Nokia 6600 - LOL

jammers · 09-07-2003, 21:43

As usual Nokia's technology sucks. Not only will the 6600 have their half baked bluetooth system but it will not come with an MP3 player - you will have to download third party software but it will also ONLY be able to play in MONO - not Stereo. LOL

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB...ic.php?t=14682

Jonathan David · 09-07-2003, 22:54

My 7650 doesn't play mp3 files as standard and do you know why? Cause its not a 'play' phone. The reason why the 6600 will not play mp3 files in stereo is because its marketed at the high end-user not the little man in the street.

Besides if Nokia 'sucks', why are they still one of the most popular makes in this country?

I have used other makes of phones, but only Nokia seems capable of making a phone that I find usable.

09-07-2003, 23:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan David
My 7650 doesn't play mp3 files as standard and do you know why? Cause its not a 'play' phone. The reason why the 6600 will not play mp3 files in stereo is because its marketed at the high end-user not the little man in the street.

Besides if Nokia 'sucks', why are they still one of the most popular makes in this country?

I have used other makes of phones, but only Nokia seems capable of making a phone that I find usable.

And my favourite forum member award goes to...

You tell him!!

jammers · 10-07-2003, 18:32

The P800 is a business phone and canplay stereo Mp3s - it just seems very baisc not to include soemthing like that - most popular doesnt always mean best.

10-07-2003, 23:20

But this phone will be about £200 cheaper, have a 65,000 colour display, and it's about the same size as a 7250.

Quackers · 11-07-2003, 10:24

Its an ace phone. Its a "smartphone" not a PDA!

The T610 must be a very shit phone as well, as that does come with an MP3 Player program, you have to get third party software.

and many other phones.......

jammers · 11-07-2003, 17:54

Quote:

Originally posted by ripsaw82
Its an ace phone. Its a "smartphone" not a PDA!

The T610 must be a very shit phone as well, as that does come with an MP3 Player program, you have to get third party software.

and many other phones.......

As usual you miss the point - the 6600 is designed to compete with Orange Smartphone thing, P800 etc which all have the decent MP3 player - T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it, althought the Bluetooth MP3 handsfree which is coming soon will kick ass.

Jonathan David · 11-07-2003, 20:31

So let me get this right, you originaly post

Quote:

As usual Nokia's technology sucks. Not only will the 6600 have their half baked bluetooth system but it will not come with an MP3 player

Then you come on here later on in the conversation and say

Quote:

T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it

As you said in your first post,

Quote:

as usual Sony Ericsson's technology sucks. The T610i doesn't come with an mp3 player

Bit of advice Jammers, better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt

gk141054 · 11-07-2003, 20:47

Sorry to jump in here and spoil your fun, but I think you will find that the "nokia's technology sucks" comment was refering to their "half baked bluetooth" with which I am inclined to agree with.

SE T610's bluetooth on the other hand is wicked so i think your comment about being thought a fool may come into play for your post

Also, I am inclined to agree that Nokia do, or at least ARE BEGINNING TO suck.

They have rested on their laurels and said "yeah we are the best so everyone else will have to do what we do"

Meantime, SE have snook up on the inside, formed a wicked alliance, brought out the P800 and the T610, brought them out packed with features and at sensible prices that people won't be able to resist.

You only need to look at Nokia's complete disregard for Bluettoth which led to myself giving up on Nokia and switching to SE. They were the best, but not anymoe, hence them now attempting to catch up with SE's bluetooth bonanza!!!

jammers · 12-07-2003, 00:12

Thank you GK for reading my post unlike the previous poster who didnt. Bluetooth by Nokia is poor and the 6600, a smartphone, has poor features compared with other smartphones, who it is designed to compete with.

John, whos the fool?

Luke567 · 12-07-2003, 01:31

still you jammers, still you...

jammers · 12-07-2003, 09:05

No, the Nokia has poor features compared to its competitors. Nokia is the fool as eventually people who think their 3330's etc are good phones will realise.

12-07-2003, 12:22

Quote:

Originally posted by jammers
No, the Nokia has poor features compared to its competitors. Nokia is the fool as eventually people who think their 3330's etc are good phones will realise.

The 3330 is/was a good phone, becuase not everyone wants an expensive phone. It was best in it's league at the time.

Quackers · 12-07-2003, 17:15

Quote:

Originally posted by jammers
As usual you miss the point - the 6600 is designed to compete with Orange Smartphone thing, P800 etc which all have the decent MP3 player - T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it, althought the Bluetooth MP3 handsfree which is coming soon will kick ass.

