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Well done Take That - 2 Brits :)
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KrappyNappy
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“yer right whatever PMSL

So its was all grown up who had a field day in the Leona fan thread in x factor forum who was telling everyone to vote like mad and to keep refreshing their cookies on the ROTY vote.

TUT TUT a very sad thing for grown ups to do dont you think.

pull the other one its got bells on it ”

Yes, lobbying is a very grown up thing to do, blindly voting for an inferior product insn't
hitnmix
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“Yes, lobbying is a very grown up thing to do, blindly voting for an inferior product insn't”


ok if you say so

But looking at the leona fan thread I would say many are little girls, crying and wanting to hit things coz she didnt get anything. As a real adult wouldnt act like that over a Brit award would they. If anything a real adult wouldnt vote full stop for this sort of crap show. ( I know I didnt)

But you keep beleiving what you want others can just go and have a look to see how childish some of them are over it all.
KrappyNappy
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“ok if you say so

But looking at the leona fan thread I would say many are little girls, crying and wanting to hit things coz she didnt get anything. As a real adult wouldnt act like that over a Brit award would they.

But you keep beleiving what you want others just have to go and have a look to see how childish some of them are over it all.”

They have good reason
Sez_babe
21-02-2008
OK, I'm getting very confused on who is being positive here.

Take That deserved the two awards imo
hitnmix
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“They have good reason”


childish reasons

After all its only a Brit if they think she is that great they should have faith in her without the Brit. And not carry on like a child in a tantrum.
gemmaovwales03
21-02-2008
The nominations for best single were awful where were the Sugababes? Rihanna? Two huge songs that never made it to the final round.
beast1982
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by gemmaovwales03:
“The nominations for best single were awful where were the Sugababes? Rihanna? Two huge songs that never made it to the final round.”

Rihanna is not british and so cant be nominated
gemmaovwales03
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by beast1982:
“Rihanna is not british and so cant be nominated”


Ah yes sorry
darkjedimaster
21-02-2008
As everyone is entitled to their opinon, i'm gonna have my 2 cents worth & that some of you are dreading it before I have typed it .

Isn't it strange that the last time them pansies aka Take That were in the limelight they won best british single in 1993 & 1994, then they do the right thing and left the music biz & then wadda u know, they comeback x amount of years later and get the award again . Me thinks there is a backhander somewhere.

Hmm Morrisons use that crappy shine record for their ad which a load of money gets paid to itv .
nogoodbyes
21-02-2008
Leona should of won instead of take that.
Miffy290580
21-02-2008
For Gods sake when will people realise Take That won both of those awards because the PUBLIC voted for them not because someones getting a back hander and not because the song is on the Morrisons advert As someone else said if you wanted your favourite to win then you should have voted simple as!!!
Barbarella81
21-02-2008
Take That did deserve the best live act award. I haven't seen Muse, but I can't imagine they would put the months of effort in that Take That did.
So what if they're not stood there for 2 hours with guitars stuck to them. It gives them freedom to put on a show, perform and entertain the crowds. And that is what Take That is all about.
My friend did the props for the tours, and Take That were fully in charge of what happened in the shows, the set design, the costumes....they are not just puppets performing to background music. Take That have never mimed at a concert. And very very rarely on tv, I think I've only seen them once since their comeback.
I went to several of the concerts, and trust me it's not 'polished' as someone said. There is something new to see every time.
SPni
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Barbarella81:
“Take That did deserve the best live act award. I haven't seen Muse, but I can't imagine they would put the months of effort in that Take That did.”

Muse put a lot of effort into there live shows. They also pretty much tour the world non stop. There live shows are amazing. Matt Bellamy just doesn't play guitar too. He's a rather amazing piano player too. There is an unrepentant live energy around there shows. Here a little youtube link to a clip from there sell out wembley stadium shows.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kV2NUdtccLs&feature=related
tellmeall
21-02-2008
Yea i didnt think they deserved the award for best live act,,,i am a fan and have been to see them on both the reunion tour and the beautiful world tour and i didnt think it was anything special really, with only mainly garys vocals being consistent throughout. also why were they nominated for best album when beautiful world was released in 2006??
KrappyNappy
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Barbarella81:
“Take That did deserve the best live act award. I haven't seen Muse, but I can't imagine they would put the months of effort in that Take That did.
So what if they're not stood there for 2 hours with guitars stuck to them. It gives them freedom to put on a show, perform and entertain the crowds. And that is what Take That is all about.
My friend did the props for the tours, and Take That were fully in charge of what happened in the shows, the set design, the costumes....they are not just puppets performing to background music. Take That have never mimed at a concert. And very very rarely on tv, I think I've only seen them once since their comeback.
I went to several of the concerts, and trust me it's not 'polished' as someone said. There is something new to see every time.”

TT are not in the same class as Muse. If you had seen Muse live you would realise just how ridiculous this award was. They have won it the 2 previous years in a row because they are indisputably Britains best Live act. Nothing has changed this year.

TT do have a place, pandering to the middle age hormonally challenged female market, every country has their TT.

This award was par for the course for the whole night.
Miffy290580
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by tellmeall:
“Yea i didnt think they deserved the award for best live act,,,i am a fan and have been to see them on both the reunion tour and the beautiful world tour and i didnt think it was anything special really, with only mainly garys vocals being consistent throughout. also why were they nominated for best album when beautiful world was released in 2006??”

Because the voting is for the last 16 months or so not just the last year which is why it takes in the end of 2006.
SPni
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“TT are not in the same class as Muse. If you had seen Muse live you would realise just how ridiculous this award was. They have won it the 2 previous years in a row because they are indisputably Britains best Live act. Nothing has changed this year.

