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Big Brother You're A Wuss..
thms
10-07-2003
LOOKS LIKE YOU PLAYING TO
NUSH, RAY AND SCOTT'S RULES.
THEY TOLD THE WHOLE COUNTRY TONIGHT
THEY WON'T VOTE FOR EACH OTHER
THE REASON THEY GIVE IN THE DIARY ROOM
FOR NOMINATING STEPH AND CAMERON
WILL THEREFORE BE A LIE

SO WHAT ARE YOU BB... I KNOW
A SHEEP IN WOLVES CLOTHING

gazza71
10-07-2003
What if the reason is because they get on better with each other than the other two? Hardly a lie.
thms
10-07-2003
hi
gazza71,

they would have to say to big brother;

we made a pact on 10/07/03
that we discussed the nominations and
that we would not vote for each other

if they give any other reason for nominating
steph and cameron then in my opinion
they will be seen to have lied!



gazza71
10-07-2003
Well they wouldn't.... They could say... We're the young ones of the group, and we all want to be in the final 4 together, so we're nominating the two old gits.
thms
10-07-2003
gazza71 they discussed the nominations
is that not what nasty nick did?

gazza71
10-07-2003
He wrote down who he wanted people to nominate, and said different things to each contestant.

Dean, Brian and Elizabeth all knew who they were voting for, and Helen and Paul did as well.

Same with Kate, Jade and Jonny... I don't really see it as any different to that.
Naughtytomatoes
10-07-2003
Theyve always discussed noms.

Ray and Scott ...same reasons same people last week.

Cameron ..Goss......same reasons same people last week.

The Lisa incident.
Ray based his nomination on the slagging she took by all the housemates the night before.

Ray even told Cameron that his plan was in motion.
thms
10-07-2003
good point about nasty nick
but the three stooges
were celebrating the fact
that they had made a pact
and would be in the final week
that was bang out of order
in effect they were saying
up yours big brother

Cwej
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
He wrote down who he wanted people to nominate, and said different things to each contestant.

Dean, Brian and Elizabeth all knew who they were voting for, and Helen and Paul did as well.

Same with Kate, Jade and Jonny... I don't really see it as any different to that.
”

Completely different situations. You just don't see that cos you want Cam and Steph up for eviction.

YES.... It was clear who Dean and Elizabeth were nominatins and who Helen and Paul were nominating, but only because they talked to each other a lot. No-one ever came out and specifically said, 'if we vote togetherwe'll be in the final 4'. Brian managed to work it out for himself that he had the deciding vote.

In this case the 3 people in question had a clear verbal discussion that said 'we will be in the final 4 together, we will not nominate each other' - which by implication means all 3 will nominate the two survivors from Friday. How Ray can sit there and say 'I'm not looking forward to Monday now' is beyond me, when he's already decided who he's nominating.

Spineless, gutless shitfaces, all three of em.
KriZ
10-07-2003
I agree with you thms - shoot BB and blow up the house with them all in it !!!
gazza71
10-07-2003
Why's it spineless though? It's how it is. I'd celebrate getting the better of a bastard like Cameron anyway.
gazza71
10-07-2003
To me... The best final 4 is Cam, Scott, Ray, Nush. So I hope they don't do anything about it.

Steph should never have been on the show.
Naughtytomatoes
10-07-2003
The whole point is that there is an organised plan to evict people from the house by a majority of the housemates.

This is blatantly nomination rigging.

Not fair at all.
thms
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by KriZ
I agree with you thms - shoot BB and blow up the house with them all in it !!! ”

the three stooges are being lined up tomorrow can't wait


to be continued...
Casino Moon
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by thms
the three stooges are being lined up tomorrow can't wait


to be continued...
”

If Big Brother applies the rules to Scott, Ray and Nush's cheating tonight, then there should also be consequences for Cameron and Steph regarding the blatant bitchfest about Lisa that was aimed at Ray before he made his nominations this week. Some pretty horrible things were said by both Steph and Cameron.
Lisa could also be legally kicked out for trying to get Ray not to nominate her. So if strict rules are applied then there could be no-one left in the house. Funny how Cameron's fans are up in arms tonight but were less vocal during the Cameron led character assassinations of Lisa before the nominations.
Everyone has broken the rules. They could all be dumped. Can't see that happening.
Richard Pryor
10-07-2003
my point is actually regardless of the fact the Ray, Nush and Scott spoke about nominations but about the fact that Big Brother knew that by choosing a "Head of House" this week then nominations for the final 4 would go with who won the HoH position surely...ie;

HoH has to choose 3 out of 5 housemates to put up for eviction, therefore informing the housemates left after eviction night of his probable choices for the following weeks nominations. With the choice being Cameron, Lisa and Steff then it is surely obvious to Scott and Nush (or you would like to think) that if they were to nominate Steff and Cameron (should Lisa be the one to leave on Friday) then the likelihood would be Ray would too and they'd be free from eviction for yet another week....

so...?? What if Cameron, Steff...well, any other housemate had become HoH ...

