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Ideas for Traditional British food that is Veggie!
My son has just opened a 15th century country pub. The theme is classic and historic British food. We are having trouble identifying veggie dishes that genuinely fit this brief. I am a vegetarian, but my diet comprises mostly mediterranean and asian style foods, so I am not helping much! I would be very grateful for ANY suggestions for appropriate dishes, starters or mains. Many thanks in anticipation. (ps so far we have cauliflower cheese, and glamorgan sausages).
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Traditional roast dinner with a veggie roast (all the supermarkets do them) or nut roast and veggie gravy.
Vegetable pie and chips. Potato rosti's with a veggie topping (starter) Vegetable casserole with (or without) fake meat pieces and crusty bread/rice whatever. Sausage and mash with veggie and onion gravy. Some kind of veggie quiche/tart with new potatoes and salad. Traditional fry up with veggie sausages, veggie bacon etc Veggie haggis (found in supermarkets again) with whatever the scots have with it. Neeps and tatties whatever that is!! Veggie bubble and squeak. Veggie burger with chips. If you shop around you can get veggie steaks made from seitan. Of course you can get Quorn but they're not vegan. Waitrose do veggie fishfingers so fishfingers and chips for the kids? I could probably come up with a lot more but it's early! I may get back to you! Wherever possible it would be worth trying to source vegan ingredients or have vegan options as more and more people are becoming vegan and products such as quorn are unsuitable. (There's a pub near me that has a page of veggie food (great, they're trying!!) but it's all quorn products and unsuitable for vegans) Redwood foods are all vegan and a lot of Frys and some of Cauldron are. Also have some soya milk on hand for tea and coffee and soya margarine for the bread. If you do things like that you will soon be recommended in the veggie books etc. A lot of people have dairy intolerance anyway so it wouldn't just be for the vegans! |
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This site has some nice ideas
http://www.vegsoc.org/cordonvert/recipes/homegrown.html |
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Not quite sure RubyShoes noticed the bit about "The theme is classic and historic British food."
I don't think potato rosti falls quite into that theme ![]() LH |
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Not quite sure RubyShoes noticed the bit about "The theme is classic and historic British food."
I don't think potato rosti falls quite into that theme ![]() LH We could also argue that fish and chips isn't british (but portugese). I guess it depends whether people regard it as traditional or not. |
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This site has some nice ideas
http://www.vegsoc.org/cordonvert/recipes/homegrown.html
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Thank you for all of your ideas, it is a great help - keep them coming!
On the rosti subject, I share the dilemma about when something can be embraced as part of our tradition. Of all the British restaurants that I can find on the web (i.e. those making a point of serving British food), when it comes to the veggie option they mostly tend to fall back on pastas and risottos, or other mediterranean dishes. Whilst I like these very much, I don't quite think they fit the brief. We are also trying to avoid meat-substitute products. Good point about making them vegan friendly! |
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I don't think there is such a thing as classic or historic "British" food. Your son could get into trouble by advertising it as such.
Considering we had so many invaders before the 15th C our country would have collected and assimilated their food and ingredients. With Roman,Viking,French and other influences upon our diet,it is very difficult to find or even suggest that our food is quintessentially English. |
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Cheese and broccoli bake? Don't know how traditionally British that is though.
Toad in the hole but with veggie sausages? A veggie English breakfast. Veggie hotpot. ...sorry, keep adding things as I think of them, pretty much any of our Traditional English food you can adapt to be vegetarian. |
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Cheese and broccoli bake? Don't know how traditionally British that is though.
Toad in the hole but with veggie sausages? A veggie English breakfast. |
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Toad in the hole but with veggie sausages?
On the same lines, big Yorkshire puddings with steamed vegetables inside, served with veggie gravy and roast poatatoes. Roast some root vegetables, eg butternut squash, parsnips, sweet potatoes and then... I dunno, serve with a typically English sauce such as a gravy made with port and some seasonal greens. Vegetarian soups - pea and mint, local mushrooms, tomato etc served with home-made or locally baked artisan breads Welsh rarebit The important thing is to have a good choice for vegetarians. This place is all vegetarian and I'm sure meat eaters could find something they'd like. |
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I don't think there is such a thing as classic or historic "British" food. Your son could get into trouble by advertising it as such.
