I've never made him out to be anything - I don't know him so can't comment on his personal traits; what I do say though is that he started with an unfair advantage. I know you object to me saying that, because you've responded to my posts before, but that's the way I see it.

I think Suzanne's performances to date have been perfect interpretations of whatever music they're given - whereas Chris, clever though some moves undoubtedly are, seems only able to pull off fast numbers.

I hope he gets a slow romantic number next week - only then will we see how well he can 'act' the part.

As for liking and supporting him - just because you like him doesn't invalidate everyone else's opinions.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to quote me when i was commenting on someone else. Anyway you like Suzanne and are entitled to your opinions, i like Chris and am entitled to mine. But it's not opinion when character attacks are made against anyone they do not know. I am talking about the ones on Chris for being smug or cocky, the ones on Suzanne for being desperate and needy or whatever poeple call her. I do not approve of any of them. If you refuse to blame the producers for Chris taking part then that's your problem not mine.

Obviously, this being a forum and all that, everyone's entitled to their own opinions. I think Suzanne works very hard, but the end result is rather clinical. I think Chris has natural flair and talent, agreed he hasn't been graceful in the past, but has become much more so recently. I don't find him smug at all, just young and excitable, and he and his partner are clearly enjoying the experience which makes for an exciting performance week after week.

Suzanne I find very smug however, especially her fixed grin when the judges provide their comments (I'm sure one of these weeks she'll let the guard slip and stamp her feet and have a tantrum). She and her partner don't seem to be having any fun whatsoever, and that, to me, is kinda boring to watch.


Whoah there. I think you're going off on one a bit. And I think you'll find our sportsmen & women win so little as they spend too much time whingeing and not enough time training. It's got bugger all to do with this 'mortal sin of determination' of which you speak. It's 'Dancing on Ice' remember, not Olympic trials - it's a bunch of Y-list celebrities either trying to resuscitate their flagging careers or just having a bit of fun during a career lull.

Do they do the flying next week??

I realise you were not targeting me personally - I was simply pointing out that not every Suzanne fan is automatically anti Chris as a person; I don't know him, so how would I make such a judgement. Many of us, however, feel that he started with an unfair advantage and whether his fans like it or not, we are entitled to say so. I also get tired of hearing Chris and Frankie playing down his skating experience.

Last week Suzanne said she felt great about topping the leader board, because it is so hard to beat Chris and people said she was gloating; this week Chris said how pleased he was to equal Suzanne's best score and we hear nothing. Where were Suzanne's detractors I wonder.

I don't have an out-and-out favourite.

I watch the programme for the spectacle, not because I am desperate for the result to go one way or another.

I just think some people are taking it too seriously. Suzanne's ambition is to be admired; but this is entertainment, not the Olympics.

Well they're all in it to win it - Gareth goes about it more quietly but would love to win and do you really think Chris would have attempted the axel last week if he wasn't taking it seriously and hoping the admiration factor would ensure more votes? Suzanne has taken on a new skill, she's determined and is giving it her best shot - what's so wrong with that

And following your line of discussion not every Chris fan is anti Suzanne. Personally I think they are both fantastic to watch, Chris is just a little better in my opinion. Suzanne was amazing last week and deserved her scores.

I never said there was anything wrong with it - I just think they ham up the injury problems.

I've no doubt that it is a risky business - and on the subject of migraines I know how much they knock you sideways - but I just don't buy into all the histrionics: "will she or won't she skate??" - of course she bloomin' will!!

I was not targetting you at all if im honest i pay little attention to what you post unless you quote me.
Considering you were selective on what you responded to about my post i will be too. Chris and Frankie are always having to play it down because they are asked about it all the time, that's hardly their fault is it. The producers are at fault not Chris. Chris actually said this about his routine "we are pleased that we got 27 for that routine because it's the same scores we got for our favourite one cry me a river", he also said "it would've been nice to beat Suzannes top score" but they missed out by .5.

That is is the point I was trying to make - but I don't think I made it very well.

I will be disappointed if Suzanne doesn't win - I think she has come so far; but if someone else wins the bottom of my world won't drop out, any more than it did when Greg went on Saturday! And bless him, he was never going to win, but that big grin lit up my Saturday nights.







Not perpetuating this line of thought - but I was simply pointing out that I KNOW your post was not directed at me.

I actually thought they got 27.5 and that Chris was pleased about equalling Suzanne's score - my mistake. And I wasn't accusing Chris of gloating - because he wasn't, but some of his fans accused Suzanne of gloating last week and I wondered where they were on Saturday when Chris was understandably pleased at topping the board again.

Apologises then if i had got the wrong end of the stick. The Chris fans accusing Suzanne of gloating are probably avoiding certain threads much like the ones who say similar things against Chris scarper when confronted. I have said on numerous occasions i am against all this b*tching going around but it is happening and i am having to deal with in the best way possible by defending Chris. If people spent as much time praising their favourites as they spent slating the ones they don't like this forum would be a much better place.

Ambition is a great pain killer .... Suzanne is (as she admits) really competitive. If she had gone home or had to be out of the competition that would've caused her a great deal more pain.

We all saw how Michael reacted to having to pull out of the competition .. and he hadn't got as far as this.

Then we both mean the same thing then.

I'm going to be completely honest here. I looked forward to Greg more then anyone else every Sunday. His smile and enthusiasm and willingness to try his damned hardest. He's a big loss from the show for me. On the plus side his skate off performance was better then most of the celebrities in the show outside the top three of course. A great swan song for a great sportsman.

I'm more worried about Michael Underwood still. Has anyone heard how he is recently?

I have to admit I was worried for her until she did the "flip". I tend to agree with other posters who have said that if it was as bad as the producers would have us believe then she shouldn't have skated at all, let alone do the "flip". From week 1 Suzanne has had a catalogue of "high profile" injuries, to the point where it's putting me off of her.

But others have hurt themselfs as well, why is it such a big deal if they hurt theirseves? Of course they are going to have accidents, it's ITV procuders people should be moaning about, their the ones that go OTT about it, maybe with Suzanne she is just a little dippy, she is blonde so either way it's not the end of the world, and it hasn't put me off her because I realise they will hurt theirselfs for time to time.

Just watch GMTV - he barely stops talking about it.

Well I was watching ITV1 on Sunday, I don't know what you were watching so I can't say

Zaraah's best week until now was her first week, she has been in the skate off 3 times now I think and her confidence seems to have suffered. This week she was great and skated really well on her own, I don't know what it was about the performance but Zaraah's seemed so much better than Suzanne's did.

It was like Greg, they all did jumps and did little jumps most of them, not Chris who is way ahead of everyone else, but Greg went for it and yet the difficulty he did wasn't taken into consideration

Chris did a fabulous jump but I preferred Suzanne's routine (I think it was Suzanne).

I like the most entertaining routine and Zaraah and Greg did it for me this week

I've met Gareth loads of times over the years as I've been a fan of his since Pop Idol. Naturally, I'm supporting him in DOI. He's a really lovely guy.