as if it had been another member of the house who had beaten Jon I'm sure you could find many reasons for not liking them.

This board was so anti-jon, then swinging to anti-Cam I can see it must have something to do with it.
But the difference in opinion polls between this site and others shows that it is not a true representation of everybody else.

Again, I am indifferent to both characters blah blah....
matt.b
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Bro
Do any Cameron fans actually care what the group of posters, who are so unshakably biased against Cameron and do not represent the viewers as a whole, think?
I think it is important we leave them to air their bitterness as surpressing it could only result in dreadful consequences, whether it is simply stale anger at Jon being evicted or a prejudice towards Christians who are anything less than perfect (some of the posts about religion have shown shocking ignorance I must say).
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[COLOR=red]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[/COLOR] NOBODY FIGHTS HERE AGAINST CHRISTIANITY. [COLOR=red]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[/COLOR]

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What a lame argument.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cam is the target

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;coz he is individually creepy
eden2uk
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lorry
For goodness sake, now you're bashing him for something he hasn't even done yet! lol - he really cannot win. ”

I'm not bashing him for something he hasn't done and I'm only sumising something that may happen because he's done it before. Besides he started on nush before Lisa came along and before he could nominate her. If you look at last weeks nominations for Nush they were all more or less the same reasons something that Cam had took a lead complaining about. Ray is quite easy to turn as on a few occasions his noms have been the same people for the same reason as Cam on the same week. steph is one of his followers and he is down one since Gos has gone.
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lyn
I don't need to read anything.”

You're psychic, are you?
Susann
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by sympathy
Well see Cam fans whine about the anti Cam fans not liking him, but when you state clearly why you don't like the guy, we just get stupid comments like Jon fans are bitter. I personally outlined my reasons for not liking him and those are based on things he has said and done. Not one person has taken me up on what I've said because they know it's true. ”

I too have pulled Cameron fans up on this. we are not all bitter because Cameron beat Jon in the vote. You only have to read some of the FM's old threads to see their dislike of Cameron even long before the eviction, but it is too hard for some Cameron fans to grasp this. Luckily there are also some very reasonable cameron fans on here who do accept this. But some Cameron fans can't or won't let go of this theory as it's the only one they have to fight back with.
lorry
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by sympathy
Well see Cam fans whine about the anti Cam fans not liking him, but when you state clearly why you don't like the guy, we just get stupid comments like Jon fans are bitter. I personally outlined my reasons for not liking him and those are based on things he has said and done. Not one person has taken me up on what I've said because they know it's true. ”

There were many intelligent statements from Cam supporters a couple of days ago here http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...threadid=73130

A minority of Cam-haters are extremely aggressive and tunnel-visioned, however, which is why we keep getting asked the same old questions. Why you think we should have to keep justifying ourselves is beyond me.
Bro
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
[COLOR=red]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[/COLOR] NOBODY FIGHTS HERE AGAINST CHRISTIANITY. [COLOR=red]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[/COLOR]

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;What a lame argument.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Cam is the target

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;coz he is individually creepy
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Yes but how many cameron bashing threads are there which don't mention Christianity and how he is not adhering to the bible, which of course is what every other christian in the world does 24/7
ben4321
09-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lyn
I can understand some of these people who don't like Cameron . Fair enough. But to say you hate someone for being on a game show .Please.
I can't see what Cameron as done that is so bad. To be treated so badly by these verbal bullies.
Please don't go on about he is the bully.
You are the bullies no better than any other person who would persecute another human being for there own pleasure.
And of course , he can't answer back.
”

matt.b
09-07-2003
there are no Cam fanS, there is only one ... a very busy one, his mum, which is also his aunti
chandman
09-07-2003
When he told Scott or Fed to piss in Jon's shower gel enough said
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