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Catbed
12-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“While watching a recording press Play to bring up the time bar. Note the program length displayed at the right hand end of the time bar, say 00:58:XX for a 58 minute recording, ignore the seconds. To jump to say 50 minutes into the recording press 0050 on the remote key pad while the time bar is displayed and wait 2 seconds or press the OK button for an immediate jump. You can jump forwards or backwards through the recording by this method.

Another way is to bring up the time bar as before and then press the < or > button either side of the OK button, a white cursor appears. Move this along the time bar to the desired time and press OK for an immediate jump to that time.

EDIT: Actually I've just discovered that in the first method you don't have to bring up the time bar, just type in the numbers and the time bar appears.”

A long time ago I tried using that first method, but it didn't seem to work (maybe I wasn't putting in 4 digits), so since then I've used the <> method. I'll have to try the numbers again. Thanks.
mr_jolly
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“While watching a recording press Play to bring up the time bar. Note the program length displayed at the right hand end of the time bar, say 00:58:XX for a 58 minute recording, ignore the seconds. To jump to say 50 minutes into the recording press 0050 on the remote key pad while the time bar is displayed and wait 2 seconds or press the OK button for an immediate jump. You can jump forwards or backwards through the recording by this method.”

Learn something new every day! Thanks

On a similar subject to the double-play "feature", does anyone know how to jump to the current time in the EPG? So if I'm looking 2 days ahead and I want to quickly jump back to the current day and time, is there a shortcut?
tdenson
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by mr_jolly:
“Learn something new every day! Thanks

On a similar subject to the double-play "feature", does anyone know how to jump to the current time in the EPG? So if I'm looking 2 days ahead and I want to quickly jump back to the current day and time, is there a shortcut?”

I assume you know about the skip forward and backward a day buttons ?
mr_jolly
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I assume you know about the skip forward and backward a day buttons ?”

I do but I've seen other PVR software that returns the EPG page to the current time (and day, and channel) if you press '0' from anywhere in the EPG. Was just wondering if there's an equivalent single-button action on the hummy?
mfmf
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by mr_jolly:
“I've seen other PVR software that returns the EPG page to the current time (and day, and channel) if you press '0' from anywhere in the EPG. Was just wondering if there's an equivalent single-button action on the hummy?”

I don't think you can do it with a single press, but you can do it in two: green (to get the time bar up) followed by OK.
mr_jolly
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by mfmf:
“I don't think you can do it with a single press, but you can do it in two: green (to get the time bar up) followed by OK.”

Sounds good - I can live with 2 presses

Thanks
Big-les
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by Catbed:
“A long time ago I tried using that first method, but it didn't seem to work (maybe I wasn't putting in 4 digits), so since then I've used the <> method. I'll have to try the numbers again. Thanks.”

The first two digits you input are the hours, so in the example in my post above if you only put in two digits you would be asking for 50 hours into the recording.
Big-les
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by mr_jolly:
“Learn something new every day! Thanks

On a similar subject to the double-play "feature", does anyone know how to jump to the current time in the EPG? So if I'm looking 2 days ahead and I want to quickly jump back to the current day and time, is there a shortcut?”

The way I do it is very quick. Press the EPG button to cancel the EPG, then press the EPG button again to bring it back up. Of course it always comes up at the current time and on the current channel.
wgmorg
13-02-2008
Press the green button and now.

Originally Posted by mr_jolly:
“I do but I've seen other PVR software that returns the EPG page to the current time (and day, and channel) if you press '0' from anywhere in the EPG. Was just wondering if there's an equivalent single-button action on the hummy?”

Big-les
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by wgmorg:
“Press the green button and now.”

Do you mean just like this:

Originally Posted by mfmf:
“I don't think you can do it with a single press, but you can do it in two: green (to get the time bar up) followed by OK.”

Catbed
13-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“The first two digits you input are the hours, so in the example in my post above if you only put in two digits you would be asking for 50 hours into the recording. ”

Yep, that would explain it
Sleepy1568
15-02-2008
Don't really see the point of it, you can rewind up to 64X which is pretty quick and would save most people having to fast-forward 64X just to get back to where they were watching in the first place.
Big-les
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by Sleepy1568:
“Don't really see the point of it, you can rewind up to 64X which is pretty quick and would save most people having to fast-forward 64X just to get back to where they were watching in the first place.”

I used to re-wind back to the begging at 64x until I found the double press feature, so much more convenient. And if someone does double press by mistake, as you rightly say, they can quickly get back to the point they were watching at 64x.
DSman
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“... And if someone does double press by mistake, as you rightly say, they can quickly get back to the point they were watching at 64x. ”

But that's the whole point, you can't get back quickly to exactly where you were. As I said, when I'm watching a recording I often press it once to see how much time there is left and it's a bind trying to get back exactly to where you were.
Big-les
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by DSman:
“But that's the whole point, you can't get back quickly to exactly where you were. As I said, when I'm watching a recording I often press it once to see how much time there is left and it's a bind trying to get back exactly to where you were.”

