I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)
Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!
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Zaraah does the least skating though. Gareth does complicated dance steps while on the ice with his partner in close proximity. Based on skating skills Zaraah is by far the weakest of the final four.
Originally Posted by FantasticMrFox:
“Zaraah does the least skating though. Gareth does complicated dance steps while on the ice with his partner in close proximity. Based on skating skills Zaraah is by far the weakest of the final four.”
“Zaraah does the least skating though. Gareth does complicated dance steps while on the ice with his partner in close proximity. Based on skating skills Zaraah is by far the weakest of the final four.”
Least skating? I don't get that.. Shes always on the ice..doesn't do loads of fancy lifts & she has started doing more complicated dance steps recently too..
Whilst I'd agree that she hasn't deserved to be in the dance off the amount of times she has, I think going on past performances that she should be in the next dance off. However, she may well come out and completely blow us all away on Saturday, although if recent weeks are anything to go by she still won't escape the bottom two.
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If you take out the lifts and you take out the parts where Fred is supporting her then you are left with very little. Her steps are not complicated, at least not in comparison with Chris, Suzanne and Gareth.
Because her presentation is so beautiful and elegant it often masks the fact that on the ice she is pretty shaky. She can move around by herself I'm not disputing that but the steps she does alone are not the same kind at difficulty as what the rest are doing.
It's just my opinion. I don't dislike Zarah, I think she very nice and she's made the competition interesting but out of the skaters that are left she is the weakest.
Because her presentation is so beautiful and elegant it often masks the fact that on the ice she is pretty shaky. She can move around by herself I'm not disputing that but the steps she does alone are not the same kind at difficulty as what the rest are doing.
It's just my opinion. I don't dislike Zarah, I think she very nice and she's made the competition interesting but out of the skaters that are left she is the weakest.
I'd say Zaraah is now the weakest remaining contestant. She has the right presentation but often looks shaky and less confident than the others when out of hold.
Gareth puts more work into the intricacy of his skating, rather than executing one lift after another.
Gareth puts more work into the intricacy of his skating, rather than executing one lift after another.
Zaraah was good when she came into it and she was definitely up there in the top 3 and has remained like that through the competition but she has had a couple of bad weeks so I would imagine she has lost quite a lot of her fan base. She hasn't progressed as much as the others have but I still think she could make the final. The final 2 is definitely going to be Suzanne and Chris so third place will be between Zaraah and Gareth all depending on who is saved in next weeks skate off.
Originally Posted by Tom1007:
“The final 2 is definitely going to be Suzanne and Chris so third place will be between Zaraah and Gareth all depending on who is saved in next weeks skate off.”
“The final 2 is definitely going to be Suzanne and Chris so third place will be between Zaraah and Gareth all depending on who is saved in next weeks skate off.”
Based on the demographic of the voting public I wouldn't be surprised to see the boys will get through by right next week leaving Suzanne and Zaraah in the skate-off...with Zaraah to go.
Originally Posted by interband7996:
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.
Originally Posted by interband7996:
“ (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
“ (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
Samatha went early because she wasnt that good, as i said on another thread
"Samantha Mumba was very much like Zaraah, it was just even worse with her. Her solo skating was weak, there was very little of it and she showed real fear while performing and seemed like she didn't want to be there. Like Zaraah in hold she was fairly steady and in lift she was pretty graceful BUT unlike Zaraah her fear wasnt just restricted to skating but also coming out of lifts. You will notice if you watch her performances back that her Partner would have to come to a near stop after every lift so she could be placed back on the ice rather than the dismount being a smooth continuous movement.
Again like Zaraah her background is such that the personality side when on the Ice shouldnt have come into it, no matter how scared or unhappy she was was she should have like Suzanne, Gareth and Chris been able to flick a switch and put across a "I'm happy and having fun" persona"
Originally Posted by Tom1007:
“Zaraah was good when she came into it and she was definitely up there in the top 3 and has remained like that through the competition but she has had a couple of bad weeks so I would imagine she has lost quite a lot of her fan base. She hasn't progressed as much as the others have but I still think she could make the final. The final 2 is definitely going to be Suzanne and Chris so third place will be between Zaraah and Gareth all depending on who is saved in next weeks skate off.”
