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Amy Winehouse 5 Grammys, No Brits
Paace
21-02-2008
I don't understand how she was not even nominated in any category. Have the Grammys got it all wrong and she did not deserve those awards!!
Alex91
21-02-2008
"Rehab" was only released in the US last May - it was released here in Oct 06, meaning that it was only eligable for the Brits 2007.

Summer 2007 was Amy's prime time in the US, when she released a lot of material, making her eligable for the 2008 Grammy's.

Didn't A.W. win a Brit in 2007?
The Spoon
21-02-2008
Amy Wino gets the "sympathy" vote - the rock chick who lives life in the fast lane on the highway to hell with an appetite for destruction - all the cliches.

unlike Janis Joplin, she just aint good enough to warrant the attention.

when Janis sang "piece of my heart" you just HAD to respond, whereas Amy just seems to be following the Pete Docherty school of substandard talent route.
hitnmix
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by The Spoon:
“Amy Wino gets the "sympathy" vote - the rock chick who lives life in the fast lane on the highway to hell with an appetite for destruction - all the cliches.

unlike Janis Joplin, she just aint good enough to warrant the attention.

when Janis sang "piece of my heart" you just HAD to respond, whereas Amy just seems to be following the Pete Docherty school of substandard talent route.”


Im not sure about the sympathy vote as the US aint that big on sympathy ( just take a look at britney)
Paace
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Alex91:
“"Rehab" was only released in the US last May - it was released here in Oct 06, meaning that it was only eligable for the Brits 2007.

Summer 2007 was Amy's prime time in the US, when she released a lot of material, making her eligable for the 2008 Grammy's.

Didn't A.W. win a Brit in 2007?”

Thanks Alex.
The Spoon
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by hitnmix:
“Im not sure about the sympathy vote as the US aint that big on sympathy ( just take a look at britney)”

difference is that Britney started out clean-cut, whereas Amy Wino has always been 'dirty' - a self-consciously 'bad girl'. Britney gives them the 'fallen angel' angle, whereas Amy is just has the 'trailer trash' image.

she can sing (sometimes) but she is about as significant as Pete D.
hitnmix
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by The Spoon:
“difference is that Britney started out clean-cut, whereas Amy Wino has always been 'dirty' - a self-consciously 'bad girl'. Britney gives them the 'fallen angel' angle, whereas Amy is just has the 'trailer trash' image.

she can sing (sometimes) but she is about as significant as Pete D.”


not really if you had seen some of the froums in the US some still thought and saw Britney as a trailer trash girl only without the drugs.

And Amy can sure sing better than Britney.
Alrightmate
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Alex91:
“"Rehab" was only released in the US last May - it was released here in Oct 06, meaning that it was only eligable for the Brits 2007.

Summer 2007 was Amy's prime time in the US, when she released a lot of material, making her eligable for the 2008 Grammy's.

Didn't A.W. win a Brit in 2007?”

Why are you just using 'Rehab' as nomination criteria?

She has released several singles over the last year:

"You Know I'm No Good"
"Back to Black"
"Tears Dry on Their Own"
"Valerie"
"Love Is a Losing Game"

Quote:
“Didn't A.W. win a Brit in 2007?”

That doesn't make any difference.
Arctic Monkeys did. Muse did. They both got nominated for the same categories this year as they did last year.
Northern_Light
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Why are you just using 'Rehab' as nomination criteria?

She has released several singles over the last year:

"You Know I'm No Good"
"Back to Black"
"Tears Dry on Their Own"
"Valerie"
"Love Is a Losing Game"


That doesn't make any difference.
Arctic Monkeys did. Muse did. They both got nominated for the same categories this year as they did last year.”

I agree. Amy Winehouse released several singles last year which charted and her album still remains high in the charts today. I find it really strange that she wasn't at least in the category for Best British Female.
Blah123
21-02-2008
She won last year for Back to Black - in the Best British Female category so why would they nominate her again for the same material?

I don't understand why you all don't understand this
Emy
21-02-2008
Okay.
Listen very carefully.
you cannot win an award if you haven't released anything.
She wasn't snubbed, just not eligible.
It's very simple.
Sloopy
21-02-2008
She's spent much of the past year in and out of rehab, so I suppose they can't nominate her for the sake of it.

