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Old 02-02-2008, 18:58
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It seems more and more of our homegrown talent are heading for America try and crack their tough market. KT Tunstall, Natasha Bedingfield, James Blunt, Lily Allen, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse Mika, James Morrison, Kate Nash have all had varying amounts of success. Adele, Amy MacDonald and Leona Lewis are the next ones being shipped out!

My point in this post is, does a UK artist having more success in America make us in the UK like them less? Joss Stone is a perfect example of this, she's massive in the states, and she was massive here until [the brits incident, when she used an American accent] also now Natasha is getting alot of stick for cancelling her UK gigs to promote in the US. Does this mean she will not experience as much success in the UK again?
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Old 02-02-2008, 19:17
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I don't mind them being huge in the US, but it does put me off if they start letting it go to their head.
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Old 02-02-2008, 19:42
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rush you gotta understand theres alot of bitter people on here, there wishing miss beddingfield's us dream goes tits up or they hope she don't come back.

if you crack america your set for life for money, most uk acts can't break america cause only the british public would buy crap.

westlife are the biggest frauds going, releasing cover after cover, even with simon cowell on board there usless
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Old 02-02-2008, 19:51
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The US and the UK have different music markets. It seems that once someone breaks the US, they decide to cater for that market and forget about their 'roots'. Joss Stones most recent stuff was pure-yankified.

Of course, the UK market is heavily influenced by US acts. In the US they have millions of home grown stuff so people from little islands like the UK don't get noticed as easily.
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Old 02-02-2008, 23:02
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It's not so much the fact that people become big in the US that bothers us- in fact, that's good! The problems occur when the Brits go American and start using American accents (that's an annoying trait in any British person- why should Joss Stone get an exception?) and start putting America above us.
We are becoming Americanised, so we don't like it when all our good singers get taken in by them as well.
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Old 02-02-2008, 23:17
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It seems more and more of our homegrown talent are heading for America try and crack their tough market. KT Tunstall, Natasha Bedingfield, James Blunt, Lily Allen, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse Mika, James Morrison, Kate Nash have all had varying amounts of success. Adele, Amy MacDonald and Leona Lewis are the next ones being shipped out!

Good riddance to bad rubbish!
I could add a few more to that list.
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Old 02-02-2008, 23:27
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I don't mind, but it does annoy me when I hear things like the recent news that Leona is adding two new tracks to her album 'Spirit' just for the american market. That is just taking the piss.
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Old 02-02-2008, 23:31
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We love British artists breaking America, from the Beatles to Coldplay.

Its the ones who either become strange sounding transatlantics overnight and/or those who badmouth Britain the minute they get a sniff of US success, that we cant stand.

*--the same goes for actors.
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Old 02-02-2008, 23:34
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We love British artists breaking America, from the Beatles to Coldplay.

Its the ones who either become strange sounding transatlantics overnight and/or those who badmouth Britain the minute they get a sniff of US success, that we cant stand.

*--the same goes for actors.
Coldplay didn't really break America. They're only really known for his relationship with Gwyneth Paltrow.
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Old 03-02-2008, 00:03
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BBMak was one group that went on and did well in the USA but had little success here,which was a shame cos they were talented guys unlike some other bands.

never knew why they weren't popular here
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Old 03-02-2008, 00:19
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I don't mind, but it does annoy me when I hear things like the recent news that Leona is adding two new tracks to her album 'Spirit' just for the american market. That is just taking the piss.
Why is it? It's clever if you ask me, she had more time before the US release and the record label will have been able to read feedback on the album and then fix any criticisms there may have been. I'm excited about hearing the new tracks.
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Old 03-02-2008, 01:59
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rush you gotta understand theres alot of bitter people on here, there wishing miss beddingfield's us dream goes tits up or they hope she don't come back.
Very true. I think there is some jealousy behind all the bitterness being directed at the likes of Natasha Bedingfield, just because they've had their big break. I'm not a fan or anything but there's nothing wrong with Natasha, yet you get the usual "hope she doesn't come back" or "hope she falls flat on her face" comments. Nothing but bitterness.
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Old 03-02-2008, 03:23
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It seems more and more of our homegrown talent are heading for America try and crack their tough market. KT Tunstall, Natasha Bedingfield, James Blunt, Lily Allen, Joss Stone, Amy Winehouse Mika, James Morrison, Kate Nash have all had varying amounts of success. Adele, Amy MacDonald and Leona Lewis are the next ones being shipped out!
That's such a depressing list of names, most of whom I'd quite like shipped out of the UK on a permanent basis! Even so, it'd be good to see more British music in the US charts because they (and their radio) seem more unadventurous than ever- it feels like, with one or two exceptions, you have to be homegrown R&B, country, rock, rap or sing over-emoting power ballads.

