which network for PAYG?

Talizman · 13-02-2008, 17:51

Guys I need your expert opinions. I text a lot....erm a heck of a lot, so I'm happy to use Orange's offer of 1000 texts a month if I top up by £30 in a month. Thing is though, I tend to call mobile numbers quite a bit. At the moment their tariff means I pay 15p per minute for them.

I was thinking of going to o2 as they'd give me unlimited texts for £30 a month and their tariff is 25ppm for the first 3 minutes then 5p the rest of the day. I was all ready to jump to o2 when I realised that rate only applies to landline and o2 number, not other networks.

So what else is out there? If I text loads and want to keep call costs to other networks as low as I can, are there any other network offers out there to beat Orange?

Ricardodaforce · 13-02-2008, 18:50

Just to clarify the bonus texts offer on Orange Speak Easy when topping up by £30/month is not 1000 bonus texts, it's unlimited. Have you checked out the Dolphin 15 Sim Only? 150 x-net mins a month, 300 texts and unlimited evening and weekend texts.

Lawe13 · 13-02-2008, 19:04

Talizman ring 0800 079 0435 and tell them you are currently on PAYG but want to leave as you have seen another networks offer (Quote the O2 one).

If you push hard enough you can get the Dolphin 35 which is 600 Xnet Mins and Unlimited Texts for £21.50. Bargain.

Talizman · 13-02-2008, 21:19

I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff.

takot · 14-02-2008, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talizman

I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff.

just a question, have u ever been on a contract?

Lawe13 · 14-02-2008, 02:12

Then for what you need as far as I'm aware Orange wins hands down.

£30 per month gives you Unlimited Texts and 15pm flat rate means at least you'll always know what you are paying.

Talizman · 14-02-2008, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by takot

just a question, have u ever been on a contract?

Yes I have.

poppasmurf · 14-02-2008, 16:16

Virgin Mobile do a 300/300 (300 minutes and 300 texts each month) on a PAYG Sim offer for £10 per month, but you have to have another Virgin Service such as broadband or TV to be accepted.

TheBigM · 14-02-2008, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talizman

I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff.

It may help if we can know why you want to be on PAYG rather than pay monthly.

If it is because you would otherwise spend way too much as you wouldn't realise then T-mobile's U-fix can help limit your spending.

If it is because you don't like being tied down for 12 to 18 months, you can get sim only pay monthly tariffs that have no contract, just 30 days notice required.

Once you start spending the kind of money that you are, contracts start becoming much better value for money, you can even get good phones - either keep them or sell them.

T-Mobile offer Flext 35 for £30/month for 18 months.

Give you a top phone for free e.g. N95 or LG Viewty, and you get £180 "credit" each month equivalent to 1800 texts or 900 minutes or any combination of the two.

wernroe · 14-02-2008, 22:51

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Originally Posted by TheBigM

It may help if we can know why you want to be on PAYG rather than pay monthly.

Thanks, but I won't be going in to why I don't want a contract. It has to be PAYG.

Ricardodaforce · 14-02-2008, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by wernroe

Thanks, but I won't be going in to why I don't want a contract. It has to be PAYG.

If you don't want a contract why don't you condider a SIMO?

wernroe · 15-02-2008, 00:34

What's a SIMO?

Ricardodaforce · 15-02-2008, 06:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by wernroe

What's a SIMO?

A SIM Only deal. No long contract, much better value for money that PAYG.

Glasgow Girl · 15-02-2008, 08:44

I'm the same as you - I text constantly. I'm on O2 PAYG. If you put in £30 or more per month, you get unlimited texts. What about going onto www.pricerunner.co.uk. I have used that a few times and I'm sure there is a mobile phone section.

Talizman · 15-02-2008, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

A SIM Only deal. No long contract, much better value for money that PAYG.

I'd still rather a PAYG deal though.

Ricardodaforce · 15-02-2008, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talizman

I'd still rather a PAYG deal though.

