toshiba RIP

eddgreen · 19-02-2008, 21:36

i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it

thedrifter · 19-02-2008, 21:49

i know many people that brough a hd dvd player.
now they have stopped making them,and the blue ray players have now won the war.

lucky i brought a blue ray player then.

its the movie companys that were to blame,they wanted to go blue ray,so i guess hd dvd had no way of selling there players to public without losing alot of money.

the future now looks good for blueray,what about the people already brought hd dvd.

AlanO · 19-02-2008, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddgreen

i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it

I think the first few words of your post say it all:

"i wanted a hd laptop"

You had the choice of going HD-DVD or Blu Ray like every other consumer. It's not like spending 5 minutes on the net wouldn't have told you that it was highly likely one format would come out on top. You picked the loser - nobody forced you to buy the Toshiba.

Blaming Toshiba for following the market though is pretty lame. Would you refuse to buy Sony products because they dropped Betamax all those years ago ? Or what about all those nasty PC manufacturers who don't support 3.5" disk drives. Grow up.

mossy2103 · 19-02-2008, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddgreen

i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it

Although you are paying the price of being a fairly early adopter in a market that had not settled, and where there was going to be a loser in this format war, there is some comfort about laptop devices in a press release from Toshiba, take a look at this thread

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post21737536

atvmidlands · 19-02-2008, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddgreen

i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it

Its lucky that people didnt get in a strop with Sony and their Bluray for dropping Betamax ,UMD movies and Minidisc

eddgreen · 19-02-2008, 22:18

blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanO

I think the first few words of your post say it all:

"i wanted a hd laptop"

You had the choice of going HD-DVD or Blu Ray like every other consumer. It's not like spending 5 minutes on the net wouldn't have told you that it was highly likely one format would come out on top. You picked the loser - nobody forced you to buy the Toshiba.

Blaming Toshiba for following the market though is pretty lame. Would you refuse to buy Sony products because they dropped Betamax all those years ago ? Or what about all those nasty PC manufacturers who don't support 3.5" disk drives. Grow up.

atvmidlands · 19-02-2008, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddgreen

blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself

Oh well lets all throw our toys out the pram and blame Sony for dropping Betamax and forcing us into VHS.

Oh , wait a minute if I do that I'll have to sell my PS3.

I'll grow up when you can type legible posts

Moony · 19-02-2008, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedrifter

its the movie companys that were to blame,they wanted to go blue ray,so i guess hd dvd had no way of selling there players to public without losing alot of money.

The same can be said when Paramount announced their decision to go HD-DVD last august. A lot of blu-ray advocates could have lost out if that had influenced the format war in HD-DVD's favor. Thats the gamble you take by being an early adopter of new technology.

At the end of the day - what matters to studios is movie sales. Are they to blame for going with the format that is selling the most movies?

Blu-ray had the lions share of the studio backing right from the beginning.

Psychokat 666 · 19-02-2008, 23:33

This just reminds me of the Beta / VHS face off of years ago.
Bluray outsells HD DVD by 2 to 1 in America , in Europe that rises to 3 to 1 .

Two rules regarding new technology.

Wait till it has firmly established itself.
Do research into what competition there is.

I learned this lesson the hard way back in the early nineties when I invested in an advanced TV that was nothing but trouble.

jacquiann · 20-02-2008, 13:07

Yes Hubby bought an add-on HD thingy for his XB360 so we could watch HD DVD's. Luckily it was only £100 & we've only bought 4HD DVD's!
One good thing at least we'll be able to get the HD DVD's still out there really cheap now. (I remember Betamax's going for pennies at the end).
We''ve decided to watch new movies on Sky BO now until Blue Ray (sp?) players get a bit cheaper, they iron out the kinks & nothing new comes out to make it "old-hat".

AlanO · 21-02-2008, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddgreen

blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself

Utter drivel - the simple fact is Toshiba tried to introduce a new format at the same time Sony did.

All the pundits reckoned that one would come out on top - which is of course what has happened. Toshiba have merely responded to consumer demand - it just happens you lost out.

Any consumer who bought in at this time could easily have found out what the risks were and held off - you chose not to.

What do you expect Toshiba to do exactly ? Keep producing a format nobody's buying ? That's a sure fire way to put themselves out of business.

Buy-back your item so you can have something else ? Why on earth should they ? You made an educated decision which to buy, and nobody forced you.

As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else.

BallroomBear · 21-02-2008, 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanO

As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else.