No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it

and the 6600 is a competitor.

a 7250 is a "Standard phone"

MDX · 12-07-2003, 17:18

Quote:

Originally posted by ripsaw82
No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it and the 6600 is a competitor.

a 7250 is a "Standard phone"

so the T610 can get new appz installed onto it like the nokia 3650/7650 and the P800 ??

AndyM · 12-07-2003, 17:32

I don't think the t610 uses Symbian does it?
See here

Tristan_B · 12-07-2003, 17:38

Quote:

Originally posted by ripsaw82
No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it and the 6600 is a competitor.

a 7250 is a "Standard phone"

I would consider the T610 a 'standard phone' rather than a smartphone, and I certainly would put it in the same 'class' as the 7250(i) -- they have near identical feature sets.

To my mind, the T610 would require a memory card slot and a bit more power before I would consider it a smartphone, and probably a larger screen to allow full web browsing rather than just WAP. Of course, this would all have repercussions on the size of the thing...

And PreZiCion: the T610 has a Java interpreter, and can run games designed for the Mophun platform (which I think is exclusive to SE). I have only seen games available, although I guess it's possible to use it to run other applications.

gk141054 · 12-07-2003, 21:09

I read in Stuff magazine that you can buy a programme for $10 that will act as a remote mp3 / computer controller for Apple computers (bluetooth equipped).

They had a pic of the T610 by it so i presume they meant it works with it.

Quackers · 12-07-2003, 21:14

Quote:

To my mind, the T610 would require a memory card slot and a bit more power before I would consider it a smartphone

The Nokia 7650 is a smartphone, and it has no memory slot ....

agentz · 12-07-2003, 22:16

Quote:

Originally posted by gk141054
I read in Stuff magazine that you can buy a programme for $10 that will act as a remote mp3 / computer controller for Apple computers (bluetooth equipped).

They had a pic of the T610 by it so i presume they meant it works with it.

I haven't seen the piece in Stuff Magazine that you're referring to but there is an application for Mac OSX called Sony Ericsson Clicker (which I think is $10 shareware) that allows some remote control functionality via Bluetooth. IIRC SE Clicker only works with the T68i at the moment.

There is another application called Romeo (which is free) that publishes menus onto your phone (under the accessories menu) that allow you to control a host of things as standard using Applescript over Bluetooth - it comes with menus for Apps like Keynote, Powerpoint, iTunes, Apple DVD Player, the OS itself (things like mute, minimize, sleep etc) and Safari. It also has a mouse control mode that allows you to use the phone joystick-thingy to control the mouse.

I'm currently using Romeo on my iBook with my T68i and it works really quite well although I've found it to be quite buggy at times - seems to have problems if other apps are open that want to communicate with a Bluetooth device.

AndyM · 12-07-2003, 22:32

Was that this month's stuff? The one with the legal mp3 stuff on the front?

PC Control from christersson.org can control you PC via bluetooth from your t68i/t610, very similar to Romeo mentioned above.

Tristan_B · 12-07-2003, 23:00

That Clicker thing (and PC Control for Windows) makes use of a feature of SonyEricsson (and in fact, most Ericsson phones before that) which add-ons (like the camera, MP3 player etc) use to add menus to the phone software, to control the peripheral.

That's why it doesn't work on any other make of phone, or indeed on the P800.

I suppose it's possible to do the same thing with java for other makes of phone, assuming the Java implementation can talk to the phones Bluetooth subsystem (which might not be allowed for security).

Tristan_B · 12-07-2003, 23:02

Quote:

Originally posted by ripsaw82
The Nokia 7650 is a smartphone, and it has no memory slot ....

Which is exactly why I don't consider it very smart...

12-07-2003, 23:16

Quote:

Originally posted by ripsaw82
the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it

The T610 does not run the Symbian OS.

*Jon B - Somerset* · 13-07-2003, 10:35

I have a Sony Ericsson T300 which comes with a handy little camera. who needs a god damned mp3 player on their mobile anyway i already have a separate 128 mb mp3 player. An mp3 player on a mobile is waste of phone memory for other stuff like games lol.

By the way if your looking for a nokia with mp3 player then go for the 3300.