Would you prefer a £10 note to a £50 note too?

on the air · 15-02-2008, 11:09

The SIMO do not have inclusive web browsing, so for £25 you may get 600 minutes, unlimited texts but then you have to buy web browsing on top of that. However with PAYG, I can top up £30 and use my credit to pay for the web, so for someone who uses just web and text, PAYG is still the better option.

Talizman · 15-02-2008, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

Would you prefer a £10 note to a £50 note too?

No need to be funny about it, there are personal reasons why I don't anything other than PAYG and they are none of your business. Go take your attitude somewhere else.

Talizman · 15-02-2008, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by on the air

The SIMO do not have inclusive web browsing, so for £25 you may get 600 minutes, unlimited texts but then you have to buy web browsing on top of that. However with PAYG, I can top up £30 and use my credit to pay for the web, so for someone who uses just web and text, PAYG is still the better option.

Thank you. Ricardo did you get that?

superman775 · 15-02-2008, 11:20

i have got vodafone pay as you orange pay as you go and i got o2 line rental. i am thinking to get rid off orange and keep o2 pay as you go. i might try £25 per month sim only .

Ricardodaforce · 15-02-2008, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talizman

Thank you. Ricardo did you get that?

I sure did. Don't recall you saying that you need it for data though. You said you needed it for texting. I am merely pointing out that SIMO gives you much better value for money.
Oh and the credit check is not as harsh either.

Talizman · 15-02-2008, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

I sure did. Don't recall you saying that you need it for data though. You said you needed it for texting. I am merely pointing out that SIMO gives you much better value for money.
Oh and the credit check is not as harsh either.

Thanks, but I'll decide what's better value for money for me, not you. And I'm really impressed you knew my reason for not wanting a contract was due to the credit check!

Only, it's nothing to do with having a credit check.

I realise that part of the requirement for working in phone shops is to decide what the customer wants without bothering to know their needs, but really, trust me when I say I know my own needs better than you do.

I've stated a few times now that I want a PAYG suggestion. If I wanted a sim-only deal, I'd have asked about them.

Ricardodaforce · 15-02-2008, 14:52

Value for money is not about opinion, it is about fact.

If you top up £30 a month as a PAYG customer you'd get unlimited texts and enough credit to make 200 mins of calls (200 x 15p/min = £30)

If you had a £25 SIMO you'd get 600 minutes and unlimited texts.

So for £5 a month LESS you'd get an extra 400 minutes. I can't see how that can't be seen as better value for money.

Talizman · 15-02-2008, 17:13

As is usual for most mobile phone salesmen, you don't know my circumstances but have tried to make up my mind for me. You don't work for phones4u by any chance? That's usually their tactic.

I've made it clear what I want, for the right PAYG deal. If I wanted to know more about contract offers, I'd have asked.

Lawe13 · 15-02-2008, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talizman

As is usual for most mobile phone salesmen, you don't know my circumstances but have tried to make up my mind for me. You don't work for phones4u by any chance? That's usually their tactic.

I've made it clear what I want, for the right PAYG deal. If I wanted to know more about contract offers, I'd have asked.

Just to let you know that Orange's sales mantra is "Sales Through Service". Which means we are not sellers that take orders, nor are we the pushy salesman. We do a lot of training on getting the customer to do 80% of talking on a call, as only then by listening can we realise their needs.

Yes I know that sometimes you get the pushy salesmen ala P4U, but sometimes customers do need a bit of direction in which way to travel.

There's nothing wrong in trying to convert a PAYG into a PAYM, but the first no should be where you stop. After that you lose the customer due to them being annoyed. Give the customer what they want and need and they will come back for more.

Glad you didn't generalise all mobile phone salesmen in that statement, and to be fair not all P4U will be like that either, there are very decent good salesmen out there in the industry too.

