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New Julyan Sinclair article 10/7/03
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sympathy
10-07-2003
Thanks to the heads up from Daisy Banks I've located the new column he's written..it's interesting as he seems to be agreeing with the anti Cam people who say his bitching is not exactly something you'd expect of a Christian.


http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=747332003

It's not the real Cameron in there, maybe it's time he came out

JULYAN SINCLAIR


I suppose life is ostensibly about conflict; heart versus head, what we really want to do and say within the parameters our conscience allows. Id, ego and superego, if memory serves.

The past seven days in the Big Brother house have brought conflict to the fore in a multitude of ways. Relating this to Cameron, I can see he is torn between his obvious dislike of new housemate Lisa, and the fact that his Christian beliefs dictate he should aspire to a more Christ-like acceptance of his fellow human. Bitchiness and Christianity don’t really go hand in hand, and Cameron’s discomfort at his animus for Lisa is starting to take its toll.

Honesty is the only religion I believe in, and I’m not sure if Cameron qualifies to enter the heart of my kirk. He does in as much as his candour to Ray, Scott, Nush and Steph is ingenuous, but never say something behind someone’s back you’re not prepared to say to their face. He is not alone in this, though; all the original housemates are talking behind the back of the woman who claims to be able to kill her prey with two fingers, yet she doesn’t seem to realise quite how many sets of two fingers are steering her toward her own Big Brother demise.

If the house is a microcosm of the country we live in, we all need to get off our high horses and admit that in real life, as opposed to reality life, most of us would surreptitiously lambast Lisa for her over-enthusiastic and disconcerting approach to the environment in which she finds herself. No-one wants her there, except maybe a slice of the public who appreciate that for this show to fulfil its potential we need to see as many conflicts of interest, opinion and outlook as possible. And credit where it’s due, she has been included to exacerbate any personality cracks which are appearing.

I think this is more pertinent to Cameron than perhaps any of the other housemates. He is a good man at the core but one of his foibles is that he tends to wear his heart on his sleeve when it comes to his opinions of other people.

They all think she’s barmy and slightly psychotic, but somehow it is Cameron’s vehemence which seems most out of character. I say the only way it is out of character is that he usually takes a more direct approach to the problem. In as much as he doesn’t walk about telling people exactly what he thinks of them, you’d be hard pushed to find an associate of his who doesn’t know exactly where they stand with him, reiterating my point that this is not reality television.

In his defence, if Lisa came out and asked him what he thought of her, he’d tell her in no uncertain terms, yet with the level of tact you’d expect.

It is all too easy to forget that in the past four series this has turned from a social experiment into a high profile gameshow, and most of the lab rats have turned into aspiring celebrities. I may be alone in this, but I feel that as soon as someone has been evicted then I only really want to see that person remaining on my television for a week at most. I am sick to the back teeth of seeing these non-entities (Federico’s words) appearing as social commentators on every channel at every given opportunity.

Carol Smillie best sums it up in an interview on a forthcoming ITV documentary when she says that television presenting is a real, and quite difficult job, the skill of which is dumbed-down when reality TV contestants use celebrity rather than talent to get jobs. But then I would say that, wouldn’t I? To cite an example, BB3 winner Kate Lawler now fronts RI:SE with Ian Lee. RI:SE has never been a televisual staple for me, but watching her technical inability and his incessant need to carry her through the programme makes me wonder if I’ve chosen the right vocation.

If all you need to get ahead in TV is to win a game show, have a short skirt and blonde hair then I have neither a canoe nor a paddle, and this creek is a level 4 rapid. Amusingly however, my mother Doris will be appearing on the show tomorrow morning, apparently having masterminded a Houdini-like escape from the Orkney cellar in which Cameron left her locked.

So, another jaunt to London in anticipation of seeing Cameron in the flesh, and in contrast to my last sojourn, this time I don’t think he’ll be coming out. Apathy is dangerous however, as Lisa’s tribe of followers will be voting with venom, whereas Steph and Cameron supporters probably believe she is a dead cert for eviction.

Apropos of my claim that life is about conflict, I have to admit that as time goes on and Cameron approaches the last three and the possibility of winning, I remain split as to what I think would be best for him in the long term. If he comes out sooner then he has had a good innings and can walk proud knowing he got as much out of Big Brother as they have from him. If he does go all the way and pick up the £70,000, rest assured Channel 4 will milk him for everything they can in return. Having never voted during any series of Big Brother, my conflict is this; should I start voting now, and if so, which number should I dial?

