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caprice
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by nelly-j
have you never been as young as her, thinking your boyfriend is the love of your life ...until you meet someone new and you realise that you have been making do with second best. i have , and i'm sure most people have. i'm not saying this is the real thing but, maybe it's put things into perspective for nush and she is now dealing with how she feels . and as for how she is being percieved by the nation... yes i should imagine that reality has bitten and she is worried, and is trying to make light of the whole situation. ”

Yes, not so long ago I was that young. I was never that shallow.
lazyjane
10-07-2003
Word to what the person above me said.

ie, I agree wholeheartedly.

She's young and probably confused. I'm not saying that she necessarily dealing with this in the right way but she's in an unusual situation and probably doesn't know what to do.
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Even Tania (who is younger than Nush) kept her boyfriend out of the programme and managed to keep her hands off the guys. It is nothing to do with age and all to do with personality. Nush needs to be the centre of attention and with guys she achieves this through sexual moves. Not big, not clever, and unpleasant as she has a boyfriend.
lazyjane
10-07-2003
The flirting I see a sign of insecurity. Once again I'm not saying that's right but i've been there and done that (although not when I've had a boyfriend mind). It doesn't necessarily (I'm using that word a lot I've noticed) make her a bad person though.
caprice
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lazyjane
The flirting I see a sign of insecurity. Once again I'm not saying that's right but i've been there and done that (although not when I've had a boyfriend mind). It doesn't necessarily (I'm using that word a lot I've noticed) make her a bad person though. ”

She is feeling guilty about it.

The difference is that she couldn't control herself (as Tania could) even on national TV. She knew that she would be branded all sorts of things but went ahead anyway. She is evidently that interested, and cares so much for the feelings of, her boyfriend.

What I find makes her worse is that her thoughts today are for herself. She is not distraught that she may have upset her partner. She only cares about herself. As she said, she has "grandly, royally, done it again."
nelly-j
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
Even Tania (who is younger than Nush) kept her boyfriend out of the programme and managed to keep her hands off the guys. It is nothing to do with age and all to do with personality. Nush needs to be the centre of attention and with guys she achieves this through sexual moves. Not big, not clever, and unpleasant as she has a boyfriend. ”

i don't think you can compare tanya with nush. if only for the fact that she didn't have a mutual attraction with any of the other hms.
her mum is quite right to encourage nush to have some fun in the house,she's only 22 not 42 with responsibilities !!
also, don't forget her boyfriend is 36 yrs old.... leaves her alone for months at a time. hence i don't think there is much of a relationship... which is why she is so confused. if we all stuck with people who didn't make us as happy as we deserved wouldn't the world be a miserable place ? it might not be scott that she ends up with but at least she has realised that the relationship she is in is not a healthy one.
caprice
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by nelly-j
i don't think you can compare tanya with nush. if only for the fact that she didn't have a mutual attraction with any of the other hms.
her mum is quite right to encourage nush to have some fun in the house,she's only 22 not 42 with responsibilities !!
also, don't forget her boyfriend is 36 yrs old.... leaves her alone for months at a time. hence i don't think there is much of a relationship... which is why she is so confused. if we all stuck with people who didn't make us as happy as we deserved wouldn't the world be a miserable place ? it might not be scott that she ends up with but at least she has realised that the relationship she is in is not a healthy one.
”

1. You can't punish her boyfriend because he's in his 30s! Being middle aged doesn't mean he can be sh*t on! She may not be 42 but she still has responsibilities if she is in a relationship.

2. He works away. So? She has put up with it for years. If she didn't like it, why did she stay with him?

3. The decent thing for anyone to have done, regardless of age, would be to have put all feelings on hold until out of the house, to have ended the relationship before entering the house, or to leave now, contact her partner and decide what to do next.

Or am I now going to hear that £70,000 is more important than her reputation and her boyfriends feelings?
lazyjane
10-07-2003
Damn Right!
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Even nush knows what she did was wrong. She's been agonising about it all day, wondering how she'll be judged. Compare her state with steph's who hasn't got a care in the world because she is single and can do as she likes.