13-02-2008, 17:51	#1
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	which network for PAYG? Guys I need your expert opinions. I text a lot....erm a heck of a lot, so I'm happy to use Orange's offer of 1000 texts a month if I top up by £30 in a month. Thing is though, I tend to call mobile numbers quite a bit. At the moment their tariff means I pay 15p per minute for them. I was thinking of going to o2 as they'd give me unlimited texts for £30 a month and their tariff is 25ppm for the first 3 minutes then 5p the rest of the day. I was all ready to jump to o2 when I realised that rate only applies to landline and o2 number, not other networks. So what else is out there? If I text loads and want to keep call costs to other networks as low as I can, are there any other network offers out there to beat Orange?

13-02-2008, 18:50	#2
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Just to clarify the bonus texts offer on Orange Speak Easy when topping up by £30/month is not 1000 bonus texts, it's unlimited. Have you checked out the Dolphin 15 Sim Only? 150 x-net mins a month, 300 texts and unlimited evening and weekend texts.

13-02-2008, 19:04	#3
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Talizman ring 0800 079 0435 and tell them you are currently on PAYG but want to leave as you have seen another networks offer (Quote the O2 one). If you push hard enough you can get the Dolphin 35 which is 600 Xnet Mins and Unlimited Texts for £21.50. Bargain.

13-02-2008, 21:19	#4
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff.

14-02-2008, 00:01	#5
takot Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 359	Quote: Originally Posted by Talizman I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff. just a question, have u ever been on a contract?

14-02-2008, 02:12	#6
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Then for what you need as far as I'm aware Orange wins hands down. £30 per month gives you Unlimited Texts and 15pm flat rate means at least you'll always know what you are paying.

14-02-2008, 10:20	#7
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	Quote: Originally Posted by takot just a question, have u ever been on a contract? Yes I have.

14-02-2008, 16:16	#8
poppasmurf Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Arley, Worcs Posts: 1,334	Virgin Mobile do a 300/300 (300 minutes and 300 texts each month) on a PAYG Sim offer for £10 per month, but you have to have another Virgin Service such as broadband or TV to be accepted.

14-02-2008, 22:33	#9
TheBigM Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: moon Posts: 12,983	Quote: Originally Posted by Talizman I forgot to mention I'm a PAYG customer and want to stay that way - contracts don't interest me. So it needs to be a PAYG tariff. It may help if we can know why you want to be on PAYG rather than pay monthly. If it is because you would otherwise spend way too much as you wouldn't realise then T-mobile's U-fix can help limit your spending. If it is because you don't like being tied down for 12 to 18 months, you can get sim only pay monthly tariffs that have no contract, just 30 days notice required. Once you start spending the kind of money that you are, contracts start becoming much better value for money, you can even get good phones - either keep them or sell them. T-Mobile offer Flext 35 for £30/month for 18 months. Give you a top phone for free e.g. N95 or LG Viewty, and you get £180 "credit" each month equivalent to 1800 texts or 900 minutes or any combination of the two.

14-02-2008, 22:51	#10
wernroe Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 348	Quote: Originally Posted by TheBigM It may help if we can know why you want to be on PAYG rather than pay monthly. Thanks, but I won't be going in to why I don't want a contract. It has to be PAYG.

14-02-2008, 22:54	#11
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by wernroe Thanks, but I won't be going in to why I don't want a contract. It has to be PAYG. If you don't want a contract why don't you condider a SIMO?

15-02-2008, 00:34	#12
wernroe Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 348	What's a SIMO?

15-02-2008, 06:00	#13
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by wernroe What's a SIMO? A SIM Only deal. No long contract, much better value for money that PAYG.

15-02-2008, 08:44	#14
Glasgow Girl Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In the depths of beyond Posts: 446	I'm the same as you - I text constantly. I'm on O2 PAYG. If you put in £30 or more per month, you get unlimited texts. What about going onto www.pricerunner.co.uk. I have used that a few times and I'm sure there is a mobile phone section.

15-02-2008, 10:01	#15
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce A SIM Only deal. No long contract, much better value for money that PAYG. I'd still rather a PAYG deal though.

15-02-2008, 10:05	#16
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by Talizman I'd still rather a PAYG deal though. Would you prefer a £10 note to a £50 note too?