Just because she's a "tortured soul" doesn't instantly make her eligible for all the awards.
One United
21-02-2008
She won Best British Female last year, so she couldn't be nominated in that category again this year. I'm pretty sure that rule applies to all the categories.
ShiftyDundee
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by The Spoon:
“difference is that Britney started out clean-cut, whereas Amy Wino has always been 'dirty' - a self-consciously 'bad girl'. Britney gives them the 'fallen angel' angle, whereas Amy is just has the 'trailer trash' image.

she can sing (sometimes) but she is about as significant as Pete D.”

Amy Winehouse and Pete Doherty are both pretty significant to a hell of a lot of people out there.

Which current artist would you rate as more significant?
Let me guess, Leona Lewis?
Queen Maeve
21-02-2008
LOL but the Brits change the rules to suit themselves.

But I agree..technically she wasn't eligible
ScottishWoody
21-02-2008
Just to remind people, she WAS nominated for Best British Single. (It may have officially been Mark Ronson, but I'm sure she'd get just as much credit for it).
MarkElkington
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by One United:
“She won Best British Female last year, so she couldn't be nominated in that category again this year. I'm pretty sure that rule applies to all the categories.”

It can't, Muse won Best British Live act in 2006 AND 2007 and were up again this year.

She just hasn't done much of note in the UK this year. A cancelled tour and a single under another guys name. And a 'comeback' where she mis-timed her start, mumbled frequently, was scared as hell and looked like she belongs on an oxfam advert.
alienghost
21-02-2008
She won the Brit for Best Female last year and was nominated for Back To Black as well. Back To Black turned out to be much more successful in 2007 than it had been in 2006, but they weren't to know that at the time were they?

She was nominated (with Mark Ronson) for Valerie because that song was released in 2007. Apart from that she hasn't done any new material that she hasn't been awarded for/nominated for.

Is this really so hard for people to understand?
louison
21-02-2008
Quote:
“It can't, Muse won Best British Live act in 2006 AND 2007 and were up again this year.”

I think that category is different. Muse may be touring the same material as last year (I don't know if they are or not). But the fact that they toured in 07 makes them eligable for that award. Wheras Amy Winehouse didnt release a new album in 2007 so she is ineligable for the Best Female, Best Album etc awards.
Alrightmate
21-02-2008
Originally Posted by One United:
“She won Best British Female last year, so she couldn't be nominated in that category again this year. I'm pretty sure that rule applies to all the categories.”

Yes she can.

If Kylie can release 'Wow' and be nominated for best international female, then Amy Winehouse can be nominated due to releasing 'Valerie'.
Alrightmate
21-02-2008
Where's this rule that you need to release an album to be nominated in the best british female category?

All the other nominees only released about 2 or 3 singles, Leona Lewis only released one single. Bat For Lashes didn't release an album last year.

So I don't understand where this rule is that Amy Winehouse isn't eligible if all the others are for Best British Female.
Ethereal
22-02-2008
Originally Posted by The Spoon:
“Amy Wino gets the "sympathy" vote - the rock chick who lives life in the fast lane on the highway to hell with an appetite for destruction - all the cliches.

unlike Janis Joplin, she just aint good enough to warrant the attention.

when Janis sang "piece of my heart" you just HAD to respond, whereas Amy just seems to be following the Pete Docherty school of substandard talent route.”

I have to agree, Amy's story is what is getting her loads of success IMO. She has a fantastic voice (although it hasn't been recently) but this endless publicity is really boosting her sales.
Plant
23-02-2008
The Grammy's have about 300 categories so it's a lot easier to win one.
Tom1007
23-02-2008
Originally Posted by One United:
“She won Best British Female last year, so she couldn't be nominated in that category again this year. I'm pretty sure that rule applies to all the categories.”

Arctic Monkeys got best band for 2 years in a row

Take That won best song 2 years in a row
Mr Giggles
23-02-2008
Because I believe the Brit awards is a pointless and corrupt award I'm glad Amy didn't win any.
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