I don't think anyone is saying that Nush is not allowed find other blokes attractive and finish with her boyf and move on... they are objecting to the barefaced, two-timing, public way in which it was done.
nelly-j
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by caprice
1. You can't punish her boyfriend because he's in his 30s! Being middle aged doesn't mean he can be sh*t on! She may not be 42 but she still has responsibilities if she is in a relationship.

2. He works away. So? She has put up with it for years. If she didn't like it, why did she stay with him?

3. The decent thing for anyone to have done, regardless of age, would be to have put all feelings on hold until out of the house, to have ended the relationship before entering the house, or to leave now, contact her partner and decide what to do next.

Or am I now going to hear that £70,000 is more important than her reputation and her boyfriends feelings?
”

i don't mean that 'cos he is 36 he should be sh*t on. i meant that as you get older your priorities change, by working away so much he has made it quite clear where his lie.
p.s. i am 36 and am most definately NOT middle aged. and how i behave now is very different to how i behaved when i was 22..... as it should be.
richbstrd
10-07-2003
Some of the people criticising NUsh in this thread have a very poor view of women IMO.

Nush is in a "relationship" with some one who is 13 years older than her, who leaves her on her own for months on her own and cannot even bother to support her during BB. To me this guy seems to have a very little committment in his relationship to Nush.

Her own mother (who would know far more about the situation then any of us) feels the relationship is not healthy and everything I have heard about it indicates that to me.

If anything Nush should be congratulated for trying to make the relationship with this guy (he would appear clearly unsuitable for her) for so long. All the commitment seems to be from her side only.

BB is a life changing experience for them all. It would not surprise me in the least if it has made her think about the way things are in her real life very seriously.

She has not promised Scott anything but she does clearly fancy him. Maybe he is the one for her, maybe not. But no-one deserves to stay in a relationship with someone (who himself is not that committed to it) when it is not making them happy.

As for quitting the BB experience right at this moment - why should she for someone who does not even bother to support her in the gameshow?

She is only 23 for christ sakes - Give her a break!!!
nelly-j
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
Even nush knows what she did was wrong. She's been agonising about it all day, wondering how she'll be judged. Compare her state with steph's who hasn't got a care in the world because she is single and can do as she likes.

I don't think anyone is saying that Nush is not allowed find other blokes attractive and finish with her boyf and move on... they are objecting to the barefaced, two-timing, public way in which it was done.
”


all she has done though is join in a game of truth or dare.... and done nothing other than what the other female hms did.
nelly-j
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by richbstrd
Some of the people criticising NUsh in this thread have a very poor view of women IMO.

Nush is in a "relationship" with some one who is 13 years older than her, who leaves her on her own for months on her own and cannot even bother to support her during BB. To me this guy seems to have a very little committment in his relationship to Nush.

Her own mother (who would know far more about the situation then any of us) feels the relationship is not healthy and everything I have heard about it indicates that to me.

If anything Nush should be congratulated for trying to make the relationship with this guy (he would appear clearly unsuitable for her) for so long. All the commitment seems to be from her side only.

BB is a life changing experience for them all. It would not surprise me in the least if it has made her think about the way things are in her real life very seriously.

She has not promised Scott anything but she does clearly fancy him. Maybe he is the one for her, maybe not. But no-one deserves to stay in a relationship with someone (who himself is not that committed to it) when it is not making them happy.

As for quitting the BB experience right at this moment - why should she for someone who does not even bother to support her in the gameshow?

She is only 23 for christ sakes - Give her a break!!!
”

spot on ...
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by nelly-j
p.s. i am 36 and am most definately NOT middle aged. and how i behave now is very different to how i behaved when i was 22..... as it should be. ”

Age
1 - 30 Youth
30 - 60 Middle age
60 - 90 Old age

Sorry but you are middle aged! If you mean that you do not feel that you ve 'middle aged' values, then fair enough, but in chronological terms, you are!

The average lifespan in this country is 74.9. You are in fact coming up to the exact middle of your life!
SULLA
10-07-2003
Headlines

Nush engaged to Karl Malden's lovechild.
lazyjane
10-07-2003
30-60 old aged!

Haha omg what? That is just so very inacurate. 30yr olds are NOT middle-aged.
emmeline
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by richbstrd
Some of the people criticising NUsh in this thread have a very poor view of women IMO.