09-07-2003, 21:43	#1
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Nokia 6600 - LOL As usual Nokia's technology sucks. Not only will the 6600 have their half baked bluetooth system but it will not come with an MP3 player - you will have to download third party software but it will also ONLY be able to play in MONO - not Stereo. LOL http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/phpBB...ic.php?t=14682

09-07-2003, 22:54	#2
Jonathan David Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northampton Posts: 118	The 6600 My 7650 doesn't play mp3 files as standard and do you know why? Cause its not a 'play' phone. The reason why the 6600 will not play mp3 files in stereo is because its marketed at the high end-user not the little man in the street. Besides if Nokia 'sucks', why are they still one of the most popular makes in this country? I have used other makes of phones, but only Nokia seems capable of making a phone that I find usable.

09-07-2003, 23:47	#3
Pingu Posts: n/a	Re: The 6600 Quote: Originally posted by Jonathan David My 7650 doesn't play mp3 files as standard and do you know why? Cause its not a 'play' phone. The reason why the 6600 will not play mp3 files in stereo is because its marketed at the high end-user not the little man in the street. Besides if Nokia 'sucks', why are they still one of the most popular makes in this country? I have used other makes of phones, but only Nokia seems capable of making a phone that I find usable. And my favourite forum member award goes to... You tell him!!

10-07-2003, 18:32	#4
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	The P800 is a business phone and canplay stereo Mp3s - it just seems very baisc not to include soemthing like that - most popular doesnt always mean best.

10-07-2003, 23:20	#5
Pingu Posts: n/a	But this phone will be about £200 cheaper, have a 65,000 colour display, and it's about the same size as a 7250.

11-07-2003, 10:24	#6
Quackers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 4,665	Its an ace phone. Its a "smartphone" not a PDA! The T610 must be a very shit phone as well, as that does come with an MP3 Player program, you have to get third party software. and many other phones.......

11-07-2003, 17:54	#7
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Quote: Originally posted by ripsaw82 Its an ace phone. Its a "smartphone" not a PDA! The T610 must be a very shit phone as well, as that does come with an MP3 Player program, you have to get third party software. and many other phones....... As usual you miss the point - the 6600 is designed to compete with Orange Smartphone thing, P800 etc which all have the decent MP3 player - T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it, althought the Bluetooth MP3 handsfree which is coming soon will kick ass.

11-07-2003, 20:31	#8
Jonathan David Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Northampton Posts: 118	So let me get this right, you originaly post Quote: As usual Nokia's technology sucks. Not only will the 6600 have their half baked bluetooth system but it will not come with an MP3 player Then you come on here later on in the conversation and say Quote: T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it As you said in your first post, Quote: as usual Sony Ericsson's technology sucks. The T610i doesn't come with an mp3 player Bit of advice Jammers, better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt

11-07-2003, 20:47	#9
gk141054 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 107	Sorry to jump in here and spoil your fun, but I think you will find that the "nokia's technology sucks" comment was refering to their "half baked bluetooth" with which I am inclined to agree with. SE T610's bluetooth on the other hand is wicked so i think your comment about being thought a fool may come into play for your post Also, I am inclined to agree that Nokia do, or at least ARE BEGINNING TO suck. They have rested on their laurels and said "yeah we are the best so everyone else will have to do what we do" Meantime, SE have snook up on the inside, formed a wicked alliance, brought out the P800 and the T610, brought them out packed with features and at sensible prices that people won't be able to resist. You only need to look at Nokia's complete disregard for Bluettoth which led to myself giving up on Nokia and switching to SE. They were the best, but not anymoe, hence them now attempting to catch up with SE's bluetooth bonanza!!!

12-07-2003, 00:12	#10
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	Thank you GK for reading my post unlike the previous poster who didnt. Bluetooth by Nokia is poor and the 6600, a smartphone, has poor features compared with other smartphones, who it is designed to compete with. John, whos the fool?

12-07-2003, 01:31	#11
Luke567 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wakefield Posts: 1,241	still you jammers, still you...

12-07-2003, 09:05	#12
jammers Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: London Posts: 4,223	No, the Nokia has poor features compared to its competitors. Nokia is the fool as eventually people who think their 3330's etc are good phones will realise.

12-07-2003, 12:22	#13
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by jammers No, the Nokia has poor features compared to its competitors. Nokia is the fool as eventually people who think their 3330's etc are good phones will realise. The 3330 is/was a good phone, becuase not everyone wants an expensive phone. It was best in it's league at the time.