TT do have a place, pandering to the middle age hormonally challenged female market, every country has their TT.

This award was par for the course for the whole night.
”

I agree with you wholeheartedly. But thats what happens when you get Radio 2 to vote for best live act
Barbarella81
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by KrappyNappy:
“TT are not in the same class as Muse. If you had seen Muse live you would realise just how ridiculous this award was. They have won it the 2 previous years in a row because they are indisputably Britains best Live act. Nothing has changed this year.

TT do have a place, pandering to the middle age hormonally challenged female market, every country has their TT.

This award was par for the course for the whole night.”

I think the thousands of males at their concerts would be horrified to be described as middle aged hormonally challenged females! And no they weren't all with girlfriends who'd dragged them along...I saw lots of groups of men, all ages. They appeal to lots of different groups of people, myself am not a middle aged female.
I have no desire to see Muse live, their music is not my thing. So I can not compare shows. But as I said, seeing Take That, I fully feel they deserve it.
Their shows are energetic, electric and I've been to lots of gigs over the years.
And to tellmeall, who claimed the shows 'were nothing special', I'd like to question if you went to the same shows?! So all the special effects were nothing special? The rainfall, the fire, the acrobatics...just an average show then?! And all their vocals were consistent throughout.
SPni
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Barbarella81:
“And to tellmeall, who claimed the shows 'were nothing special', I'd like to question if you went to the same shows?! So all the special effects were nothing special? The rainfall, the fire, the acrobatics...just an average show then?! And all their vocals were consistent throughout.”

Muse had acrobats dangling from balloons dangling over the crowd, pyro, balloons filled with confetti launched into the crowd and possibly one of the best stage entrances I have ever seen.
tellmeall
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Barbarella81:
“I think the thousands of males at their concerts would be horrified to be described as middle aged hormonally challenged females! And no they weren't all with girlfriends who'd dragged them along...I saw lots of groups of men, all ages. They appeal to lots of different groups of people, myself am not a middle aged female.
I have no desire to see Muse live, their music is not my thing. So I can not compare shows. But as I said, seeing Take That, I fully feel they deserve it.
Their shows are energetic, electric and I've been to lots of gigs over the years.
And to tellmeall, who claimed the shows 'were nothing special', I'd like to question if you went to the same shows?! So all the special effects were nothing special? The rainfall, the fire, the acrobatics...just an average show then?! And all their vocals were consistent throughout.”


Yea i had seen the rainfall etc and the stage above the audience been done before, it just felt ok to me. I seen them in belfast at the odyssey arena and personally to me the vocals were off key a few times. What makes you think just because they mite not have went out of tune on the show you were at that it didnt happen at the one i attended. I am a fan of take that, but recently i have found them to be quite cocky, especially gary barlow. I know poeple who asked him for an autograph in belfast and he just blanked them.
Barbarella81
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by tellmeall:
“Yea i had seen the rainfall etc and the stage above the audience been done before, it just felt ok to me. I seen them in belfast at the odyssey arena and personally to me the vocals were off key a few times. What makes you think just because they mite not have went out of tune on the show you were at that it didnt happen at the one i attended. I am a fan of take that, but recently i have found them to be quite cocky, especially gary barlow. I know poeple who asked him for an autograph in belfast and he just blanked them.”

No I didn't go to see them in Belfast, but I did go to a lot of the shows...and all of them, they were not out of tune.
And as for them being cocky, the times I've met them, they have been anything but. They are humble and appreciate their fans like no other band I've met.
tellmeall
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Barbarella81:
“No I didn't go to see them in Belfast, but I did go to a lot of the shows...and all of them, they were not out of tune.
And as for them being cocky, the times I've met them, they have been anything but. They are humble and appreciate their fans like no other band I've met.”


hmmm other bands i have met are more loyal to their fans. We will have to agree to disagree im afraid. A number of people have commented on how rude gary is to people, especially to one of the sugababes when they wer supporting them on tour. At belfast Gary didnt even acknowledge the fans who were waiting outside.
The Face of Boe
21-02-2008
As a 35 year old male, I am delighted that Take That won the 2 awards, for all those knocking Shine it has consistently been in the top 75 since it was released a year ago, So not doing bad. My only gripe for the night was those bloody Arctic Monkeys denying Take That Best Group and Best Album, what a bunch of losers they looked.(The monkeys not Take That)
Kolakube
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by SPni:
“Muse had acrobats dangling from balloons dangling over the crowd, pyro, balloons filled with confetti launched into the crowd and possibly one of the best stage entrances I have ever seen.”

Ironically, Take That had pretty much the same.

However they got involved with the dancing whilst singing completly live - whereas Muse just stood and played.

I like both bands, but Take That were fantastic.

Originally Posted by darkjedimaster:
“Isn't it strange that the last time them pansies aka Take That were in the limelight they won best british single in 1993 & 1994, then they do the right thing and left the music biz & then wadda u know, they comeback x amount of years later and get the award again . Me thinks there is a backhander somewhere.”

Considering in the 90's, Best Single was a panel voted award, and now its a public voted award, you can't really claim backhanded tactics were used.
meds
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Kolakube:
“However they [Take That] got involved with the dancing whilst singing completly live - whereas Muse just stood and played.
”

I'm glad Take That won the award, but you must realise how silly that little bit of your post sounds.

Muse just stand and play a few instruments? Good lord, I love Take That and Muse (diverse musical taste), but proper, talented musicianship, IMHO, is miles above dancing talent in terms of something admirable, so your point kind of fell a bit flat.

I'd love Gary Barlow and Matt Bellamy to do a piano duel/duet.
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