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True Colours
21-02-2008
Looks like her fans havent been voting hard enough So not all of the GBP are deaf
Radiomaniac
21-02-2008
And where are they all from this thread, now that she never won a bean?
KrappyNappy
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by True Colours:
“Looks like her fans havent been voting hard enough So not all of the GBP are deaf”

The GBP public already voted Bleeding love the years best single. In fact 20 countries have voted it the best single.

I guess its just the Brit award voters who have no taste.
Radiomaniac
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“The GBP public already voted Bleeding love the years best single. In fact 20 countries have voted it the best single.

I guess its just the Brit award voters who have no taste.”


This is more like it.
Scots_Dragon
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by True Colours:
“P.s I dont buy that shy innocent image that Leona is giving, if she was that shy she wont be able to sing in front of the nation.”

Its that insincerity that put me right off her, from the start there was that coy little smile that didn't match the deviousness in her eyes. Playing games all along and millions fell for it, though given last night perhaps they wised up to her act. What makes it all the sweeter is that she lost out to Mika of all people, my goodness what a come down that must have been. Losing to the Scissor Sisters eunuch!!
tiggerkev
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by C14E:
“So many narrow minded people on here.

If you feel like saying you can't stand Leona's singing style or that "Bleeding Love" is an annoying song then that's fine. Music is subjective, people will have their own tastes and opinions. What annoys me are the people who have taken it upon themselves to define "real music" and decide that anyone who likes a certain singer or band knows nothing about music and that their opinions really don't count.

I could come on here and say that Leona does actually write songs, for this album and in the past. I also understand that she plays the guitar. But that misses the point and it's just arguing into the hands of these "real music fans".

At one point, a real artist had to write their own songs but I notice how Elvis and Frank Sinatra were kindly given a pardon on this count and a few excuses made up. The simple fact is that nobody cared that Elvis played guitar occasionally. He is a legend because he was a brilliant performer and because he had great songs which he delivered so well. Is anyone actually saying that if Elvis didn't play guitar occasionally, he wouldn't be worthy of note?

Of course, these two are a case in point. Just think of some of the great songs that we would never have heard if music was only performed by those who wrote it?

Although Leona does write, I think her great talent and gift lies in her voice. Of course not everyone will like it, but millions do and as far as I last knew singing (well) is a talent. I remember plenty of music critics (often those that push "real music") saying Pavarotti was an incredibly gifted man... because he had a voice that could connect with millions.

EDIT: On the subject of the X Factor, it does no harm to the music industry. It's not as though the charts are dominated by Steve Brookstein wannabe's, is it? I'd actually say it's a good thing given how wide an audience it brings music to. My first interest in music came from watching Pop Idol (so anything I say must be completely irrelevant!).

Of course Simon Cowell is only doing it for money, but just because someone is working to make money doesn't mean you need to boycott anything they are selling. If you like what they turn out then they are rewarded. If I did that I wouldn't have anything in my house. So long as it's good quality then you buy it. Do you think EMI signed the Beatles for anything more than to make money? And what can be said for Amy Winehouse, she's managed by Simon Fuller's "evil, capitalist, mass market driven, Spice Girls and American Idol creating" 19 Management. She's only where he is because Fuller and a business partner want to make money. That's no reason not to buy her records. It's capitalism.”

I think you make some really good points. Personally i don't enjoy Leona's music, its just simply not my taste. However i would never refer to it as "crap" as it blatently isn't, people bought it and it sat on the top of the charts for, in this day & age an impressive amount of time.

But I do think that not everybody bought her music for the actual music. Some people simply buy into the image that the management team of Leona's & X Factor have created.

I personally don't enjoy X-Factor or similar shows because as much as people want to pick a winner & see the success they dream to maybe have one day, there is also the other side of the people who get their dreams shattered sometimes the most in verbally disgusting way! But not only that you then get shown "the worst auditions of the day" & "the worst auditions of series" just to add salt to the wound - thats not about the music - thats making "entertainment" at the expense of others.

The other reason I don't agree with some of the "ethics" around these type of shows is that, if the public then don't want to buy your music or into the image they have moulded you into (however you choose to look at it) they throw you on the scrapheap & start the cycle again.

I do think that there are some good points to the show, it gives "normal" people a chance to show their talents, which may otherwise unoticed or never have their moment. Also showing that dreams are achieveable and there have been some great sucess stories Will Young, Girls Aloud & Lemar being the most memorable, which undoubtedly adds variety to the music industry.

But for every success story there are many, many more "scrapheap" stories - Alex Parks, Hear'say, One True Voice, Sarah Whatmore, Steve Brookstein. The list goes on & on....

I would be interested to hear what "Real" music is incidently? Is music not a rythmatic melody? Vocals, Guitars, Pianos are not a required element. Banging wooden spoons on pots and pans on the kitchen floor constitutes as music (a favourite past-time of mine as a kid!) - maybe not sellable worldwide, platinum album music - but its still music. It really annoys me when someone will voice their opinion and state it as a fact -

"The Spice Girls are crap - Kaiser Chiefs are real music" etc etc

An opinion is exactly that an opinion, a fact is something proved beyond all doubt. You cannot prove beyond all doubt that The Spice Girls are crap and Kaiser Chiefs are not because someone somewhere likes them.

anyway thats my opinion on the matter
threecheeses
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Scots_Dragon:
“ What makes it all the sweeter is that she lost out to Mika of all people, my goodness what a come down that must have been. Losing to the Scissor Sisters eunuch!!”

