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Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Why vote for her? I thought the Brits used to be about proper music and rewarding talent?

I wouldn't vote for her if she was the only one in it! In fact, the only 'singer' in the world!

Thanks for letting me know though - now I know I don't need to watch the Brits, as it'll have as much appeal to me as a smack in the eye.
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Just 600,000? I think you'll find that 600,000 does equal platinum status , and having sold 600,000 it was already the highest selling single of the year. 600,000 isn't ordinary by any stretch of the imagination.

Just 600,000 , lol

She may be Leona "Loser" now but we'll see tomorrow night who the losers are and who the winners are ”

Any fan of real music won't be watching this bilge, so it really doesn't count for anything.
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by phillip2:
“^^ allways someone to spoil it,if it was ''dire'' a word everyone uses here that does my head in,it wouldnt of been number 1 for 7 weeks.”

It's 'always' and 'wouldn't have' by the way. Don't write the way you speak.

Anyway, so being No. 1 for an eternity and driving everyone insane in the process means it must be a good single does it?

I present the evidence for the prosecution:

Bryan Adams - Everything I do - No. 1 for 16 weeks
Wet Wet Wet - Love is all Around - 15 weeks
Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You - 10 weeks

What do these records and Leona's have in common? They are all uninspired, insipid crowd-pleasers and their popularity has been boosted by either film or TV.

Leona has a good voice, but she has a terrible singing style. That Whitney style warbling sounds horrendous. Just hold a God-damned note can you? And she's just so dull.

I don't mean to patronise anyone, but I think those that are defending Leona probably don't know much about music.

The sooner people get tired of X Idol The Rival Factor or whatever the better. These ridiculous talent contests are finishing off an already moribund industry. I'm so sick of the bean-counters that run the music business. I'll carry on using P2P so I don't have to support the greedy b******s. I reckon they owe me several thousand pounds after over-charging on CDs all these years anyway, and I refuse to provide them with money so they can promote whatever awful crap they think will make them even more rich, whilst they bankrupt single mothers in the courts because they shared a couple of songs on the internet.
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by yossarian:
“It's 'always' and 'wouldn't have' by the way. Don't write the way you speak.

Anyway, so being No. 1 for an eternity and driving everyone insane in the process means it must be a good single does it?

I present the evidence for the prosecution:

Bryan Adams - Everything I do - No. 1 for 16 weeks
Wet Wet Wet - Love is all Around - 15 weeks
Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You - 10 weeks

What do these records and Leona's have in common? They are all uninspired, insipid crowd-pleasers and their popularity has been boosted by either film or TV.



Leona has a good voice, but she has a terrible singing style. That Whitney style warbling sounds horrendous. Just hold a God-damned note can you? And she's just so dull.

I don't mean to patronise anyone, but I think those that are defending Leona probably don't know much about music.

The sooner people get tired of X Idol The Rival Factor or whatever the better. These ridiculous talent contests are finishing off an already moribund industry. I'm so sick of the bean-counters that run the music business. I'll carry on using P2P so I don't have to support the greedy b******s. I reckon they owe me several thousand pounds after over-charging on CDs all these years anyway, and I refuse to provide them with money so they can promote whatever awful crap they think will make them even more rich, whilst they bankrupt single mothers in the courts because they shared a couple of songs on the internet.”

Agreed.

But you forgot The Crazy Frog, that wonderful timeless musical masterpiece, which was number 1 for three weeks.
Ethereal
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by yossarian:
“I don't mean to patronise anyone, but I think those that are defending Leona probably don't know much about music.”

LOL! You don't mean to, but succeed exceptionally.

How about you realise that people have different tastes and opinions? Who are you to generalise and say that? You know nothing about anyone on here.
Ethereal
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“Any fan of real music won't be watching this bilge, so it really doesn't count for anything.”

Oh the music snobs are out in full force again I see. I love how "real music" is usually defined as "music I like and so everyone else should".
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“Oh the music snobs are out in full force again I see. I love how "real music" is usually defined as "music I like and so everyone else should".”

No, I'm glad that not everyone likes the music I do.