With the left wing lunatics running the asylum, are you having a laugh?

AlanO · 21-02-2008, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallroomBear

With the left wing lunatics running the asylum, are you having a laugh?

Touche !!

Good point, well made

captainkremmen · 21-02-2008, 21:48

Toshiba may well come back with a kick ass BluRay player. In the mid to late 80s Sony produced some of the best VHS recorders you could buy.

Don't forget it was Toshiba that walked away from the discussions on a hybrid high def format not Sony and both went on to produce their own formats.

I was one of those that bought into Minidisc, thought it was great in its HighMD variants. You could get around 45 full albums on one HighMD disc(although sound quality wasn't the greatest at this compression level, sticking to around 10-15 albums on one disc gave great quality). The player cost 150 pounds and HighMD blanks would be bought for around 3-5 pounds. This was at a time when MP3 players were twice that price for 1Gb or 2Gb variants. The falling prices of MP3 players and the launch of those that could use memory cards eventually killed it off completely. I was stung by the failure of the format but I don't whine about it like many of the HD-DVD fanboys do. Some even say they will refuse to buy any Sony products from now, stupid reaction. They forget Sony co developed both CD and DVD so they are already using Sony developed formats or products.

Psychokat 666 · 21-02-2008, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanO

Utter drivel - the simple fact is Toshiba tried to introduce a new format at the same time Sony did.

All the pundits reckoned that one would come out on top - which is of course what has happened. Toshiba have merely responded to consumer demand - it just happens you lost out.

Any consumer who bought in at this time could easily have found out what the risks were and held off - you chose not to.

What do you expect Toshiba to do exactly ? Keep producing a format nobody's buying ? That's a sure fire way to put themselves out of business.

Buy-back your item so you can have something else ? Why on earth should they ? You made an educated decision which to buy, and nobody forced you.

As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else.

Extremely well said.

19-02-2008, 21:36	#1
eddgreen Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 496	toshiba RIP i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it

19-02-2008, 21:49	#2
thedrifter Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: london Posts: 658	i know many people that brough a hd dvd player. now they have stopped making them,and the blue ray players have now won the war. lucky i brought a blue ray player then. its the movie companys that were to blame,they wanted to go blue ray,so i guess hd dvd had no way of selling there players to public without losing alot of money. the future now looks good for blueray,what about the people already brought hd dvd.

19-02-2008, 21:54	#3
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	Quote: Originally Posted by eddgreen i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it I think the first few words of your post say it all: "i wanted a hd laptop" You had the choice of going HD-DVD or Blu Ray like every other consumer. It's not like spending 5 minutes on the net wouldn't have told you that it was highly likely one format would come out on top. You picked the loser - nobody forced you to buy the Toshiba. Blaming Toshiba for following the market though is pretty lame. Would you refuse to buy Sony products because they dropped Betamax all those years ago ? Or what about all those nasty PC manufacturers who don't support 3.5" disk drives. Grow up.

19-02-2008, 21:58	#4
mossy2103 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 68,710	Quote: Originally Posted by eddgreen i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it Although you are paying the price of being a fairly early adopter in a market that had not settled, and where there was going to be a loser in this format war, there is some comfort about laptop devices in a press release from Toshiba, take a look at this thread http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post21737536

19-02-2008, 21:58	#5
atvmidlands Banned User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 1,274	Quote: Originally Posted by eddgreen i wanted a hd laptop so i got a toshiba with a hd dvd drive now toshiba says thats it we will move on now to something new i would never buy toshiba again ive seen noone else complaning just hoe they want it Its lucky that people didnt get in a strop with Sony and their Bluray for dropping Betamax ,UMD movies and Minidisc

19-02-2008, 22:18	#6
eddgreen Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 496	blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself Quote: Originally Posted by AlanO I think the first few words of your post say it all: "i wanted a hd laptop" You had the choice of going HD-DVD or Blu Ray like every other consumer. It's not like spending 5 minutes on the net wouldn't have told you that it was highly likely one format would come out on top. You picked the loser - nobody forced you to buy the Toshiba. Blaming Toshiba for following the market though is pretty lame. Would you refuse to buy Sony products because they dropped Betamax all those years ago ? Or what about all those nasty PC manufacturers who don't support 3.5" disk drives. Grow up.