“Zaraah was good when she came into it and she was definitely up there in the top 3 and has remained like that through the competition but she has had a couple of bad weeks so I would imagine she has lost quite a lot of her fan base. She hasn't progressed as much as the others have but I still think she could make the final. The final 2 is definitely going to be Suzanne and Chris so third place will be between Zaraah and Gareth all depending on who is saved in next weeks skate off.”
The first week is somewhat misleading. Like everyone at the time I thought "wow" but having rewatched it since I think alot of it was down to the elegant lifts and probally the fact we still had aggie in who could skate and couldn't even be flung around very elegantly. The skating content really is lacking in that routine and its not actually as good as it seemed.
Originally Posted by Katenutzs:
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
I actually think we may see Gareth win it as he actually finds a good middle ground between Chris and Suzanne.
Chris is clearly the most technical skater but from a dance pov he is probally the weakest. Suzanne is probably the weakest of the 2 on a technical skating pov but probably the strongest on the dance side. Gareth doesnt 'excel' on either but isn't the weakest on either and tbh probally deserves the win atm as so far he is the one who has fulfilled the concept of the show the most, that being bring the skating and the dance together in harmoney
Originally Posted by FantasticMrFox:
“If you take out the lifts and you take out the parts where Fred is supporting her then you are left with very little. Her steps are not complicated, at least not in comparison with Chris, Suzanne and Gareth.
Because her presentation is so beautiful and elegant it often masks the fact that on the ice she is pretty shaky. She can move around by herself I'm not disputing that but the steps she does alone are not the same kind at difficulty as what the rest are doing.
It's just my opinion. I don't dislike Zarah, I think she very nice and she's made the competition interesting but out of the skaters that are left she is the weakest.”
“If you take out the lifts and you take out the parts where Fred is supporting her then you are left with very little. Her steps are not complicated, at least not in comparison with Chris, Suzanne and Gareth.
Because her presentation is so beautiful and elegant it often masks the fact that on the ice she is pretty shaky. She can move around by herself I'm not disputing that but the steps she does alone are not the same kind at difficulty as what the rest are doing.
It's just my opinion. I don't dislike Zarah, I think she very nice and she's made the competition interesting but out of the skaters that are left she is the weakest.”
Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt? (Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
Suzanne who had a chip in the bone of her ankle...
Originally Posted by FantasticMrFox:
“Suzanne who had a chip in the bone of her ankle...”
“Suzanne who had a chip in the bone of her ankle...”
Exactly... Can't take last week for an example where Suzanne did very complicated steps... No, let's pick the week when she was under par....
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt? (Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
I am not a Suzanne fan but have you actually been watching the series ... she has more than proved she can skate and dance on her own 2 feet ... one week and one week only she had to play down her preformance in order to protect her injured foot but she still came out and did a better routein than either Greg or Zarrah.
With zarrah If you take out the lifts which look elegant until she fumbles her landings and you take out the parts where Fred is supporting her then you are left with very little content. Her steps are easy in comparison with Chris, Suzanne and Gareth.
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt? (Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
Suzannes performance was below standard and lacked alot of the skating shes shown she can do BUT she was generally marked down for it. Only Nicky who's scoring of Suzanne has been a little on the high side since the week he marked her low (quite correctly imho) for that routine where she was hardly on her feet.
When she is on the Ice her footworks vastly better than Zaraahs
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt? (Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
What else could anyone do with a chair? The one handstand lift Suzanne did from the chair was far better than watching Zaraah make two spins in a hula and wander around waving two sticks in the air.
Originally Posted by interband7996:
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
Agree she hasn't deserved to be in the bottom two before but she's now the least capable and least entertaining one left. Its not only that everyone else can do more complicated steps its that she's not better than Gareth in the graceful movement department and she is still disjointed and hesitant doing short versions of simpler lifts. I would be surprised if her routines have a third the difficulty or half the different moves Suzanne's have and she's done nothing as difficult as Suzanne in any week let alone anything that got Bonnie or Claire to a final. She had potential as a graceful skater but she's very up and down and showing no real progression. Gareth doesn't seem to me to do much either - he spends almost as much time watching his partner do something as I do. I wouldn't argue Zaraah was any better though.