Awwww! I really like Mika
Scots_Dragon
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“Awwww! I really like Mika ”

He's alright and to be honest, I am in a wind up mood just now. I was filled with such joy this morning, that it swelled my clapped out heart to hear the results of the Brits last night.

If its any consolation, I don't use the mute button on my radio when I hear a Mika song; I can at least listen to his songs without wanting to kill myself.
Sidespin Nid
21-02-2008
I'm a Leona fan right here.

Okay so she didn't win any so right now I'm the loser since I predicted that she would

But as a result of that I realised that not winning is not gonna damage her career in any way. If anything it will create anticipation for her next single and her worldwide success so far speaks for itself and I wish her all the best for her American launch

But I still think Best Single should have gone to her
xChErRy-DrOpSx
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“I'm a Leona fan right here.

Okay so she didn't win any so right now I'm the loser since I predicted that she would

But as a result of that I realised that not winning is not gonna damage her career in any way. If anything it will create anticipation for her next single and her worldwide success so far speaks for itself and I wish her all the best for her American launch

But I still think Best Single should have gone to her ”

Agree TOTALLY
True Colours
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“The GBP public already voted Bleeding love the years best single. In fact 20 countries have voted it the best single.

I guess its just the Brit award voters who have no taste.”

So er if the GBP have already voted in the past where were they when Leona most needed them to vote?
Just because 20 countried have voted it the best single doesnt mean it is, not everyone in every single of these 20 countries would be thinking that its a great single.

As for the no taste comment Is that directed at me? You dont know me and done know what my music taste is like but wait a minute just because I dont like that Bleeding song my taste in music must be cack As if.
BrokenArrow
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by True Colours:
“So er if the GBP have already voted in the past where were they when Leona most needed them to vote?
Just because 20 countried have voted it the best single doesnt mean it is, not everyone in every single of these 20 countries would be thinking that its a great single.

As for the no taste comment Is that directed at me? You dont know me and done know what my music taste is like but wait a minute just because I dont like that Bleeding song my taste in music must be cack As if.”

Hmm, I didn't see anything in that comment directed at you. Are you paranoid?

It seemed aimed at Take That fans, who seem to be composed mainly of 30 something females and teenage girls, a section of the population that appears to be driven mainly by hormonal imbalances rather than logic or good sense.
True Colours
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Hmm, I didn't see anything in that comment directed at you. Are you paranoid?

It seemed aimed at Take That fans, who seem to be composed mainly of 30 something females and teenage girls, a section of the population that appears to be driven mainly by hormonal imbalances rather than logic or good sense.”

My last sentence was an answer if you said that it was directed at me and why would I be paranoid?
I like Take That and Im neither a teenager nor a 30 something female, oh and Im not gay. I didnt vote though, knew they didnt need my help.
ShiftyDundee
21-02-2008
Leona Lewis got exactly what she deserved last night - nothing.

Originally Posted by Ansildrall:
“But as a result of that I realised that not winning is not gonna damage her career in any way. If anything it will create anticipation for her next single and her worldwide success so far speaks for itself and I wish her all the best for her American launch ”

I don't get that at all. How is being a loser is going to create anticipation for her next single?
True Colours
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by ShiftyDundee:
“Leona Lewis got exactly what she deserved last night - nothing.”

Exactly what I was thinking
ShiftyDundee
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“The GBP public already voted Bleeding love the years best single. In fact 20 countries have voted it the best single.”

No, the GBP didn't vote it the best single. Leona Lewis fans did. Most of the GBP have better things to do than vote in crappy music polls.
True Colours
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by ShiftyDundee:
“No, the GBP didn't vote it the best single. Leona Lewis fans did. Most of the GBP have better things to do than vote in crappy music polls.”

Cant agree with you more on that, I got called deluded by one of her hardcore fans, now I personally think her fans are deluded thinking a schreeching cowell muppet is the best thing since sliced bread
lumpbottom
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by True Colours:
“Looks like her fans havent been voting hard enough So not all of the GBP are deaf”

There just aren't enough of them.
For every one person that likes her there are two that don't.
slappers r us
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“The GBP public already voted Bleeding love the years best single. In fact 20 countries have voted it the best single.

I guess its just the Brit award voters who have no taste.”

20 countries loved the Crazy Frog as well
Scots_Dragon
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“20 countries loved the Crazy Frog as well”

Ouch, now that is cruel. Next you'll be saying that Leona is the Crazy Bulldog Bitch as she is from England
slappers r us
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Scots_Dragon:
“Ouch, now that is cruel. Next you'll be saying that Leona is the Crazy Bulldog Bitch as she is from England ”

no I think she has talent

but I get sick of numbers and countries thrown at me if I dare to comment on the saint that is Leona

OOOOhhhhh look shes no 1 in Germany

So was David Hasselhoff
Keels
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by BrokenArrow:
“Hmm, I didn't see anything in that comment directed at you. Are you paranoid?

It seemed aimed at Take That fans, who seem to be composed mainly of 30 something females and teenage girls, a section of the population that appears to be driven mainly by hormonal imbalances rather than logic or good sense.”

Not that you are generalising at all here. Who, in your opinion comprises Leona's fanbase then? Just curious, do the fans that fall in to the brackets you've put them in above suddenly stop being hormonal and illogical if they are fans of Leona's? Or are you saying teenage girls and 30 something women aren't likely to be fans of Leona's?
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