I was that close to getting an iphone

chyllyphylly · 12-02-2008, 15:52

hi peeps

as the title says. I went to the o2 shop then it struck me, I wanted a decent camera on my phone and I own an ipod. So I turned around and went back to work upstairs.

my question is this.....

Has anyone said that to themselves, then gone and bought it and it is the best thing since slice bread or really disappointed?

Lets not turn this into a "the ipod is rubbish or great topic", i just want to hear from people that are relevent to my question

GTL · 12-02-2008, 16:14

I didn't buy one for pretty much the same reasons as you. My view at the time it came out was that it's a £199 ipod touch plus £70 for a phone, so I'll get one when I'm ready to replace my ipod.

chyllyphylly · 12-02-2008, 16:24

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Originally Posted by chyllyphylly

hi peeps

Lets not turn this into a "the ipod is rubbish or great topic", i just want to hear from people that are relevent to my question

that should be iphone not ipod

Sananda Maitreya · 12-02-2008, 16:56

no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't.

chyllyphylly · 12-02-2008, 17:02

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Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't.

my k800 has

Sananda Maitreya · 12-02-2008, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by chyllyphylly

my k800 has

i expect we have different standards

prking · 12-02-2008, 17:59

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Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

i expect we have different standards

There was a comparative review of 5Megapixel compact cameras and 5 Megapixel camera phones last year. Guess which had the better lens and best picture quality? Yep, camera phones. In particular the Nokia N95 came top.

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone with an interest in photography. The compact camera market reached saturation some time ago. The impetus to innovate moved to the camera phone market. And you get to sell them a new one next year!

Sananda Maitreya · 12-02-2008, 18:05

i use an slr so i supposed i'm used to that level of quality. prking: were the compacts in that comparison any good? actually if that comparison is online i'd love to see the various shots.

The Phazer · 12-02-2008, 19:03

I'm quite happy with mine, but I'd certainly agree the camera is poor by phone standards, and the lack of any light/flash is crippling for it.

Phazer

Mr Cable · 12-02-2008, 21:04

When I have images or videos on my phone, where they've been pre-loaded by me or taken by my 5 Megapixel Camera - I like to be able to Bluetooth them to people in the room.

Unfortunately, you can't do that with an iphone.

Some have said it may come one day but IMHO - that's not good enough. It also may never come. Ever.

In relation to the Original Posters' overall question; thanks to software such as JoikuSpot, it's now possible to connect an Ipod touch to a traditional, higher specification phone (any Nokia running S60 v3) using WiFi and enjoy 3.5G Safari Web Surfing using a higher capacity ipod without having to pay a one off purchase premium and a subsequent 18 month contract to o2 for 2.75G s-l-o-w browsing.

TheSoulBrother · 12-02-2008, 21:28

The camera could be better but its fine for what it is - a phone camera. If I am going on holiday, to a concert, football match, carnival or what have you I will carry a proper camera with me.

For everything else it does the job adequately.

Take a look at photos taken with the iPhone on Flickr

http://www.flickr.com/cameras/apple/iphone/

chyllyphylly · 12-02-2008, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Cable

In relation to the Original Posters' overall question; thanks to software such as JoikuSpot, it's now possible to connect an Ipod touch to a traditional, higher specification phone (any Nokia running S60 v3) using WiFi and enjoy 3.5G Safari Web Surfing using a higher capacity ipod without having to pay a one off purchase premium and a subsequent 18 month contract to o2 for 2.75G s-l-o-w browsing.

so your nokia becomes a wifi router?

Mr Cable · 13-02-2008, 01:57

Yep, certainly does.

http://www.joikuspot.com/ has the details. Free download too.

It's in Beta the moment, but the only problem I've had with it so far is the lack of encryption.

chocolate_boy · 13-02-2008, 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya

no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't.

I agree, no one even slightly serious, or caring about photography would use a phone as their main camera. I use my phone cam to snap a pic of the bus timetable rather than writing it down, but I'd never dream of taking my holiday pics etc on it.

I don't think Apple ever intended the iPhone cam to compare to SLRs etc.

I also agree, even the cheapest digitial-cam is better than a camera-phone if you compare a 5mpxel sony/cannon jobby they will always look better than the N95 etc. as they have better lenses etc. It's not just the megapixels that count.

chocolate_boy · 13-02-2008, 05:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by prking

There was a comparative review of 5Megapixel compact cameras and 5 Megapixel camera phones last year. Guess which had the better lens and best picture quality? Yep, camera phones. In particular the Nokia N95 came top.

Source?

Everything I have read has said the opposite.

!!11oneone · 13-02-2008, 13:07

The N95's camera is better than my old compact camera. I'd never use it for 'photography' like I use my Fujifilm bridge camera on holiday etc. But it's taken some great shots out and about and when I don't want to carry a camera. It's more than good enough for night out, kids in the park, friends in the pub, just spotted something interesting type shots and rivals the smaller compact cameras.

