just seen this article saying the recommended guidelines on safe alcohol consumption limits were made up and you have more chance of dying as a teetotal.

strange.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle2697975.ece

Britain has had the steepest increase in death rates from liver cirrhosis in western Europe since the 1950s, according to a study in this week's issue of The Lancet.

Rates of mortality due to liver cirrhosis can indicate the extent of alcohol harm occurring in a population. David Leon (London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, UK) and Jim McCambridge (King's College London, UK) calculated the mortality rates for liver cirrhosis using data from the World Health Organization Mortality Database.

They calculated rates for all ages and specific age groups in Scotland, England and Wales and compared these to rates in 12 other western European countries - Austria, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, and Denmark.


The investigators found that mortality rates for liver cirrhosis increased steeply in Scotland, England and Wales during the 1990s. Steady increases took place until the end of the 1970s, and accelerated in the 1980s and again from 1990 to 1994 onwards. In comparison, mortality rates for both men and women in the other European countries declined by 20-30% from the early 1970s. Between the periods 1987-1991, and 1997-2001, cirrhosis mortality in men in Scotland more than doubled, and in England and Wales it rose by over two-thirds. For women, rates increased by a half in the same period. Across both age-groups and sexes, the liver cirrhosis mortality rates in Scotland are now about double that of the European comparison group.

The authors blame increases in alcohol consumption, particularly wine and spirits, as the main reason for the rise in liver cirrhosis mortality. Total recorded alcohol consumption doubled between 1960 and 2002. They add that increases in the rates of heavy drinking, obesity, and hepatitis C may have also contributed. In western Europe, the reduction in mortality rates from liver cirrhosis has been driven by a decline in overall alcohol consumption in the mainly wine-drinking countries of Southern Europe, state the authors.


http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/35849.php

The trouble is the safe amount varies from person to person so one person may be able to tolerate 40 units a week all their lives with no problems whereas another may get ill drinking 20

btw. I stopped drinking last June after some health problems. Before that i was drinking around 35 units a week. I had high blood pressure and high cholesterol which were both at least partly down to the amount of Alcohol I was consuming.

I have a bottle of red wine a night on Fri, Sat, Sun and 2 glasses of red wine Mon-Thu . I do have weeks where I have nothing Mod-Thu, just to give my liver a rest.

It varies with me. Some weeks ill have next to nothing - other weeks i will do serious damage to my liver.

This week i have had about 3 bottles of lager in total. Some weeks i will have that i one night, along with wine / gin / vodka.

I never drink Sunday to Wednesday.
Thursday I will usually have 1 or 2 glasses of wine.
I will have a few drinks usually on a Saturday or Friday night. If I am in a friends house a few glasses of wine, if I'm in the pub a couple of bottles of lager and a vodka.
I used to drink way more in my 20s but I am not as bothered now, plus I can't stand having a hangover.

Also studies have shown that between 10% and 33% of people never get Alcohlic Liver Disease no matter how much they drink. The reasons for this are not known.

None usually. I suppose I have a drink about once a month but sometimes not even that and then I only have 2 pints of cider or a couple of glasses of wine.

12 Pints of Beer in Pub (3 nights a week, 4 pints in 1 night).

8 Cans of Beer in House (4 nights a week, 2 a night).

About 5 bottles of Vodka a week.

You're gonna have problems, mate. How long have you been doing that much?

Wind up, right??

Shall I book you in to ITU?

A 750ml bottle of Brandy to myself plus 5 or 6 beers.

I used to do about double that but it didn't feel healthy!

I make sure I have three dry night a week other than that I have a glass of wine with my meal maybe a couple at the week-end. I used to drink every evening but it was taking a toll on the old waist line not to mention my liver

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2 glasses of red wine per night - every night!

None for me.... don't like the taste, much less the smell.

Although I do manage to go through a bottle of Asti on Xmas day with a litre of orange juice slopped in it.


LH

Not much, we sometimes get and enjoy a bottle of wine at the weekend, but still have drink here un-opened from Christmas

Often I'd rather have iced coffee, and my hubs an irish coffee..

We must be close to teetotal

jo x

Bottle of wine a night, but nothing at all if I am driving.

Try not to drink in the week but not easy in the (summer).But weekends maybe friday night about 10 to 12 bottles of becks.Saturday not as much but depends how i feel after friday.

far too much

Varies. Some weeks I'll go completely without, others it'll be a couple of cans a night.

God i got a bad head today

I only really drink on holiday and special occasions now. I would say I drink less than 60 units a year now.

And me! And I make damned sure i'm not driving!

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