Samantha I agree was a loss. I don't know how much better she could have got but she almost certainly had more potential than people who stayed after she went.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Samantha I agree was a loss. I don't know how much better she could have got but she almost certainly had more potential than people who stayed after she went.”
“Samantha I agree was a loss. I don't know how much better she could have got but she almost certainly had more potential than people who stayed after she went.”
She had no potential at all, not on whats an Ice Skating competition. Of all the contestants she was the one most viably scared of being on the Ice. If your fear is so great that you cant even trust your pro partner to place you down on the Ice without coming to a near stop you have a major problem in a competition like this and you have let your fear put you so far behind you have no potential at all.
I'm not even sure she was really committed to the show as she seemed somewhat resigned to her fate all along. I suspect she either went in soley to use it to kick start her career or she had decided before the first show she had no chance and that it was just a career kick start
Originally Posted by wakey:
“Samatha went early because she wasnt that good, as i said on another thread
Samantha Mumba was very much like Zaraah, it was just even worse with her. Her solo skating was weak, there was very little of it and she showed real fear while performing and seemed like she didn't want to be there. Like Zaraah in hold she was fairly steady and in lift she was pretty graceful BUT unlike Zaraah her fear wasnt just restricted to skating but also coming out of lifts. You will notice if you watch her performances back that her Partner would have to come to a near stop after every lift so she could be placed back on the ice rather than the dismount being a smooth continuous movement.
Again like Zaraah her background is such that the personality side when on the Ice shouldnt have come into it, no matter how scared or unhappy she was was she should have like Suzanne, Gareth and Chris been able to flick a switch and put across a "I'm happy and having fun" persona"
The first week is somewhat misleading. Like everyone at the time I thought "wow" but having rewatched it since I think alot of it was down to the elegant lifts and probally the fact we still had aggie in who could skate and couldn't even be flung around very elegantly. The skating content really is lacking in that routine and its not actually as good as it seemed.
I actually think we may see Gareth win it as he actually finds a good middle ground between Chris and Suzanne.
Chris is clearly the most technical skater but from a dance pov he is probally the weakest. Suzanne is probably the weakest of the 2 on a technical skating pov but probably the strongest on the dance side. Gareth doesnt 'excel' on either but isn't the weakest on either and tbh probally deserves the win atm as so far he is the one who has fulfilled the concept of the show the most, that being bring the skating and the dance together in harmoney”
“Samatha went early because she wasnt that good, as i said on another thread
Samantha Mumba was very much like Zaraah, it was just even worse with her. Her solo skating was weak, there was very little of it and she showed real fear while performing and seemed like she didn't want to be there. Like Zaraah in hold she was fairly steady and in lift she was pretty graceful BUT unlike Zaraah her fear wasnt just restricted to skating but also coming out of lifts. You will notice if you watch her performances back that her Partner would have to come to a near stop after every lift so she could be placed back on the ice rather than the dismount being a smooth continuous movement.
Again like Zaraah her background is such that the personality side when on the Ice shouldnt have come into it, no matter how scared or unhappy she was was she should have like Suzanne, Gareth and Chris been able to flick a switch and put across a "I'm happy and having fun" persona"
The first week is somewhat misleading. Like everyone at the time I thought "wow" but having rewatched it since I think alot of it was down to the elegant lifts and probally the fact we still had aggie in who could skate and couldn't even be flung around very elegantly. The skating content really is lacking in that routine and its not actually as good as it seemed.
I actually think we may see Gareth win it as he actually finds a good middle ground between Chris and Suzanne.