By setting the animal race task in the week they did Big Brother actually made sure that whoever became HoH would be in the final 4 most likely with 2 mates and the 1 remaining housemate out of the 3 they singularly chose to be up for eviction this week
Cwej
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Richard Pryor
my point is actually regardless of the fact the Ray, Nush and Scott spoke about nominations but about the fact that Big Brother knew that by choosing a "Head of House" this week then nominations for the final 4 would go with who won the HoH position surely...ie;

HoH has to choose 3 out of 5 housemates to put up for eviction, therefore informing the housemates left after eviction night of his probable choices for the following weeks nominations. With the choice being Cameron, Lisa and Steff then it is surely obvious to Scott and Nush (or you would like to think) that if they were to nominate Steff and Cameron (should Lisa be the one to leave on Friday) then the likelihood would be Ray would too and they'd be free from eviction for yet another week....

so...?? What if Cameron, Steff...well, any other housemate had become HoH ...

By setting the animal race task in the week they did Big Brother actually made sure that whoever became HoH would be in the final 4 most likely with 2 mates and the 1 remaining housemate out of the 3 they singularly chose to be up for eviction this week
”

I worked that out earlier too. You're absolutely right. Whichever 2 people were not chosen by whoever was Head Of House, were guaranteed passage to the final week by sticking with the choices of Head Of House on week 8.

I don't thnik the producers thought it through properly... just for a change.

Anyway, Gazza - why is it you get outraged by things like biased editing, but when it comes to actual physical OBVIOUS cheating, you think that's OK... well obviously, if it's the people you want to stay in. You can't change the rules to suit yourself. Life doesn't work like that.
Casino Moon
10-07-2003
Let's get things into perspevtive here.
EVERY SINGLE HOUSEMATE has broken the rule regarding discussing and influencing nominations. Not least Cameron and Steph.
Perhaps a fair solution would be to put them all up for the public vote next week. That would wipe the smiles from the faces of Nush, Scott and Ray, and would be fair punishment for Cameron and Stephs' ghastly attempts to influence Ray by destroying Lisa behind her back.
Lisa has broken the rule too but she's probably going to be evicted anyway on friday.
I'm all for punishing Ray Scott and Nush for tonight's cheating but to leave Cameron and Steph unpunished would be a travesty.
Put 'em all up for the vote ! watch 'em squirm
dunkpigeon
10-07-2003
BB has been soft in recent days, but whatever the outcome of the show, this 'nomination pact' even though it was just hinted at. should be exhoursised from our screens!

Its all supposed to be about entertainment afterall, BB tries to deliver this through weekly tasks. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't!

Surley that and the other misdameaners last night, should be like putty in the producers hands!
thms
10-07-2003
bigbrother were waiting
and were watching
are you a wuss?

Richard Pryor
10-07-2003
How does big Brother respond to this?

I was under the impression that Ray was given a formal warning from Big Brother but when Gos appeared on BBLB he was introduced as the only housemate to receive a formal warning?! ...anyone got any info on that?

I was going to suggest that maybe BB would put all housemates went up for nomination OR give each of the housemates a warning which beings me back to whether Ray does indeeed have a warning or not cus if he did then surely he would be out the door for having 2...

i suspect this is all hyperthetical anyhoo seeing as it is 3.40pm and BB has still not taken any action regarding the chatting of nominations in the reward room last night or on previous occassions between ALL housemates at one time or another!

and besides, i'm only posting this hyperthetically anyway as i'm not too fuss about who chatted about what but my point still remains!
Coljj
10-07-2003
They should just keep doing HoH except that they nominate 2 instead of 3.
nickymonger
10-07-2003
Im sorry but I have heard Cameron and Steph saying theyd prefer to stay together till the end. That is ALL what was said. There was no vote for the other two.. it was a hope that the young'uns stay till the end. The words nomination and voting were NOT used. They did not cheat anymore so than the Cam, Gos and Steph talk last week.
Richard Pryor
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by nickymonger
Im sorry but I have heard Cameron and Steph saying theyd prefer to stay together till the end. That is ALL what was said. There was no vote for the other two.. it was a hope that the young'uns stay till the end. The words nomination and voting were NOT used. They did not cheat anymore so than the Cam, Gos and Steph talk last week. ”

Quote:
“Originally posted by Richard Pryor
i suspect this is all hyperthetical anyhoo seeing as it is 3.40pm and BB has still not taken any action regarding the chatting of nominations in the reward room last night or on previous occassions between ALL housemates at one time or another! ”

thats what i was suggesting... if they (BB) were going to punish Nush Ray and Scott in some way then the same punishment should apply to Steff and Cameron also glad we agree on this
SULLA
10-07-2003
Posted by cwej

YES.... It was clear who Dean and Elizabeth were nominatins and who Helen and Paul were nominating, but only because they talked to each other a lot. No-one ever came out and specifically said, 'if we vote togetherwe'll be in the final 4'. Brian managed to work it out for himself that he had the deciding vote.
_________________________________________________

Brian needed Dean to explain it to him. I have to say that they were my prefered last 4

I am totally against the concept of voting people OUT. I think people should be voted IN. When they are 3 or more uo for eviction ther publiv should vote for who they want to stay in and the least popular should go.

The present system favours the boring characters and is against interesting HMs.

Jon, for instance was either loved or hated...no middle ground.
In the week he was evicted he could have been the prefered choice of say 60% of voters with the other 2 having 20% each.
Anyone not liking Jon would vote against him and he would be evicted with 40% of the vote even though he was easily the most popular. ( The other 2 would have 30% each ? )
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