Julyan Sinclair is a BAFTA award-winning TV presenter.
Casino Moon
10-07-2003
Not a bad article at all, considering the bollocks he's served up in the past. Julyan is definitely worried about what Cameron has been doing since Lisa arrived, and is under no illusions about how Cameron is setting himself up to be chopped to pieces by the producers, if that's how they choose to edit things.
He can't really criticise what Big Brother has become though, it's a bit late for that as it's been obvious since BB3 ! Cameron knew, as did Julyan ( of course) and still put himself into the spotlight.
ludovica
10-07-2003
"pretentious?.. Moi?"
Argghh! " Cameron’s discomfort at his animus " PANTS!
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
"...in real life, as opposed to reality life, most of us would surreptitiously lambast Lisa for her over-enthusiastic and disconcerting approach to the environment in which she finds herself."

WWJD on national television?

Funny how he wants him out of the public eye now that even he cannot justify his bitchy actions. Bad for the image is he Julyan?
matt.b
10-07-2003
Julian Stout fearing 4 his career
Casino Moon
10-07-2003
oooh you're all sooooo cynical
MajorC
10-07-2003
I have to agree with Casino Moon. That was a pretty good article, and he was spot on about Kate Lawler. Even though I like her, she has the talent of a coffee table.
Papyrus
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by MajorC
...he was spot on about Kate Lawler. Even though I like her, she has the talent of a coffee table. ”

That explains why she ends up in so many magazines like Heat et al ...all they do is sit on people's coffee tables, unread.

I also love Kate. And fell in love with her last year.
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by MajorC
I have to agree with Casino Moon. That was a pretty good article, and he was spot on about Kate Lawler. Even though I like her, she has the talent of a coffee table. ”

Excuse me! My coffee table is fantastic! It can multitask (has drawers for storage as well as a large supporting surface) and is a design piece so is appreciating in value. I will not have a word said against it!
matt.b
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Papyrus
I also love Kate. And fell in love with her last year.
”

How
MajorC
10-07-2003
Apologies to coffee tables all over the country
Papyrus
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by sympathy
...I suppose life is ostensibly about conflict; heart versus head, what we really want to do and say within the parameters our conscience allows. Id, ego and superego, if memory serves...

Julyan Sinclair is a BAFTA award-winning TV presenter.
”

He was certainly right about one thing... And I thought that I was one of the only ones to discuss such concepts...

Julyan get yourself a degree in Psychology, ostensibly it will help. Having these concepts available without having to reference adds credibility to your cause... I don't have one but then would hardly need it. I see beyond that, thankfully...

Incidentally, Macy Gray had an album entitled 'The Id'.
matt.b
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Papyrus
He was certainly right about one thing... And I thought that I was one of the only ones to discuss such concepts...

Julyan get yourself a degree in Psychology, ostensibly it will help. Having these concepts available without having to reference adds credibility to your cause... I don't have one but then would hardly need it. I see beyond that, thankfully...
”

Papy u puzzle me
eden2uk
10-07-2003
Love the way he picks out Carol Smilie as a example of presenting who was once a hostess on wheel of fortune and should of stuck to doing so, because she's pants as a presenter. As for his dig at Kate Lawler (Jealousy I guess) that she just walked into a presenting job, although it won't be for long and she will have to work hard if she wants to continue doing so. I also notice the coward has decided to diss the show seeing that he will not be appearing on it and could have a little bit of bitterness towards it as it supports JT and Kate has said some unflattering opinons of his brother. He has took a massive stepdown from his high and mighty stance towards other HMs, their families and forums opinions on his brother. Wonder if he has been banned by BB because of his remarks in this tabloid or is he just a lily livered coward who is letting his mother face the music.
matt.b
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by eden2uk
Love the way he picks out Carol Smilie as a example of
-snip-
in this tabloid or is he just a lily livered coward who is letting his mother face the music.
”

"Julyan Sinclair is a BAFTA award-winning TV presenter."

guess he has to learn that that is worth fcuk all
Papyrus
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
Papy u puzzle me ”

I know that you are more than aware.

