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reginabeavers
10-07-2003
all the evidence points probably to him not being able to come to terms with his sexuality.A number of repressed gay men seek solice in the bible as he did 2 years ago looking for reasons they cannot interact with women,outwardly his prudish exterior hides an inquisitive mind like watching a horror film through your fingers.His well documented trips into the bathroom highlight another trait,his facial expressions and drama queen actions plus his general body language highlight more,his favourite film is ghost not generally known as a mans film,He bitches as a drag queen would a la lilly savage,he like many will not take alcohol as it means the true self may come out, losing control is a big no no.He can flirt and touch women without the influence of drink as many women allow gay men to do and he can appreciate beauty in a woman and say it.No women at all have come forward to say they are friends or even close to cameron apart from his mum,he did go to university so where are they? did he have no friends?students have a big culture of socialising and drinking so what happened to him?
lala
10-07-2003
Er no he is just satanic!

Real_Pyrrhic
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by reginabeavers
all the evidence points probably to him not being able to come to terms with his sexuality.A number of repressed gay men seek solice in the bible as he did 2 years ago looking for reasons they cannot interact with women,outwardly his prudish exterior hides an inquisitive mind like watching a horror film through your fingers.His well documented trips into the bathroom highlight another trait,his facial expressions and drama queen actions plus his general body language highlight more,his favourite film is ghost not generally known as a mans film,He bitches as a drag queen would a la lilly savage,he like many will not take alcohol as it means the true self may come out, losing control is a big no no.He can flirt and touch women without the influence of drink as many women allow gay men to do and he can appreciate beauty in a woman and say it.No women at all have come forward to say they are friends or even close to cameron apart from his mum,he did go to university so where are they? did he have no friends?students have a big culture of socialising and drinking so what happened to him? ”


Your image of what homosexual men are like isn't very informed - Lilly Savage is a straight man who dresses up as a woman for a job. The nearest comparison would be a transvestite, and even that would be a tenuous link. In any case, whether he's gay, transsexual or Venutian makes no difference to me, nor should it even be an issue when assessing him as a housemate.
dicey
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Real_Pyrrhic
Your image of what homosexual men are like isn't very informed - Lilly Savage is a straight man who dresses up as a woman for a job. The nearest comparison would be a transvestite, and even that would be a tenuous link. In any case, whether he's gay, transsexual or Venutian makes no difference to me, nor should it even be an issue when assessing him as a housemate. ”

Not that I am agreeing with the first poster but I thought Paul O'Grady was gay
matt.b
10-07-2003
he is just creepy whatever sex he fancies. i agree he bottles up the animal inside him.
Papyrus
10-07-2003
You answered your own question there!
steveyboybmth
10-07-2003
err, Paul O Grady is gay, I'm pretty sure, and I agree, that is a bad stereotype of a gay man
matt.b
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by dicey
Not that I am agreeing with the first poster but I thought Paul O'Grady was gay ”

nope he isnt ive heard
Papyrus
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by steveuk
err, Paul O Grady is gay, I'm pretty sure...”

Indeed, he is...
reginabeavers
10-07-2003
camerons this years alex sibley strangely camp but outwardly straight alex left the bb house having flirted with the girls but is dogged by gay rumours i am in no way saying this is wrong but if cameron wins then is followed by notw reporters going into gay massage parlours having weilded his bible denouncing women who get drunk being ugly and tarty i hope people who wasted their money on him are truely sorry.
Papyrus
10-07-2003
Dermot O'Leary per chance...
...he is continually dogged with gay slurs. The guy plays camp to a tee and is really not as effeminate as he appears. He is as straight as a line.
Geeg
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by steveuk
err, Paul O Grady is gay, I'm pretty sure, ”

yes very much so. And Lily Savage is a drag act - differnet form a transvestite.

I think reginabeavers brings up some interesting traits in Cameron, but I think he is a straight slightly camp man.

Having said that I never know when someone is gay or not, I'm hopeless.
skazza
10-07-2003

was going to type a loverrly riposte to the original post, but i can't be bothered, just that your argument does seem to have one or two flaws.
i apologise in advance to anyone who is outraged at my apathy.