Pressing play once does not put you back to the beginning of the recording, so what's the problem? Like you I often press play to see how much time is left but I'm never tempted to press play again while the time bar is on screen unless I want to jump back to the beginning. The subject of this thread is just another moan trying to blame Humax for something that is clearly not their fault.
mr_jolly
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“Pressing play once does not put you back to the beginning of the recording, so what's the problem? Like you I often press play to see how much time is left but I'm never tempted to press play again while the time bar is on screen unless I want to jump back to the beginning. The subject of this thread is just another moan trying to blame Humax for something that is clearly not their fault.”

I don't want to be seen as "moaning" about the "double-press-play-jumps-to-start" feature but IMO it's not as intuitive as it could be. I'd much prefer to press zero or green when the time bar is on the screen to return to the start, and have the second press of play clear the time bar off the screen again. I often press play by mistake while the time bar is still on the screen and jump back to the start (although this is getting less as my time using the Humax increases).
Big-les
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by mr_jolly:
“I don't want to be seen as "moaning" about the "double-press-play-jumps-to-start" feature but IMO it's not as intuitive as it could be. I'd much prefer to press zero or green when the time bar is on the screen to return to the start, and have the second press of play clear the time bar off the screen again. I often press play by mistake while the time bar is still on the screen and jump back to the start (although this is getting less as my time using the Humax increases).”

I've only had my 9200 since December and I must confess to not having read the instruction book yet. I assume the "double-press-play-jumps-to-start" is mentioned there but I actually came across it in the course of use. There is already the facility to jump to start by pressing 0, or more correctly 0000 (see post #25), so you have the option to do either. I agree with you that a second press of the play button to clear the time bar from the screen would be logical, and would then be consistent with some other buttons on the remote
tdenson
15-02-2008
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“ so you have the option to do either. I agree with you that a second press of the play button to clear the time bar from the screen would be logical, and would then be consistent with some other buttons on the remote”

Absolutely, this is the point. A far more intuitive and consistent use of the second press of the play button is to just clear the time bar from the screen. I use a number of digital recording devices and on some of them that is exactly what happens. As a result for me it's very easy on the Humax to press it again expecting that behaviour. I have done this dozens of times - I can't remember ever actually wanting to jump back to the beginning of a recording.
BizMark
24-02-2008
Sounds to me like the case of a learner driver thinking that their car should get a firmware upgrade so they don't have to go through that hassle of having to put something called "petrol" in it every couple of weeks, or have to use those dreaded pedals - because you can press them wrongly and cause a stall or even a crash.

Yeah, the manufacturers should really be making kit that knows when you MEAN to use the controls and when you DON'T.

Seriously for a second, I would NOT want to have the double-press-to-start feature removed just on account of those who are trigger happy. I like that feature and use it deliberately very often. Also I invoke it accidentally on occasions. But I accept that as simply being tough luck; my own failing rather than the box's. All that would be required to solve the issue is adding the ability to use the BACK button to go back to the previous watching point should it be done accidentally.
tdenson
24-02-2008
Originally Posted by BizMark:
“Sounds to me like the case of a learner driver thinking that their car should get a firmware upgrade so they don't have to go through that hassle of having to put something called "petrol" in it every couple of weeks, or have to use those dreaded pedals - because you can press them wrongly and cause a stall or even a crash.
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I'm sorry, but a much more reasonably analogy with cars is complaining because the manufacturer reverses the accelerator and brake pedal. Because other devices which I use frequently do not have similar behaviour I accidentally do the wrong thing. I don't think that puts me in the category of a learner driver.

Just out of curiosity I wonder if I am missing something, but what causes you to very frequently want to go back to the beginning of a recording ? I only watch recordings once. If it's something that my wife wants to watch as well then we will watch it together (better than watching it alone).
DSman
24-02-2008
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I'm sorry, but a much more reasonably analogy with cars is complaining because the manufacturer reverses the accelerator and brake pedal. Because other devices which I use frequently do not have similar behaviour I accidentally do the wrong thing. I don't think that puts me in the category of a learner driver. ...”

Big-les
24-02-2008
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I'm sorry, but a much more reasonably analogy with cars is complaining because the manufacturer reverses the accelerator and brake pedal. Because other devices which I use frequently do not have similar behaviour I accidentally do the wrong thing. I don't think that puts me in the category of a learner driver.

Just out of curiosity I wonder if I am missing something, but what causes you to very frequently want to go back to the beginning of a recording ? I only watch recordings once. If it's something that my wife wants to watch as well then we will watch it together (better than watching it alone).”

I really like the 9200 in black but it shows up the dust much worse than a silver one would.
wgmorg
24-02-2008
Just like black and silver cars...
Originally Posted by Big-les:
“I really like the 9200 in black but it shows up the dust much worse than a silver one would. ”

Big-les
24-02-2008
Originally Posted by wgmorg:
“Just like black and silver cars... ”

Funny you should mention that because I did swap my black car for a silver one of the same type. Actually it's cosmic grey but is close to silver and doesn't show up the muck.
jw75
24-02-2008
Originally Posted by tdenson:
“I'm sorry, but a much more reasonably analogy with cars is complaining because the manufacturer reverses the accelerator and brake pedal. Because other devices which I use frequently do not have similar behaviour I accidentally do the wrong thing. I don't think that puts me in the category of a learner driver.”

Press once to go forward, press twice to go in reverse very quickly - not a very useful feature on any car. An "Are you sure?" prompt would have been better, or using the Rewind key, more logical (2x - 64x then back to start). I would just take it out and make people press "0000" instead.
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