I read in between the lines of your comments after all...
Papyrus
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by matt.b
"Julyan Sinclair is a BAFTA award-winning TV presenter."

guess he has to learn that that is worth fcuk all
”

And to prove it... I know exactly what is meant with such a statement.

And I was also surprised by the BAFTA win. Again, it was a clear example of bandwagon-jumping, to raise the profile of BAFTA ...ahem! Nudge Nudge
matt.b
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Papyrus
I know that you are more than aware.

I read in between the lines of your comments after all...
”

I understand what you mean yet I was unable to profile you yet Hobby of mine. I always freaked out my fellow female housemates in my student accomodation, when one of their "bf" called and I gave them a profile including looks. (Upps just had a Lisa moment there )

No honestly u escaped my prejudiced judgement, which is a good thing
ludovica
10-07-2003
This guy really cant live and let live, can he?
Kate Lawler may not be Sue Lawley, but I like her style, Carol Smillie too. They have that "Every (wo)man" quality . Neither of these women even comes close to being among the worst presenters on TV.. (That accolade belongs to the myriad semi-literates in skimpy clothes that populate childrens programming) Nobody is an instant expert however, and all will improve with experience. Every experienced media-bod is a non-entity at first... IMO Julyan Sinclair still is no matter what prizes hes won, because he lacks the generosity of spirit so essential to real and lasting acclaim both from public and his peers
Camerons brother is guilty of doing the same thing that he accuses Cameron of doing..... no more no less
The_Green_Man
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ludovica

Camerons brother is guilty of doing the same thing that he accuses Cameron of doing..... no more no less
”

Obviously a family trait.
eden2uk
10-07-2003
well said ludivoca
Papyrus
10-07-2003
I also love Kate's style etc... I give her 100% for effort. When she is doing an interview she does try to scratch deeper below the surface. And spontaneously leaves a lot to develop on.

I don't know if there is some unwritten rule about Kate in the industry but I don't often see the interviewees bite Kate's bait...

She has as much right as anyone else to comment on celebs etc... What with her radio programmes and being used on various other shows (Princes Trust on Sunday - C5) somebody obviously loves her and I think she'll be around for a time to come.
maskeddebator
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ludovica
That accolade belongs to the myriad semi-literates in skimpy clothes that populate childrens programming)”

Lets see how Kate compares...

'Semi literate' - Check
'Skimpy clothing' - Check

Hmmm....
thms
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by ludovica
This guy really cant live and let live, can he?
Kate Lawler may not be Sue Lawley, but I like her style, Carol Smillie too. They have that "Every (wo)man" quality . Neither of these women even comes close to being among the worst presenters on TV.. (That accolade belongs to the myriad semi-literates in skimpy clothes that populate childrens programming) Nobody is an instant expert however, and all will improve with experience. Every experienced media-bod is a non-entity at first... IMO Julyan Sinclair still is no matter what prizes hes won, because he lacks the generosity of spirit so essential to real and lasting acclaim both from public and his peers
Camerons brother is guilty of doing the same thing that he accuses Cameron of doing..... no more no less
”


I liked kate when she worked with the young scottish presenter who covered her co-presenter (forget his name) when he was off for a week. if they bring that pair together again they might save ri:se
julyan sinclair has not been on scottish television for sometime
but reading his article reproduced above, i can picture his accent and his taking the mickey delivery.

ludovica
10-07-2003
Quote:
“Originally posted by Papyrus
I also love Kate's style etc... I give her 100% for effort. When she is doing an interview she does try to scratch deeper below the surface. And spontaneously leaves a lot to develop on.

I don't know if there is some unwritten rule about Kate in the industry but I don't often see the interviewees bite Kate's bait...

She has as much right as anyone else to comment on celebs etc... What with her radio programmes and being used on various other shows (Princes Trust on Sunday - C5) somebody obviously loves her and I think she'll be around for a time to come.
”

I agree.. She seems a fair-minded person, who realises she is in no position to treat people condescendingly.. (Graham Norton take note)
The many decades of success that someone like Michael Parkinson has enjoyed is largely down to being generous and understanding towards both the mighty and the humble even handedly. Such people are the mainstays of entertainment, bringing pleasure to all, not an "elitist target demographic"
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