15-02-2008, 11:09	#17
on the air Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,028	The SIMO do not have inclusive web browsing, so for £25 you may get 600 minutes, unlimited texts but then you have to buy web browsing on top of that. However with PAYG, I can top up £30 and use my credit to pay for the web, so for someone who uses just web and text, PAYG is still the better option.

15-02-2008, 11:13	#18
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce Would you prefer a £10 note to a £50 note too? No need to be funny about it, there are personal reasons why I don't anything other than PAYG and they are none of your business. Go take your attitude somewhere else.

15-02-2008, 11:13	#19
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	Quote: Originally Posted by on the air The SIMO do not have inclusive web browsing, so for £25 you may get 600 minutes, unlimited texts but then you have to buy web browsing on top of that. However with PAYG, I can top up £30 and use my credit to pay for the web, so for someone who uses just web and text, PAYG is still the better option. Thank you. Ricardo did you get that?

15-02-2008, 11:20	#20
superman775 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: leicester Posts: 1,943	i have got vodafone pay as you orange pay as you go and i got o2 line rental. i am thinking to get rid off orange and keep o2 pay as you go. i might try £25 per month sim only .

15-02-2008, 13:44	#21
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Quote: Originally Posted by Talizman Thank you. Ricardo did you get that? I sure did. Don't recall you saying that you need it for data though. You said you needed it for texting. I am merely pointing out that SIMO gives you much better value for money. Oh and the credit check is not as harsh either.

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15-02-2008, 14:09	#22
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	Quote: Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce I sure did. Don't recall you saying that you need it for data though. You said you needed it for texting. I am merely pointing out that SIMO gives you much better value for money. Oh and the credit check is not as harsh either. Thanks, but I'll decide what's better value for money for me, not you. And I'm really impressed you knew my reason for not wanting a contract was due to the credit check! Only, it's nothing to do with having a credit check. I realise that part of the requirement for working in phone shops is to decide what the customer wants without bothering to know their needs, but really, trust me when I say I know my own needs better than you do. I've stated a few times now that I want a PAYG suggestion. If I wanted a sim-only deal, I'd have asked about them.

15-02-2008, 14:52	#23
Ricardodaforce Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alacant Posts: 7,773	Value for money is not about opinion, it is about fact. If you top up £30 a month as a PAYG customer you'd get unlimited texts and enough credit to make 200 mins of calls (200 x 15p/min = £30) If you had a £25 SIMO you'd get 600 minutes and unlimited texts. So for £5 a month LESS you'd get an extra 400 minutes. I can't see how that can't be seen as better value for money.

15-02-2008, 17:13	#24
Talizman Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a journey Posts: 1,901	As is usual for most mobile phone salesmen, you don't know my circumstances but have tried to make up my mind for me. You don't work for phones4u by any chance? That's usually their tactic. I've made it clear what I want, for the right PAYG deal. If I wanted to know more about contract offers, I'd have asked.

15-02-2008, 18:55	#25
Lawe13 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 869	Quote: Originally Posted by Talizman As is usual for most mobile phone salesmen, you don't know my circumstances but have tried to make up my mind for me. You don't work for phones4u by any chance? That's usually their tactic. I've made it clear what I want, for the right PAYG deal. If I wanted to know more about contract offers, I'd have asked. Just to let you know that Orange's sales mantra is "Sales Through Service". Which means we are not sellers that take orders, nor are we the pushy salesman. We do a lot of training on getting the customer to do 80% of talking on a call, as only then by listening can we realise their needs. Yes I know that sometimes you get the pushy salesmen ala P4U, but sometimes customers do need a bit of direction in which way to travel. There's nothing wrong in trying to convert a PAYG into a PAYM, but the first no should be where you stop. After that you lose the customer due to them being annoyed. Give the customer what they want and need and they will come back for more. Glad you didn't generalise all mobile phone salesmen in that statement, and to be fair not all P4U will be like that either, there are very decent good salesmen out there in the industry too.