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Old 18-02-2008, 17:20
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I'm off work all this week and I have been bought my PS3 this morning plus a £70 HDMI cable and I have bought 1 movie on blu-ray to test it out. (Namely Harry Potter & The Goblet Of Fire).

I am totally!!! Blown away the quality and it is for sure 'Better' than the standard DVD (upscaled) I have tried both out and the blu-ray is substantially a better picture. Even without Blu-Ray the PS3 is a top grade machine for upscaling standard DVD. (Better than the £60 samsung machine I've got). I have been here trying many of my discs out. Some work better than others. With Blu-Ray you do have to get quite far away to notice. Too close and it just looks the same as normal DVD.

To begin with I was disappointed with how the DVD's were looking (rather bad). Then I realised to have to toggle with the settings and turn upscalling on and set to 'Max' and also set it to RGB but once I'd done that that was me happy. I've only got the 1 blu-ray disc at present and I’ve spent every bit of my spare cash this morning. So will have to wait until I'm paid again before getting more discs to try out.

I have also tried it with a £8 HDMI cable I got from play.com and then again with the £70 one I bought today in Maplins (to test), and I’m sorry but to those of you who say the pricey HDMI leads make no difference because it’s digital. You’re wrong! It does
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Old 18-02-2008, 17:45
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I have also tried it with a £8 HDMI cable I got from play.com and then again with the £70 one I bought today in Maplins (to test), and I’m sorry but to those of you who say the pricey HDMI leads make no difference because it’s digital. You’re wrong! It does
What's that saying?...oh yeah, "A fool and his money"
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Old 18-02-2008, 17:56
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I have also tried it with a £8 HDMI cable I got from play.com and then again with the £70 one I bought today in Maplins (to test), and I’m sorry but to those of you who say the pricey HDMI leads make no difference because it’s digital. You’re wrong! It does




Obviously there are differences in construction, you may just had a poor "cheap" cable and a decent yet vastly over priced one from Maplins.

In what way was the £8 cable lacking which led you to spend £70 on another one?
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Old 18-02-2008, 18:04
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In what way was the £8 cable lacking which led you to spend £70 on another one?
Well the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable with it. I needed to buy one for it anyway, and a guy I work with swore blind this lead was dog’s b.... lead to get for blu-ray playback (via PS3). So risked the high amount and was going to take it back for a cheaper one if I didn't feel it was worth all the money. The £7 one is the one I use on my other Samsung player I just tried it on the PS3 as well to get a comparison with the expensive one.

Oh it was £70 because needed a 3 metre cable for it too reach. It was only £45 for a 1.5 metre one but that wasn't long enough.
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Old 18-02-2008, 18:16
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Well the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable with it. I needed to buy one for it anyway, and a guy I work with swore blind this lead was dog’s b.... lead to get for blu-ray playback (via PS3). So risked the high amount and was going to take it back for a cheaper one if I didn't feel it was worth all the money. The £7 one is the one I use on my other Samsung player I just tried it on the PS3 as well to get a comparison with the expensive one.

Oh it was £70 because needed a 3 metre cable for it too reach. It was only £45 for a 1.5 metre one but that wasn't long enough.




Right, so what was the difference can you put it into words?
I know that's difficult, you know when an image looks better but explaining it to someone who can't see it is difficult

It's accepted that the longer the HDMI cable run the more build quality and materials can affect the overall performance.
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Old 18-02-2008, 18:24
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I have also tried it with a £8 HDMI cable I got from play.com and then again with the £70 one I bought today in Maplins (to test), and I’m sorry but to those of you who say the pricey HDMI leads make no difference because it’s digital. You’re wrong! It does
Please do educate us on how it is better besides build quality.....Explain yourself if u don't mind.

What inch tv you using to not really notice the difference between dvd and bluray when up close?
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Old 18-02-2008, 18:32
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I have tried every single variable today for the record. Also bare in mind I've only got the one blu-ray disc at the moment and I did most of my diagnostic tests using the same movie. Harry Potter & The Globet of fire, 1, Blu-Ray and 1, standard DVD copy.


Now with the blu-ray itself it didn't make a lot of difference between the 2 leads. F**king amazing quality period, Only very minimal difference. The £70 lead did over shine the £7 a lot with DVD upscalling. It's hard to describe but the £70 gave even greater lush colours and with the £7 one the picture was much more 'fuzzy'. I mean the £7 one was still a hell of an improvement over a scart lead (also checked that again) but the £70 one was still EVEN better still.

That's the best I can describe it.


What inch tv you using to not really notice the difference between dvd and bluray when up close?
32" Sony Bravia
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Old 18-02-2008, 22:36
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I'm suprised at Maplin for trying to sell £70 hdmi cable, it's usually Comet who do this and then try and convince you that there's a difference to be seen! It seems that once the suguestion is out there a few people start seeing it! They even tried it on with a Toslink cable once! I'm also supprised you didn't get more stick taken out of you for coming on here and saying that.
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Old 18-02-2008, 22:39
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Well the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable with it. I needed to buy one for it anyway, and a guy I work with swore blind this lead was dog’s b.... lead to get for blu-ray playback (via PS3). So risked the high amount and was going to take it back for a cheaper one if I didn't feel it was worth all the money. The £7 one is the one I use on my other Samsung player I just tried it on the PS3 as well to get a comparison with the expensive one.