Nush is in a "relationship" with some one who is 13 years older than her, who leaves her on her own for months on her own and cannot even bother to support her during BB. To me this guy seems to have a very little committment in his relationship to Nush.

Her own mother (who would know far more about the situation then any of us) feels the relationship is not healthy and everything I have heard about it indicates that to me.

If anything Nush should be congratulated for trying to make the relationship with this guy (he would appear clearly unsuitable for her) for so long. All the commitment seems to be from her side only.

BB is a life changing experience for them all. It would not surprise me in the least if it has made her think about the way things are in her real life very seriously.

She has not promised Scott anything but she does clearly fancy him. Maybe he is the one for her, maybe not. But no-one deserves to stay in a relationship with someone (who himself is not that committed to it) when it is not making them happy.

As for quitting the BB experience right at this moment - why should she for someone who does not even bother to support her in the gameshow?

She is only 23 for christ sakes - Give her a break!!!
”

Couldn't agree more.
I wish anyone in a relationship before entering BB would think seriously about how much their relationship means to them and consider breaking up for a while during their BB experience so this kind of thing was avoided. I think I would in similar circumstances.

I hope Nush and Scott get it on, not sexually, that doesn't interest me at all as a viewer, but it'd be nice to see their relationship develop into something deeper.
A bit of romance would truly warm the cockles of my heart.
The Helen/Paul romance is still my favourite ever BB story line. I'd love Scott and Nush to get together over the next couple of weeks even though I don't especially like either of them. At least it'll make things a little more interesting.
scott&nush
10-07-2003
Nush is like Helen in BB2 she is thinking over what she's got today and seeing if its worth losing and if she would be happier with someone else, could be Scott or not who knows! She obviously has some loving feelings towards Scott, being locked up 24/7 can have an affect and surely shows that a relationship can be strong if u can stand eachother all that time, and maybe his made her realise that her relationship with her boyfriend might not be all its made up to be. The commitment he showed by not coming to support her through this huge experience is dire!
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by lazyjane
30-60 old aged!

Haha omg what? That is just so very inacurate. 30yr olds are NOT middle-aged.
”

If you read the post correctly, it says 30 - 60 is middle aged. (Or are you misquoting to try and prove your point?)

That is the chronology that the medical and sociological professions use. You don't have to agree with it but it is rather silly to post a misquoted version and then call it innacurate.
Shelley
10-07-2003
As we have had a long-term, successful relationship (and one baby from BB1) in each of the previous BB series, it would be a shame if we broke the pattern for this BB.
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by scott&nush
Nush is like Helen in BB2 she is thinking over what she's got today and seeing if its worth losing and if she would be happier with someone else, could be Scott or not who knows! She obviously has some loving feelings towards Scott, being locked up 24/7 can have an affect and surely shows that a relationship can be strong if u can stand eachother all that time, and maybe his made her realise that her relationship with her boyfriend might not be all its made up to be. The commitment he showed by not coming to support her through this huge experience is dire! ”

I find it rather odd that being out in a house with 6 males, nosh suddenly finds one that she is willing to risk her reputation for and break up a long-term relationship for. Coincidence? I think she just can't help herself.
Shelley
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by gazza71
Dunno... This time 2 years ago, Helen and Paul weren't really denying anything... I think it would have been the night of the dinner date last night. ”

Two years ago, Paul got terrible cold feet, don't you recall? He backed off big time and told all the others there was nothing in it with Helen and he didn't fancy her, etc. I can't remember the exact details....can anyone else?
scott&nush
10-07-2003
Helen didn't damage her reputation when she decided to go with Paul did she.
Corrected error before.
lazyjane
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by The_Green_Man
If you read the post correctly, it says 30 - 60 is middle aged. (Or are you misquoting to try and prove your point?)

That is the chronology that the medical and sociological professions use. You don't have to agree with it but it is rather silly to post a misquoted version and then call it innacurate.
”

It was an accident actually. I meant to write middle aged, got distracted and typed old aged instead. SILLY ME! Patronising much?

Also I have never before heard a 30yr old be reffered to as Middle aged.
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by scott&nush
Helen didn't damage her reputation when she decided to go with Paul did she.
Corrected error before.
”


Well the boyfriend did dump her publicly in a national newspaper and many newsites trashed her! I find that rather damaging!
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