Hi, Is there a maximum disk size (capacity) that used with the 9200T - having had the box apart I was thinking of upgrading to the DB35 500GB or 750GB drive.
Thanks
Steve Wright
Thanks
Steve Wright
9200T Maximum Disk Drive
Both CE drives have been used without problems in the Hummy.
You should be aware that the Hummy has a limit of 511 recordings so I wouldn't get a too bigger HDD and organisation of recordings of this many will be a bit of a problem.
You should be aware that the Hummy has a limit of 511 recordings so I wouldn't get a too bigger HDD and organisation of recordings of this many will be a bit of a problem.
Thanks for info - I hadn't realised that there was a limit on the number of recorded programs. On the basis that there is a limit I will go for the 500GB that should yield approx 511 1 hour prgrams.
Originally Posted by kite:
“Thanks for info - I hadn't realised that there was a limit on the number of recorded programs. On the basis that there is a limit I will go for the 500GB that should yield approx 511 1 hour prgrams.”
“Thanks for info - I hadn't realised that there was a limit on the number of recorded programs. On the basis that there is a limit I will go for the 500GB that should yield approx 511 1 hour prgrams.
”
This all depends on what mix of programmes you record -- both their length and their origin. As a rule of thumb, for the BBC channels reckon 2GB per hour; for all of the others reckon 1GB per hour.
I had a Seagate 750GB in my Hummy for a while, and with the mix of programmes that I record I filled it(!) with about 450 recordings.
-- from CyberSimian in the UK
Originally Posted by ethel_wombat:
“511 recordings - sounds like they use an 8 bit counter for numbering the recordings”
“511 recordings - sounds like they use an 8 bit counter for numbering the recordings”
Sounds like a 9 bit counter to me.
It is a 16 bit counter but there is only room for 2048 entries in the root directory. This should limit it to 1023 recordings (+ the two buffers).
Why it is further limited to 511 recordings is a bit of a mystery.
Why it is further limited to 511 recordings is a bit of a mystery.
Originally Posted by xyz321:
“It is a 16 bit counter but there is only room for 2048 entries in the root directory. This should limit it to 1023 recordings (+ the two buffers).
Why it is further limited to 511 recordings is a bit of a mystery.”
“It is a 16 bit counter but there is only room for 2048 entries in the root directory. This should limit it to 1023 recordings (+ the two buffers).
Why it is further limited to 511 recordings is a bit of a mystery.”
Is it limited to a total of 511 recordings, or to 511 in the video list + 511 in the radio list ? (ie. did those who filled the list record a mix of video/radio or only video?) That would use one bit as a video/radio flag, although as I have only a 160GB HDD and have only attempted transfer via Humax USB, I've no way to investigate this theory.
Maybe another bit is used for the GREEN (tick) selection ?
Originally Posted by nvingo:
“I've no way to investigate this theory.”
“I've no way to investigate this theory.”
You have a Humax and can make lots of short recordings.
Originally Posted by nvingo:
“Is it limited to a total of 511 recordings, or to 511 in the video list + 511 in the radio list ? (ie. did those who filled the list record a mix of video/radio or only video?)”
“Is it limited to a total of 511 recordings, or to 511 in the video list + 511 in the radio list ? (ie. did those who filled the list record a mix of video/radio or only video?)”
Makes sense, 511+511=1022, + 2 rec buffers = 1024, this 2^10... a very likely number for the size of an array...
Originally Posted by gtg:
“You have a Humax and can make lots of short recordings.”
“You have a Humax and can make lots of short recordings.
”
Oh that I had enough free space on the HDD
What I meant was that to view any data other than the recordings themselves requires the HDD be connected to the PC and the relevant utility be used to read from it.
Originally Posted by nvingo:
“Is it limited to a total of 511 recordings, or to 511 in the video list + 511 in the radio list ? (ie. did those who filled the list record a mix of video/radio or only video?) That would use one bit as a video/radio flag, although as I have only a 160GB HDD and have only attempted transfer via Humax USB, I've no way to investigate this theory.
Maybe another bit is used for the GREEN (tick) selection ?”
“Is it limited to a total of 511 recordings, or to 511 in the video list + 511 in the radio list ? (ie. did those who filled the list record a mix of video/radio or only video?) That would use one bit as a video/radio flag, although as I have only a 160GB HDD and have only attempted transfer via Humax USB, I've no way to investigate this theory.
Maybe another bit is used for the GREEN (tick) selection ?”
I just tried it out by creating 285, 1 minute radio recordings to add to the 225 video recordings already there. When trying to add a further recording it would not create any new recordings when the combined total of video and audio recordings reached 511.
All the recordings are treated the same on the hard disk, it is just the way they are displayed as a video & audio section in the record list that is different.
It's a good job PC's aren't limited to 511 files.
Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.
Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.
Originally Posted by JAK99:
“It's a good job PC's aren't limited to 511 files.
Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.”
“It's a good job PC's aren't limited to 511 files.
Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.”
They've all got their limits, even the 8 TB addressable of FAT32.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
Originally Posted by andro101010:
“They've all got their limits, even the 8 TB addressable of FAT32.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing.”
“They've all got their limits, even the 8 TB addressable of FAT32.
Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
”
8TB is never going to be enough, what with transferring all those Hi-Def DVDs to the server, storing all those losslessly-compressed 7.1 audio files, editing all those widescreen home movies and backing-up all those 15megapixel photos
Originally Posted by JAK99:
“It's a good job PC's aren't limited to 511 files.”
“It's a good job PC's aren't limited to 511 files.”
It's limited to 512 in the root directory of a FAT16 filesystem (Windows 95 &c.)
I must say I don't quite see the point in storing vast numbers of programmes on a vast disk drive as there is no (non-messy) way to backup and restore programmes, and no way to divide programmes into folders.
Quote:
“Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.”
“Why Humax limit the number of files yet have massive space few use for MP3s seems a bit stupid.”
But I do have 2½ gigs of MP3s despite the shortcomings, so YMMV.
Thanks for all the replies. I have updated the system with a 500GB drive (£72.00) without any problems. The main use is for series recording so that I can watch a number of episodes back to back without worrying about the space. Once the series is watched I then delete the lot on mass.
Regards
Steve Wright
I have updated the system with a 500GB drive (£72.00) without any problems. The main use is for series recording so that I can watch a number of episodes back to back without worrying about the space. Once the series is watched I then delete the lot on mass.Regards
Steve Wright
BUT will you ever get to watch the backlog... that 10 day continuous watch will be a might feat ...
Originally Posted by kite:
“Thanks for all the replies. The main use is for series recording so that I can watch a number of episodes back to back without worrying about the space. Once the series is watched I then delete the lot on mass.”
“Thanks for all the replies.
The main use is for series recording so that I can watch a number of episodes back to back without worrying about the space. Once the series is watched I then delete the lot on mass.”
Originally Posted by kite:
“ I have updated the system with a 500GB drive (£72.00) without any problems.
Regards
Steve Wright”
“ I have updated the system with a 500GB drive (£72.00) without any problems.
Regards
Steve Wright”
If that's the ACE drive, that's a better price than I could find, Steve. Did they have any left?
I tried a Western Digital Caviar in mine, and like several non-ACE drives, it's a FIAP (non-recorder) on alternate switch-ons. The power saving feature makes it start too slowly for the Hummy. I don't think the WD software Lifeguard Tools let you configure these on a PC to appropriately disable the power saving. Though I'd be happy to learn different from anyone who can decipher the WD jargon.
My original failed just as it reached 511 Programs - and >1% free. So maybe it's a very good idea to leave some free space...