America could really do with some fun pop music for a change but there's hardly anyone in the UK doing that in recent years and I can't imagine Girls Aloud having much of a chance in the arid wasteland of the US charts. They don't really tend to go for pop/dance music or fusions of different styles.

In any case, if I was a reasonably successful artist in the UK and Europe I'd wonder whether it was worth schlepping around from state to state for years trying to 'crack' America when so many have failed before.
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Old 03-02-2008, 14:04
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We get a lot of crap shoved on us from America, Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson, not to mention all that chipmunk rubbish, it's only fair we send them some of ours.
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Old 03-02-2008, 14:55
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I think with very few exception British music and the British charts are much healthier than their US counterparts.

Unless you wan to churn out some tuneless, Timberland produced R'n'B dirge then you haven't got a cat in hells chance of cracking the US top ten.

At least we still have some diversity in out charts.
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Old 03-02-2008, 16:16
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We love British artists breaking America, from the Beatles to Coldplay.

Its the ones who either become strange sounding transatlantics overnight and/or those who badmouth Britain the minute they get a sniff of US success, that we cant stand.

*--the same goes for actors.
I guess that's why Sir Cliff Richard does not like the Beatles he never made it in America.
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Old 03-02-2008, 16:25
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Very true. I think there is some jealousy behind all the bitterness being directed at the likes of Natasha Bedingfield, just because they've had their big break. I'm not a fan or anything but there's nothing wrong with Natasha, yet you get the usual "hope she doesn't come back" or "hope she falls flat on her face" comments. Nothing but bitterness.
It is not bitterness, it is just some people do not like her due to her being arrogant. From what I have read, she does come across as arrogant. That is why I do not like her, it does not make me bitter
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Old 03-02-2008, 16:58
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I don't mind, but it does annoy me when I hear things like the recent news that Leona is adding two new tracks to her album 'Spirit' just for the american market. That is just taking the piss.
It seems to me the only way she'll reach success is with a established rap artist on hand, obviously they don't want all the attention and hype to end up a international failure.
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:05
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It seems to me the only way she'll reach success is with a established rap artist on hand, obviously they don't want all the attention and hype to end up a international failure.
Who is this rap artist you are referring to?

And international failure? LOL. Her album has just debuted at #1 in Australia and is heading the same way in Germany. Also, look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leona_Lewis#Singles

See all the countries BL has charted in and their positions? Even if she doesn't have success in the US (which I think is doubtful), she is no way an international failure.
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:11
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Who is this rap artist you are referring to?

And international failure? LOL. Her album has just debuted at #1 in Australia and is heading the same way in Germany. Also, look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leona_Lewis#Singles

See all the countries BL has charted in and their positions? Even if she doesn't have success in the US (which I think is doubtful), she is no way an international failure.
Akon. Why do they feel the need to reshoot her single and include extra tracks?
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:21
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Akon. Why do they feel the need to reshoot her single and include extra tracks?
I wouldn't class Akon as a rap artist as he does actually sing and does a lot of RnB songs.

Because they have more time and can listen to criticisms the album received and try fix them for the US release. It's the biggest music market in the world and it's amazing if an artist can break into it. I would consider it stupid if they didn't put more focus and effort into it and just hope for the best.
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:21
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It is not bitterness, it is just some people do not like her due to her being arrogant. From what I have read, she does come across as arrogant. That is why I do not like her, it does not make me bitter
Do you have any examples? I've never thought Natasha has come across as arrogant from interviews I've seen with her.
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:26
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I guess that's why Sir Cliff Richard does not like the Beatles he never made it in America.
You would think Cliff would fit right in with all the bible bashers over in america

Not saying all americans are religeon crazed but there is a lot
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:28
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Do you have any examples? I've never thought Natasha has come across as arrogant from interviews I've seen with her.
In New Woman magazine or Company she said some guy approached her when she got off at the airport and told her she looked good, he asked to have her photo taken with her and she agreed because he was good looking.

In Glamour magazine they asked her if she would get any valentines day cards and she said she would be getting loads.

I have posted this before, if you have a look at my post history, you will see the same thing posted by me,ha.
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Old 03-02-2008, 17:31
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Who is this rap artist you are referring to?

And international failure? LOL. Her album has just debuted at #1 in Australia and is heading the same way in Germany. Also, look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leona_Lewis#Singles

See all the countries BL has charted in and their positions? Even if she doesn't have success in the US (which I think is doubtful), she is no way an international failure.
I do not think Leona needs a rap artist to help her. She could probably achieve success in the USA on her own. Good luck to her.
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