!!11oneone · 13-02-2008, 13:09

Here's an article comparing an N95, an N93 and a Canon SLR:

http://www.symbian-freak.com/reviews...n93_vs_10d.htm

Mr Cable · 13-02-2008, 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by !!11oneone

....But it's taken some great shots out and about and when I don't want to carry a camera. It's more than good enough for night out, kids in the park, friends in the pub, just spotted something interesting type shots...

Exactly! Isn't this the point of Camera Phones in the first place?!?

I still have a 'proper' Camera but I'd never dream of taking it with me everywhere I go!

It's just nice to know if I do want to make the effort of taking a picture of something while I'm out, I'll be able to make out what it's of. And for me, that involves having something with a LED or Flash for night time or indoor shots.

!!11oneone · 13-02-2008, 15:10

Indeed. And I've taken some wonderful shots (including normally difficult sunsets, Christmas lantern parades etc) on my N95 that my previous Samsung 4MP camera wouldn't have managed.

I was a snob about camera phones until I got my N95.

chyllyphylly · 15-02-2008, 17:05

well this weekend will see if i made the right decision.

I've borrowed a fully activated iphone for the weekend. Will see if it's for me

bingledee · 17-02-2008, 22:40

hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory...

Ricardodaforce · 17-02-2008, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingledee

hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory...

Which is why they have launched a 16gb model.

chyllyphylly · 18-02-2008, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingledee

hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory...

ok my thoughts of the iphone.....

Camera - Terrible
Web browsing - Amazing (hey I was brought up on wap lol)
Music playing - brilliant BUT my CX300 earphones dont fit in it.

I liked the weather function, the keyboard was easy for me to use. I just kept playing with the iphone on the bus and train.

So do I still want it? Hell yeah. Sacrifice a decent camera for Internet on the move, a music player, and a large screen to watch those TV programs/movies I download.

Am I going to get one? If I need a new ipod, i think i will.

As you can see i am firmly STILL on the fence

the_kop_2 · 18-02-2008, 15:24

I've just bought one on ebay today, I'll be giving it a week or my sis will take it off me..i'll be giving my thoughts about it from tmrw onwards!

Sananda Maitreya · 18-02-2008, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by chyllyphylly

Music playing - brilliant BUT my CX300 earphones dont fit in it.

there's an adapter.

12-02-2008, 15:52	#1
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	I was that close to getting an iphone hi peeps as the title says. I went to the o2 shop then it struck me, I wanted a decent camera on my phone and I own an ipod. So I turned around and went back to work upstairs. my question is this..... Has anyone said that to themselves, then gone and bought it and it is the best thing since slice bread or really disappointed? Lets not turn this into a "the ipod is rubbish or great topic", i just want to hear from people that are relevent to my question

12-02-2008, 16:14	#2
GTL Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 491	I didn't buy one for pretty much the same reasons as you. My view at the time it came out was that it's a £199 ipod touch plus £70 for a phone, so I'll get one when I'm ready to replace my ipod.

12-02-2008, 16:24	#3
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	Quote: Originally Posted by chyllyphylly hi peeps Lets not turn this into a "the ipod is rubbish or great topic", i just want to hear from people that are relevent to my question that should be iphone not ipod

12-02-2008, 16:56	#4
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't.

12-02-2008, 17:02	#5
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't. my k800 has

12-02-2008, 17:45	#6
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by chyllyphylly my k800 has i expect we have different standards

12-02-2008, 17:59	#7
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya i expect we have different standards There was a comparative review of 5Megapixel compact cameras and 5 Megapixel camera phones last year. Guess which had the better lens and best picture quality? Yep, camera phones. In particular the Nokia N95 came top. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone with an interest in photography. The compact camera market reached saturation some time ago. The impetus to innovate moved to the camera phone market. And you get to sell them a new one next year!

12-02-2008, 18:05	#8
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	i use an slr so i supposed i'm used to that level of quality. prking: were the compacts in that comparison any good? actually if that comparison is online i'd love to see the various shots.

12-02-2008, 19:03	#9
The Phazer Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,213	I'm quite happy with mine, but I'd certainly agree the camera is poor by phone standards, and the lack of any light/flash is crippling for it. Phazer

12-02-2008, 21:04	#10
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	When I have images or videos on my phone, where they've been pre-loaded by me or taken by my 5 Megapixel Camera - I like to be able to Bluetooth them to people in the room. Unfortunately, you can't do that with an iphone. Some have said it may come one day but IMHO - that's not good enough. It also may never come. Ever. In relation to the Original Posters' overall question; thanks to software such as JoikuSpot, it's now possible to connect an Ipod touch to a traditional, higher specification phone (any Nokia running S60 v3) using WiFi and enjoy 3.5G Safari Web Surfing using a higher capacity ipod without having to pay a one off purchase premium and a subsequent 18 month contract to o2 for 2.75G s-l-o-w browsing.