19-02-2008, 22:37	#7
atvmidlands Banned User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 1,274	Quote: Originally Posted by eddgreen blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself Oh well lets all throw our toys out the pram and blame Sony for dropping Betamax and forcing us into VHS. Oh , wait a minute if I do that I'll have to sell my PS3. I'll grow up when you can type legible posts

19-02-2008, 22:53	#8
Moony Guest Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 14,710	Quote: Originally Posted by thedrifter its the movie companys that were to blame,they wanted to go blue ray,so i guess hd dvd had no way of selling there players to public without losing alot of money. The same can be said when Paramount announced their decision to go HD-DVD last august. A lot of blu-ray advocates could have lost out if that had influenced the format war in HD-DVD's favor. Thats the gamble you take by being an early adopter of new technology. At the end of the day - what matters to studios is movie sales. Are they to blame for going with the format that is selling the most movies? Blu-ray had the lions share of the studio backing right from the beginning.

19-02-2008, 23:33	#9
Psychokat 666 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,124	This just reminds me of the Beta / VHS face off of years ago. Bluray outsells HD DVD by 2 to 1 in America , in Europe that rises to 3 to 1 . Two rules regarding new technology. Wait till it has firmly established itself. Do research into what competition there is. I learned this lesson the hard way back in the early nineties when I invested in an advanced TV that was nothing but trouble.

20-02-2008, 13:07	#10
jacquiann Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,192	Yes Hubby bought an add-on HD thingy for his XB360 so we could watch HD DVD's. Luckily it was only £100 & we've only bought 4HD DVD's! One good thing at least we'll be able to get the HD DVD's still out there really cheap now. (I remember Betamax's going for pennies at the end). We''ve decided to watch new movies on Sky BO now until Blue Ray (sp?) players get a bit cheaper, they iron out the kinks & nothing new comes out to make it "old-hat".

21-02-2008, 18:14	#11
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	Quote: Originally Posted by eddgreen blaming toshiba is what many more peaple should do ive lost you have not grow up yourself Utter drivel - the simple fact is Toshiba tried to introduce a new format at the same time Sony did. All the pundits reckoned that one would come out on top - which is of course what has happened. Toshiba have merely responded to consumer demand - it just happens you lost out. Any consumer who bought in at this time could easily have found out what the risks were and held off - you chose not to. What do you expect Toshiba to do exactly ? Keep producing a format nobody's buying ? That's a sure fire way to put themselves out of business. Buy-back your item so you can have something else ? Why on earth should they ? You made an educated decision which to buy, and nobody forced you. As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else.

21-02-2008, 18:31	#12
BallroomBear Banned User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 539	Quote: Originally Posted by AlanO As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else. With the left wing lunatics running the asylum, are you having a laugh?

21-02-2008, 19:54	#13
AlanO Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,902	Quote: Originally Posted by BallroomBear With the left wing lunatics running the asylum, are you having a laugh? Touche !! Good point, well made

21-02-2008, 21:48	#14
captainkremmen Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DAVEVILLE, Daveshire DA1 1VE Posts: 33,621	Toshiba may well come back with a kick ass BluRay player. In the mid to late 80s Sony produced some of the best VHS recorders you could buy. Don't forget it was Toshiba that walked away from the discussions on a hybrid high def format not Sony and both went on to produce their own formats. I was one of those that bought into Minidisc, thought it was great in its HighMD variants. You could get around 45 full albums on one HighMD disc(although sound quality wasn't the greatest at this compression level, sticking to around 10-15 albums on one disc gave great quality). The player cost 150 pounds and HighMD blanks would be bought for around 3-5 pounds. This was at a time when MP3 players were twice that price for 1Gb or 2Gb variants. The falling prices of MP3 players and the launch of those that could use memory cards eventually killed it off completely. I was stung by the failure of the format but I don't whine about it like many of the HD-DVD fanboys do. Some even say they will refuse to buy any Sony products from now, stupid reaction. They forget Sony co developed both CD and DVD so they are already using Sony developed formats or products.

21-02-2008, 22:22	#15
Psychokat 666 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,124	Quote: Originally Posted by AlanO Utter drivel - the simple fact is Toshiba tried to introduce a new format at the same time Sony did. All the pundits reckoned that one would come out on top - which is of course what has happened. Toshiba have merely responded to consumer demand - it just happens you lost out. Any consumer who bought in at this time could easily have found out what the risks were and held off - you chose not to. What do you expect Toshiba to do exactly ? Keep producing a format nobody's buying ? That's a sure fire way to put themselves out of business. Buy-back your item so you can have something else ? Why on earth should they ? You made an educated decision which to buy, and nobody forced you. As I said before, grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions, rather than trying to blame somebody else. Extremely well said.

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