(i am agreeing with r-p totally, shouldn't be an issue...)
Real_Pyrrhic
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Papyrus
Indeed, he is... ”

It seems from this biography that several of the forum members above are right - Paul O' Grady is indeed gay. It doesn't detract from what I was saying originally, though, that the initial post above contained some pretty unrealistic generalisations of what gay men are like.
magsiesss
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by reginabeavers
camerons this years alex sibley strangely camp but outwardly straight ..........”

Stop right there.

No way should Alex's name be used in the same sentance as the other person. It just should not be done.

As for the other, hopefully he will be sent back to Orkney asap - and never be heard of again - God willing.

phew ... just had to get that of my chest ..... I'll go back to relaxing now :yawn:
Eurostar
10-07-2003
Very difficult to tell.I'd nearly describe him as asexual rather than straight or gay.He certainly appears to have had no experience with women whatsoever (and presumably not with men either).I'm not entirely sure what he is,but I don't see much evidence of he being a sexually repressed guy who has been longing to get women into bed but is simply too shy to do so.I'm not sure what he is to be honest
Real_Pyrrhic
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by reginabeavers
camerons this years alex sibley strangely camp but outwardly straight alex left the bb house having flirted with the girls but is dogged by gay rumours i am in no way saying this is wrong but if cameron wins then is followed by notw reporters going into gay massage parlours having weilded his bible denouncing women who get drunk being ugly and tarty i hope people who wasted their money on him are truely sorry. ”

I wrote about stereotyping on the forum recently. When I was talking about the impression people once had of homosexuals, and the way certain stereotypes reinforced those false impressions, regina's attitudes were the sort of thing I was talking about.

I hope anyone who's been making 'humourous' jibes at Tania and Lisa supposedly being transsexual will now realise their error. Stereotypes aren't witty, they are in fact an extremely insideous form of discrimination. They are worse than out and out discrimination because they encourage people who would usually have liberal views to discriminate against minorities on the grounds that it's 'only a bit of fun'.
reginabeavers
10-07-2003
the thread contains ideas of what cameron is not what gay men are,paul ogrady is gay and so are virtually all female impersonators its the way cam goes about his bitching which is so bad,the eye rolling etc as summed up as a pantomime dame ,his general body language suggests that your "gaydar"goes off and says oh look at you sweetie,much flapping of arms high pitched comments etc.Next reality show cameron becomes a barman in a gay bar in soho and watch his reaction? he either walks off or bonds really well and enjoys himself.i think the latter!
bob.stone
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Real_Pyrrhic
It seems from this biography that several of the forum members above are right - Paul O' Grady is indeed gay. ”

(possibly the confusion was a memory of Duncan Norvelle rather than Lily? Duncan Norvelle was the uber-camp "Chase me!" comedian from the 80s, and he was in fact married and straight.)

Bob
matt.b
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by matt.b
nope he isnt ive heard ”

ok he is who cares can we now move on
richbstrd
10-07-2003
It would not surprise me to discover in the future that Cameron was gay. The case for is quite strong with lots of circumstantial evidence.

Some of his behaviour reminds me a lot of my own before I "came out".

HOWEVER his possible sexuality in no way changes how I assess him as a BB candidate.
Geeg
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by richbstrd
HOWEVER his possible sexuality in no way changes how I assess him as a BB candidate. ”

Indeed I agree - I dislike him even if he is gay
MacattacK
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by GG
Indeed I agree - I dislike him even if he is gay ”

hear, hear!
Real_Pyrrhic
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by GG
Indeed I agree - I dislike him even if he is gay ”

Me too - I dislike him because I find his attitude smug, him being gay or not isn't an issue.
Schnauzer Bites
10-07-2003
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“Originally posted by reginabeavers
.A number of repressed gay men seek solice in the bible ”

What a meaningless heap of drivel.

What number, what percentage, where do you get this information from?

Of course a number do, but 1 is a number and just because 1 does, doesn't mean that they all do, or worse still giving the impression that everyone who does seek solice in the Bible is a repressed gay.

If you can't beat him to death for being Christian let's see if you can combine the anti-Christians and the homophobes, and get him voted out that way. Disgraceful.
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