By the way, there's nothing snobby about admiring musicians who write their own music and play instruments, rather than fawning over someone winning an over-hyped karaoke TV show.
shackfan
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“No, I'm glad that not everyone likes the music I do.

By the way, there's nothing snobby about admiring musicians who write their own music and play instruments, rather than fawning over someone winning an over-hyped karaoke TV show.”

I think you may get some Elvis and Sinatra fans who will say there is nothing wrong with liking a singer who doesnt write the songs or play an instrument (ok, Elvis sometimes played guitar). I think they where regarded by some as quite good
clogsoncobbles
20-02-2008
Arguably Bleeding Love is a bit insipid, but she does have an amazing voice. BL has been #1 or #2 just about everywhere though .. and IMHO she is a far better advert for Britain than Amy Winehouse.
highwayman_ne
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Voted a couple of times already but will vote mostly on the night ”

Sorry but this is cheating in my book. It should be 1 person 1 vote.
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by shackfan:
“I think you may get some Elvis and Sinatra fans who will say there is nothing wrong with liking a singer who doesnt write the songs or play an instrument (ok, Elvis sometimes played guitar). I think they where regarded by some as quite good”

Elvis played guitar and piano.

Frank played piano. He was also a band conductor - no easy thing to do.

Are you seriously comparing those two to Leona Lewis?
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by highwayman_ne:
“Sorry but this is cheating in my book. It should be 1 person 1 vote.”

I agree.

If people had confidence they would only need to vote once.
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ethereal:
“LOL! You don't mean to, but succeed exceptionally.

How about you realise that people have different tastes and opinions? Who are you to generalise and say that? You know nothing about anyone on here.”

Someone who loves music and can see the difference between someone with a good, but not exceptional, voice who won talent contest and artists who are genuinely gifted.

If you record dull, insipid music like Bleeding Love then you can't expect to have any credibility.
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by clogsoncobbles:
“Arguably Bleeding Love is a bit insipid, but she does have an amazing voice. BL has been #1 or #2 just about everywhere though .. and IMHO she is a far better advert for Britain than Amy Winehouse.”

So you think Leona is a better advert for Britain because she's never been caught smoking crack? Do me a favour. Amy Winehouse is in a different league to Leona and if you can't see that you need help.
Radiomaniac
20-02-2008
If we're going to get all moral about who takes drugs in music versus those who don't - it's a bit late.

Think Beatles, Stones, Hendrix (can't believe I'm mentioning those names in a Leona Lewis thread) and practically anyone and everyone in the 60's - then all the blues/jazzmen before that in the 30's, and almost all those before and after.

Amy Winehouse is just one of a long line.
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by clogsoncobbles:
“Arguably Bleeding Love is a bit insipid, but she does have an amazing voice. BL has been #1 or #2 just about everywhere though .. and IMHO she is a far better advert for Britain than Amy Winehouse.”

Originally Posted by Radiomaniac:
“If we're going to get all moral about who takes drugs in music versus those who don't - it's a bit late.

Think Beatles, Stones, Hendrix (can't believe I'm mentioning those names in a Leona Lewis thread) and practically anyone and everyone in the 60's - then all the blues/jazzmen before that in the 30's, and almost all those before and after.

Amy Winehouse is just one of a long line.”

I agree Radiomaniac. Drug-taking is as commonplace in music as it is in everyday life. Remember Noel Gallagher's comment that taking drugs is like having a cup of tea?

Ok, so getting addicted to crack and heroin is pretty dumb, but it's about time some people in this country realised that nearly everyone takes drugs. Even if they aren't taking illegal drugs they almost certainly consume caffeine and alcohol - one of the worst drugs in terms of its impact on society.

Also, humans have been ingesting psycho-active substances for thousands of years, often to aid creativity. Perhaps you think Leona is a better advert for Britain than Samuel Taylor Coleridge, William Wordsworth or Shakespeare?

Anyway, I just wish people would get off their moral high-horses about Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty and leave them alone to live their lives the way they choose to. Remember, taking drugs is a victimless crime.

I bet Leona has taken drugs anyway. I reckon she's got a morphine supposetry up her backside right now.
True Colours
20-02-2008
The sooner that bleeding song fades away the better, so overhyped both artist and song, cant stand the way she holds the mic miles away above her face to warble a "great" high" schreechy noise.
Vote for her? As if.