Considering we had so many invaders before the 15th C our country would have collected and assimilated their food and ingredients. With Roman,Viking,French and other influences upon our diet,it is very difficult to find or even suggest that our food is quintessentially English. There are indeed historical dishes that are considered to be British from medieval times and before, and though alluded to in documentary evidence, actual recipies are rare. There are a group of food historians at Hampton Court who research this very topic. |
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Maybe you can get some ideas from Simon Rimmer's Greens veggie restaurant in Manchester....it's been mentioned few times on GFL before.
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Maybe you can get some ideas from Simon Rimmer's Greens veggie restaurant in Manchester....it's been mentioned few times on GFL before.
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Welsh rarebit.
Porridge. Leek and potato soup. |
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Quorn/Veggie Mince Cottage Pie or Veggie Mince Pie with a Puff Pastry Lid
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I would try and avoid Quorn products if possible because it's unsuitable for so many people!! I'm momentarily cheered when I see veggie options on a menu but it's shorted lived when I see it's Quorn! It may as well be meat!
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I would try and avoid Quorn products if possible because it's unsuitable for so many people!! I'm momentarily cheered when I see veggie options on a menu but it's shorted lived when I see it's Quorn! It may as well be meat!
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Two of my children regularly consume quorn mince and quorn pieces when making chilli or curry dishes. Please , folks, can you elaborate on your objections to the stuff.
Is there a health concern, or is it too much like cheating because of the similarity to real meat in form and texture etc? Is it over processed? I do realise it contains egg whites and isn't suitable for vegans. |
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If I had the misfortune to find myself wanting lunch in a vegetarian pub, I'd be pleased to see cheese and onion pie (with gravy) on the menu.
![]() Although I don't know if they did that in the 15th century. |
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Two of my children regularly consume quorn mince and quorn pieces when making chilli or curry dishes. Please , folks, can you elaborate on your objections to the stuff.
Is there a health concern, or is it too much like cheating because of the similarity to real meat in form and texture etc? Is it over processed? I do realise it contains egg whites and isn't suitable for vegans. From a vegetairian point of view, if the egg it contains is free range then it should conform to vegetarian standards (I don't know if it does). But I have no objection to others eating Quorn if they like it, go for it! |
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Two of my children regularly consume quorn mince and quorn pieces when making chilli or curry dishes. Please , folks, can you elaborate on your objections to the stuff.
Is there a health concern, or is it too much like cheating because of the similarity to real meat in form and texture etc? Is it over processed? I do realise it contains egg whites and isn't suitable for vegans. This is from my point of view and may not be the point of view of others. I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons. I didn't give up meat because I didn't like the taste but because I didn't agree with the slaughter and unecessary suffering of animals. I became a vegan because I realised that the dairy and egg industry is just as bad as the meat industry. Just as many animals suffer and get killed unecessarily to provide milk, cheese and eggs. You would be shocked at the extent of abuse and suffering that goes on in the dairy industry. There are plenty of websites that will show this if you are interested. I would be a hypocrite if I didn't eat meat because of animal cruelty but still ate cheese, eggs and milk. Every quorn product contains eggs and most milk. |
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This is from my point of view and may not be the point of view of others. I'm a vegetarian for ethical reasons. I didn't give up meat because I didn't like the taste but because I didn't agree with the slaughter and unecessary suffering of animals. I became a vegan because I realised that the dairy and egg industry is just as bad as the meat industry. Just as many animals suffer and get killed unecessarily to provide milk, cheese and eggs. You would be shocked at the extent of abuse and suffering that goes on in the dairy industry. There are plenty of websites that will show this if you are interested. I would be a hypocrite if I didn't eat meat because of animal cruelty but still ate cheese, eggs and milk. Every quorn product contains eggs and most milk. |
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Ruby, I agree with you, I am struggling with my own hypocrisy (as I see it) as a vegetarian, and despite protestations of my friends and family, I know I can't go on indefinitely like this and veganism is beckoning. I realise that this step will be of similar impact to when I went veggie in the dark ages 25 years ago,in terms of how it will exclude me from various social dining opportunities. I really hate being treated as a special case by (well meaning, but very anxious to please) hosts.
Thought I needed a paragraph here! If you check cooking sauces, some of them are vegan and there are always vegan ones in the 'free from' ranges in the supermarket. Pausing for breath... I could go on lol If you do take the step and want any advice, don't hesitate to contact me
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Two of my children regularly consume quorn mince and quorn pieces when making chilli or curry dishes. Please , folks, can you elaborate on your objections to the stuff.
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