Oh it was £70 because needed a 3 metre cable for it too reach. It was only £45 for a 1.5 metre one but that wasn't long enough.
When I got my PS3 from Amazon they were giving away a £15 HDMI lead with it.

I've switched it over with a £6 I got aswell as the one supplied with Sky HD and there seems to be no difference whatsoever
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Old 18-02-2008, 22:42
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I'm off work all this week and I have been bought my PS3 this morning plus a £70 HDMI cable and I have bought 1 movie on blu-ray to test it out. (Namely Harry Potter & The Goblet Of Fire).

I am totally!!! Blown away the quality and it is for sure 'Better' than the standard DVD (upscaled) I have tried both out and the blu-ray is substantially a better picture. Even without Blu-Ray the PS3 is a top grade machine for upscaling standard DVD. (Better than the £60 samsung machine I've got). I have been here trying many of my discs out. Some work better than others. With Blu-Ray you do have to get quite far away to notice. Too close and it just looks the same as normal DVD.

To begin with I was disappointed with how the DVD's were looking (rather bad). Then I realised to have to toggle with the settings and turn upscalling on and set to 'Max' and also set it to RGB but once I'd done that that was me happy. I've only got the 1 blu-ray disc at present and I’ve spent every bit of my spare cash this morning. So will have to wait until I'm paid again before getting more discs to try out.

I have also tried it with a £8 HDMI cable I got from play.com and then again with the £70 one I bought today in Maplins (to test), and I’m sorry but to those of you who say the pricey HDMI leads make no difference because it’s digital. You’re wrong! It does
Why did you need to set the PS3 to RGB when you are watching via HDMI?

If upscaling is on RGB should not make a difference when viewing via the HDMI connection
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Old 19-02-2008, 00:46
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To begin with I was disappointed with how the DVD's were looking (rather bad). Then I realised to have to toggle with the settings and turn upscalling on and set to 'Max'
Are you aware that this setting will display at full screen by changing the proportions and stretching the image.

If you have a 1080p display the recomended setting would be 'Double Scale'.

Native resolution below 1080p e.g 768/720 recommended setting is 'Normal'.

Why did you need to set the PS3 to RGB when you are watching via HDMI?

If upscaling is on RGB should not make a difference when viewing via the HDMI connection
From the top of my head - When HDMI is selected you have 3 options Automatic, RGB, YPB/CB PR/CR.
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Old 19-02-2008, 17:00
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Are you aware that this setting will display at full screen by changing the proportions and stretching the image. If you have a 1080p display the recomended setting would be 'Double Scale'.
It's 1080i and 'max' gave a better picture over 'Double scale' I messed around a lot to try out everything. I've got a nerve coming here saying it, and I do apolgise for sounding arrogrant, but I'm merely saying with 'DVD upscalling' on PS3, a £70 lead is giving me a better picture than a £7 one. I don't think it's just my head.
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Old 19-02-2008, 18:38
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Only £45 for a 1.5m?!?

I have one ridiculously overpriced QED cable and 3 £2.99 cables off eBay. The QED is undoubtedly better made, but there is absolutely no difference in performance. Nor can there be. The "laws" of analogue cables go out the window when talking about digital signals.
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Old 19-02-2008, 18:51
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Wishes he'd keaped his bloody big trap shut

It made no difference with blu-ray, only with DVD

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This is a QED
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Old 19-02-2008, 19:02
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You''ll learn


Bottom line, you can see a difference so the cost was worth it.
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Old 19-02-2008, 20:56
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Are you aware that this setting will display at full screen by changing the proportions and stretching the image.

If you have a 1080p display the recomended setting would be 'Double Scale'.

Native resolution below 1080p e.g 768/720 recommended setting is 'Normal'.

From the top of my head - When HDMI is selected you have 3 options Automatic, RGB, YPB/CB PR/CR.
I have my dvd upscaling set to "normal".

Everything is upscaled to 1080p and it seemed the only way for the PS3 to display 4:3 material in the correct ratio automatically.

IIRC "double scale" stretched 4:3 into 16:9
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Old 20-02-2008, 17:46
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It made no difference with blu-ray, only with DVD



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As I said, I've got one too.

I've also got some very expensive analogue cables, so I totally get why people fall for it with HDMI/Optical interconnects.
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Old 20-02-2008, 17:49
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By the way, on the PS3 I find that DVD and PS2 game upscaling makes the PS3 MUCH louder (fan noise). Worth bearing in mind if, like me, you find the PS3 just that bit too noisy for non-game uses.
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