P.s I dont buy that shy innocent image that Leona is giving, if she was that shy she wont be able to sing in front of the nation.
Sidespin Nid
20-02-2008
LOL , sorry but "real music" is subjective so please don't try and patronise me with such a comment.
Sidespin Nid
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by yossarian:
“I agree Radiomaniac. Drug-taking is as commonplace in music as it is in everyday life. Remember Noel Gallagher's comment that taking drugs is like having a cup of tea?

Ok, so getting addicted to crack and heroin is pretty dumb, but it's about time some people in this country realised that nearly everyone takes drugs. Even if they aren't taking illegal drugs they almost certainly consume caffeine and alcohol - one of the worst drugs in terms of its impact on society.

Also, humans have been ingesting psycho-active substances for thousands of years, often to aid creativity. Perhaps you think Leona is a better advert for Britain than Samuel Taylor Coleridge, William Wordsworth or Shakespeare?

Anyway, I just wish people would get off their moral high-horses about Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty and leave them alone to live their lives the way they choose to. Remember, taking drugs is a victimless crime.

I bet Leona has taken drugs anyway. I reckon she's got a morphine supposetry up her backside right now.”




Tell that to the families of those who have died as a result of taking drugs.

Oh..and Radiomanicac, since Hendrix and the Stones did it I expect that makes it alright
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“Tell that to the families of those who have died as a result of taking drugs.

Oh..and Radiomanicac, since Hendrix and the Stones did it I expect that makes it alright ”

Ok I will, and you can tell the families of people who've died of sclerosis of the liver and lung cancer from alcohol and tobacco that legal drugs are fine.

It's just double standards. Open your eyes. You've been fooled into thinking that cannabis is worse than alcohol just because it's illegal. When was the last time somone died from taking cannabis anyway? Oh yeah, that's right - never.
extrovertism.
20-02-2008
woah. from voting for leona to drugs. interesante.

anyway i'll vote for her once tonight
Sidespin Nid
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by yossarian:
“Ok I will, and you can tell the families of people who've died of sclerosis of the liver and lung cancer from alcohol and tobacco that legal drugs are fine.

It's just double standards. Open your eyes. You've been fooled into thinking that cannabis is worse than alcohol just because it's illegal. When was the last time somone died from taking cannabis anyway? Oh yeah, that's right - never.”



LOL okay , sorry but as long as you don't abuse alcohol it's not a problem. Obviously the people who we are discussing e.g Amy Winehouse have a problem with drugs and if she had the same problem with alcohol my attitude would not be any different.
AntiInternet
20-02-2008
These arguments are ridiculous, you all just sound bitter if I'm honest. All because she was on the X Factor...big deal, she'd still be as big if she hadn't gone on the show, as pointed out before, why else is her single going to #1 in all those countries where she's never been heard of before?
yossarian
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“LOL okay , sorry but as long as you don't abuse alcohol it's not a problem. Obviously the people who we are discussing e.g Amy Winehouse have a problem with drugs and if she had the same problem with alcohol my attitude would not be any different.”

No neither would mine. Drugs can be habit forming but not necessarily. Most people who take drugs don't get addicted, just like most poeple who drink don't become alcoholics. Of course, some drugs are more addictive than others, but it's up to the individual to decide where their boundaries are and stick to them. It shouldn't be something enforced by law.
Ethereal
20-02-2008
Originally Posted by highwayman_ne:
“Sorry but this is cheating in my book. It should be 1 person 1 vote.”

That's ridiculous, the BRITs site even says "You can vote as many times as you like" where as you could only vote once in the previous rounds. If they wanted people to vote once in this round then they would say. It's not cheating at all.

Originally Posted by yossarian:
“Someone who loves music and can see the difference between someone with a good, but not exceptional, voice who won talent contest and artists who are genuinely gifted.

If you record dull, insipid music like Bleeding Love then you can't expect to have any credibility.”

I love music, but I also realise that people are not gonna share my opinion and I would never patronise someone for having a different one to me.

I think the people who got her to #1 in the now 20 countries worldwide would disagree that the song is dull and insipid.
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