Head of Household

They could bring back the live Saturday task and make the winner HoH. That's person's nominations for the next round could then count double.


Power of Veto

Do this on Monday night after nominations have been revealed. Everyone except the HoH can take part. The winner then has a choice. They can choose to remove one HMs set of nominations from the total

I don't think we should have the veto, but HOH would be good but not the same power. The nominations should still take place as normal but then after they are announced the HOH has the power to take somebody off and replace them if they so wish.

Also allow nomination discussion.

With you 100% on that one

I definitely think there shouldbe a competition each week to recieve a nomination bonus, eg a double vote or automatically putting one up. Also a more US style house would be nice.

Personally I thought that the House on BB9 was just about the worst thing. It looked far too spacious

The camera positions are spot on though. You always feel close to the hg and you don't get a cameraman zoomed in on them from the other side of the room/house.

the BBUS house is a bit 'OC', but its in keeping with the soap-opera feel of the show.

i like it.

I'd like the HOH and veto, and also nomination discussions...it'd be a lifeline for the big characters to avoid our stupid GB public who evict all the interesting people over the dull ones.

I want nothing -- and I mean absolutely nothing -- from BB US in the UK version.

I especially dislike head of household, power of veto, and nomination discussions.

I want nothing to do with a BB that has a house full of tactical gameplayers.

So you prefer a house full of z-list fame hunting morons?

I think they should make the UK house more like the US house. Their house looks like a home to me - ours looks like a studio.

The BBUSA house IS a STUDIO!!

Ours is a proper built house. The US series is built in a studio, other TV shows are filmed in studios nearby.

Ours is in a studio too, near the dancing on ice one

Definetly not the couples idea or the stupid casting tricks( enemies etc. )
Thats one thing bbuk handes better then bbus when the aratas were in the house they were never a "shocking twist" they were just normal hms

Ours is in a designated built house, with just the house inside. Thier house has that awful fake, front exterior where Chenbot operates from.

we need to have nomination discussions without it leaves housemates to work out cringing ways of forming alliances and unnecessary bitching that is pointless to the viewer. Its a game show for money and they cant speak about it its a farce.

For any BBUS ideas to work on BBUK, the audience would have to completely change their way of watching, and judging housemate behaviour.

Currently, the British public has a strange obsession with "being genuine". They only like HMs who are so simple that they wear their hearts on their sleeves. Brian and Samanda, etc.

Any HMs who have enough intelligence to be able to moderate their personalities (ie. anyone with the sense to think before speaking, or choose what to say -- ie. all normal people) are hated. Considered "fake" and "two-faced", ripe for booing.

That's why gameplay never works. That's why game-players are the "evil" characters. You have to be a retarded simpleton like Brian Belo, because that's the only personality the British public trusts as "genuine".

Amen.

I really don't think the UK BB fans could ever take to the American style of the show...and while I would like to see the discussion of nominations allowed it just wouldn't work, because as long as the public gets to decide who leave any one perceived as 'playing the game' would be hated. They'd either have to go all out with the American format (I wouldn't like this to happen) or not at all imho.

I think they could use it as like a one/two week twist, but not incorporate it permanently.

For the record, I hated both Samanda and Brian.

I've heard this argument a lot but I don't think it would be true if the show was marketed and promoted as a Game Play Series. If the aim of the show was to play the game then the viewers would be more accepting to support the game players. If the presenters on the spin-off shows always made it about who's playing the game the best and that that is the point of the show then I think viewers would get into it.

So why do you think Survivor did so badly over here if the audience can accept the concept of gameplaying?

The same reason why Big Brother Season 1 failed in the USA, the current climate wasn't right for it.

When Big Brother Season 1 launched in the USA with the same format that our Big Brother has, it flopped and this was due to the huge success of Survivor that had launched just a few months before. Survivor was all about game play and voting each other off, America weren't use to the public voting system on a reality show, so when Big Brother came along people didn't really get into it because Survivor was the BIG show of the moment.

Hence why Season 2 of Big Brother changed it's format to be more like Survivor, adding in the game play element and losing the public vote.

The same applies to the UK but in reverse. Big Brother launched first in 2000 and it had the public vote, while ratings weren't huge people go into it enough for it to garner a second series.

Survivor UK didn't launch until just after Big Brother 2. So the game play format and lack of public vote didn't fit in with the current success of Big Brother, plus other public vote orientated shows like Pop Idol also around at the time. In the current climate the game play show didn't work, just like in the USA where the public vote show didn't work.

Fast-foward to where we are today and I believe things would be very different. In America the massive success of public vote shows like American Idol and Dancing With The Stars shows that the public have got a grip over the public voting system and who's to say that if Big Brother had launched only a couple of years ago with our format, it would have been a huge success in the USA.

And here in the UK at a time when phone-line scandals are running wild, the people are starting to distrust public voting systems. Also in regards to Big Brother, many fans are tired of the blatant manipulation by the producers, also the format has become very stale. I think many people would welcome a change in the format and would readily accept a game play orientated Big Brother if that was the theme.

I wouldn't totally get rid of the public vote in our Big Brother, but I'd add stuff like letting them discuss nominations and having a HOH comp so that housemates can really fight to stay in the house.

And by the way the first series of Survivor UK got higher ratings than any other reality show on at the time, including Big Brother.

Well thought out and accurate post.

Only thing I would take from BB USA to BB UK would be to allow the UK contestants to talk about nomos. Would be interesting to see how that would work along with the public vote.

Other than that, I think both versions of the show are great.

By the way, does mean there'll be no BB USA this summer? I'm still hoping for some kind of US/UK crossover.

You make some interesting points.

I'm not sure it is as simple as the show that came out first setting the climate for what would be succesful/accepted by the audience. I think it goes deeper than that and has a lot to do with the US and UK psyche.

In the US, winning is seen as a 'good thing' [tm]. Over here however, there is still a sense that winning is voulgar and how you play the game is far more important. In the US you are a good winner because you have done something deserving of winning (surviving, winning, outsmarting, etc.), where as in the UK, a good winner is someone who is worthy, who played fair, who didn't cheat.

Whilst that isn't true of everybody, I think in general it still holds true for the majority of people in the US/UK, and as such, I don't think the shows will ever do as well in the opposite country.


Yes, but by ITV standards it didn't do well, where as by Ch4 standards, BB went through the roof. Sad, because I loved Survivor.

Personally, I still think there is room for both a UK style and US style BB to be shown here, but I wouldn't like to see one replace the other, or some hybrid of the two.