12-07-2003, 17:15	#14
Quackers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 4,665	Quote: Originally posted by jammers As usual you miss the point - the 6600 is designed to compete with Orange Smartphone thing, P800 etc which all have the decent MP3 player - T610i is a standard phone, not a smartphone so is not designed to have a MP3 player in it, althought the Bluetooth MP3 handsfree which is coming soon will kick ass. No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it and the 6600 is a competitor. a 7250 is a "Standard phone"

12-07-2003, 17:18	#15
MDX Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,829	Quote: Originally posted by ripsaw82 No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it and the 6600 is a competitor. a 7250 is a "Standard phone" so the T610 can get new appz installed onto it like the nokia 3650/7650 and the P800 ??

12-07-2003, 17:32	#16
AndyM Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lincoln Posts: 1,621	I don't think the t610 uses Symbian does it? See here

12-07-2003, 17:38	#17
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	Quote: Originally posted by ripsaw82 No the 6600 is not designed to compete against a P800. the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it and the 6600 is a competitor. a 7250 is a "Standard phone" I would consider the T610 a 'standard phone' rather than a smartphone, and I certainly would put it in the same 'class' as the 7250(i) -- they have near identical feature sets. To my mind, the T610 would require a memory card slot and a bit more power before I would consider it a smartphone, and probably a larger screen to allow full web browsing rather than just WAP. Of course, this would all have repercussions on the size of the thing... And PreZiCion: the T610 has a Java interpreter, and can run games designed for the Mophun platform (which I think is exclusive to SE). I have only seen games available, although I guess it's possible to use it to run other applications.

12-07-2003, 21:09	#18
gk141054 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 107	I read in Stuff magazine that you can buy a programme for $10 that will act as a remote mp3 / computer controller for Apple computers (bluetooth equipped). They had a pic of the T610 by it so i presume they meant it works with it.

12-07-2003, 21:14	#19
Quackers Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 4,665	Quote: To my mind, the T610 would require a memory card slot and a bit more power before I would consider it a smartphone The Nokia 7650 is a smartphone, and it has no memory slot ....

12-07-2003, 22:16	#20
agentz Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,292	Quote: Originally posted by gk141054 I read in Stuff magazine that you can buy a programme for $10 that will act as a remote mp3 / computer controller for Apple computers (bluetooth equipped). They had a pic of the T610 by it so i presume they meant it works with it. I haven't seen the piece in Stuff Magazine that you're referring to but there is an application for Mac OSX called Sony Ericsson Clicker (which I think is $10 shareware) that allows some remote control functionality via Bluetooth. IIRC SE Clicker only works with the T68i at the moment. There is another application called Romeo (which is free) that publishes menus onto your phone (under the accessories menu) that allow you to control a host of things as standard using Applescript over Bluetooth - it comes with menus for Apps like Keynote, Powerpoint, iTunes, Apple DVD Player, the OS itself (things like mute, minimize, sleep etc) and Safari. It also has a mouse control mode that allows you to use the phone joystick-thingy to control the mouse. I'm currently using Romeo on my iBook with my T68i and it works really quite well although I've found it to be quite buggy at times - seems to have problems if other apps are open that want to communicate with a Bluetooth device.

12-07-2003, 22:32	#21
AndyM Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Lincoln Posts: 1,621	Was that this month's stuff? The one with the legal mp3 stuff on the front? PC Control from christersson.org can control you PC via bluetooth from your t68i/t610, very similar to Romeo mentioned above.

12-07-2003, 23:00	#22
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	That Clicker thing (and PC Control for Windows) makes use of a feature of SonyEricsson (and in fact, most Ericsson phones before that) which add-ons (like the camera, MP3 player etc) use to add menus to the phone software, to control the peripheral. That's why it doesn't work on any other make of phone, or indeed on the P800. I suppose it's possible to do the same thing with java for other makes of phone, assuming the Java implementation can talk to the phones Bluetooth subsystem (which might not be allowed for security).

12-07-2003, 23:02	#23
Tristan_B Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bath, Poole Posts: 2,461	Quote: Originally posted by ripsaw82 The Nokia 7650 is a smartphone, and it has no memory slot .... Which is exactly why I don't consider it very smart...

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12-07-2003, 23:16	#24
Pingu Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally posted by ripsaw82 the T610 is not a "Standard Phone", its a smart phone, it does not run Symbian OS for the fun of it The T610 does not run the Symbian OS.

13-07-2003, 10:35	#25
Jon B - Somerset Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 5,163	I have a Sony Ericsson T300 which comes with a handy little camera. who needs a god damned mp3 player on their mobile anyway i already have a separate 128 mb mp3 player. An mp3 player on a mobile is waste of phone memory for other stuff like games lol. By the way if your looking for a nokia with mp3 player then go for the 3300.