12-02-2008, 21:28	#11
TheSoulBrother Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,940	The camera could be better but its fine for what it is - a phone camera. If I am going on holiday, to a concert, football match, carnival or what have you I will carry a proper camera with me. For everything else it does the job adequately. Take a look at photos taken with the iPhone on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/cameras/apple/iphone/

12-02-2008, 23:57	#12
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	Quote: Originally Posted by Mr Cable In relation to the Original Posters' overall question; thanks to software such as JoikuSpot, it's now possible to connect an Ipod touch to a traditional, higher specification phone (any Nokia running S60 v3) using WiFi and enjoy 3.5G Safari Web Surfing using a higher capacity ipod without having to pay a one off purchase premium and a subsequent 18 month contract to o2 for 2.75G s-l-o-w browsing. so your nokia becomes a wifi router?

13-02-2008, 01:57	#13
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Yep, certainly does. http://www.joikuspot.com/ has the details. Free download too. It's in Beta the moment, but the only problem I've had with it so far is the lack of encryption.

13-02-2008, 05:05	#14
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by Sananda Maitreya no, i've never considered buying a phone based on its camera. it would be nice if there were such a thing as phone with a decent compact camera in it, but there isn't. I agree, no one even slightly serious, or caring about photography would use a phone as their main camera. I use my phone cam to snap a pic of the bus timetable rather than writing it down, but I'd never dream of taking my holiday pics etc on it. I don't think Apple ever intended the iPhone cam to compare to SLRs etc. I also agree, even the cheapest digitial-cam is better than a camera-phone if you compare a 5mpxel sony/cannon jobby they will always look better than the N95 etc. as they have better lenses etc. It's not just the megapixels that count.

13-02-2008, 05:06	#15
chocolate_boy Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire Posts: 2,118	Quote: Originally Posted by prking There was a comparative review of 5Megapixel compact cameras and 5 Megapixel camera phones last year. Guess which had the better lens and best picture quality? Yep, camera phones. In particular the Nokia N95 came top. Source? Everything I have read has said the opposite.

13-02-2008, 13:07	#16
!!11oneone Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,807	The N95's camera is better than my old compact camera. I'd never use it for 'photography' like I use my Fujifilm bridge camera on holiday etc. But it's taken some great shots out and about and when I don't want to carry a camera. It's more than good enough for night out, kids in the park, friends in the pub, just spotted something interesting type shots and rivals the smaller compact cameras.

13-02-2008, 13:09	#17
!!11oneone Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,807	Here's an article comparing an N95, an N93 and a Canon SLR: http://www.symbian-freak.com/reviews...n93_vs_10d.htm

13-02-2008, 15:06	#18
Mr Cable Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 2,868	Quote: Originally Posted by !!11oneone ....But it's taken some great shots out and about and when I don't want to carry a camera. It's more than good enough for night out, kids in the park, friends in the pub, just spotted something interesting type shots... Exactly! Isn't this the point of Camera Phones in the first place?!? I still have a 'proper' Camera but I'd never dream of taking it with me everywhere I go! It's just nice to know if I do want to make the effort of taking a picture of something while I'm out, I'll be able to make out what it's of. And for me, that involves having something with a LED or Flash for night time or indoor shots.

13-02-2008, 15:10	#19
!!11oneone Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,807	Indeed. And I've taken some wonderful shots (including normally difficult sunsets, Christmas lantern parades etc) on my N95 that my previous Samsung 4MP camera wouldn't have managed. I was a snob about camera phones until I got my N95.

15-02-2008, 17:05	#20
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	well this weekend will see if i made the right decision. I've borrowed a fully activated iphone for the weekend. Will see if it's for me

17-02-2008, 22:40	#21
bingledee Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 965	hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory...

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17-02-2008, 23:15	#22
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by bingledee hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory... Which is why they have launched a 16gb model.

18-02-2008, 11:30	#23
chyllyphylly Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845	Quote: Originally Posted by bingledee hey, how did the iphone go over the weekend, I hear they can all be hacked now so was tempted to get one.... then again 8gb isn't a load of memory... ok my thoughts of the iphone..... Camera - Terrible Web browsing - Amazing (hey I was brought up on wap lol) Music playing - brilliant BUT my CX300 earphones dont fit in it. I liked the weather function, the keyboard was easy for me to use. I just kept playing with the iphone on the bus and train. So do I still want it? Hell yeah. Sacrifice a decent camera for Internet on the move, a music player, and a large screen to watch those TV programs/movies I download. Am I going to get one? If I need a new ipod, i think i will. As you can see i am firmly STILL on the fence

18-02-2008, 15:24	#24
the_kop_2 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 377	I've just bought one on ebay today, I'll be giving it a week or my sis will take it off me..i'll be giving my thoughts about it from tmrw onwards!

18-02-2008, 16:38	#25
Sananda Maitreya Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,687	Quote: Originally Posted by chyllyphylly Music playing - brilliant BUT my CX300 earphones dont fit in it. there's an adapter.