Chris is clearly the most technical skater but from a dance pov he is probally the weakest. Suzanne is probably the weakest of the 2 on a technical skating pov but probably the strongest on the dance side. Gareth doesnt 'excel' on either but isn't the weakest on either and tbh probally deserves the win atm as so far he is the one who has fulfilled the concept of the show the most, that being bring the skating and the dance together in harmoney”
Loving your work wakey
Samantha was never going to make any progress when she was terrified all the time, and it's true that Chris's technique and athletic ability is masking the fact that he's often not the most graceful.
I think that lack of grace could be what makes the difference between Chris and Suzanne in the final...
Originally Posted by Katenutzs:
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
FYI, I actually think Gareth is good. I may have failed to say so, but he's very good, but I think Zaraah is better and he was largely overmarked last week. Suzanne should win because although Chris is an excellent skater, he's a bit too full of himself, I think. Suzanne to win, Chris a very close runner up, Zaraah and then Gareth, but that's just my opinion. I didn't make personal remarks about Gareth either, I just didn't think he was as good as he could have been last week.
Originally Posted by interband7996:
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
“I think Zaraah was much better than Gareth last night. He looked like he was thinking too much about what he was doing, while Zaraah looked natural. His facial expressions didn't appeal to me either (scrunched up). I think that he should have been in the bottom two instead of Zaraah because Zaraah, performance wise, deserves to go through to the final with Chris and Suzanne. I don't want any of them to leave, even Gareth, because he's cool and good, but I think that Zaraah only deserved to be in the bottom two last week. Shame it's down to popularity when the public vote! (Explains Samantha going before Steve!!)”
Zaraah is pathetic. Almost as pathetic as Samantha was. Both of them only looked good when being carried and neither of them should have entered this competition as they are too scared to carry out moves that could result in injury.
She should have been out weeks ago. I hope she's out this week. It will be a travesty if she makes the final.
Originally Posted by Katenutzs:
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
“As the thread is titled ''Zaraah doesn't deserve to be a female Steve Backley!'' no she dosent because Steve actually danced on his own more than Zaraah has so far ... all her routeins have her being lifted elegantly but failing to land on the ice elegantly or holding on to her partner, rarely does she let go and actually skate/dance. When she is on her own she fumbles and looks lost.
I am puzzled as to why you need to knock Gareth to try and make Zarrah look good. If you don't like Gareth then don't vote for him but stop trying to ruffle other people by making unkind almost nasty personal comments about him.
Susanne dances a lot on her own and does complicated footwork and what can I say about Chris other than he is amazing on his own and the only thing I can say is I would like to see him dance with his partner a little more ... and I am sure he will have taken these comments on board and sort this next week.”
I couldn't agree more.
Originally Posted by Mamaboogie:
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt? (Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
“Complicated steps like Suzanne sitting on the chair for most of Saturday night's programme being tugged around by Matt?
(Apart from doing the flip thing!) But, as Nicky said: she had lovely poise!”
Have you been watching the same series?
Originally Posted by interband7996:
“FYI, I actually think Gareth is good. I may have failed to say so, but he's very good, but I think Zaraah is better and he was largely overmarked last week. Suzanne should win because although Chris is an excellent skater, he's a bit too full of himself, I think. Suzanne to win, Chris a very close runner up, Zaraah and then Gareth, but that's just my opinion. I didn't make personal remarks about Gareth either, I just didn't think he was as good as he could have been last week.”
“FYI, I actually think Gareth is good. I may have failed to say so, but he's very good, but I think Zaraah is better and he was largely overmarked last week. Suzanne should win because although Chris is an excellent skater, he's a bit too full of himself, I think. Suzanne to win, Chris a very close runner up, Zaraah and then Gareth, but that's just my opinion. I didn't make personal remarks about Gareth either, I just didn't think he was as good as he could have been last week.”
When Zarrah can land smoothly from her lifts and actually dance/skate without holding on to her prop Fred then I may agree with you until then Gareth. Chris & Suzanne are way ahead of her.
No personal remarks about Zarrah just my observations from watching her on the show
Zaraah is just as good as Gareth IMHO, Why are people so negative about her? She deserve's to be in the semi's she's just as good as anyone else, and actually when she's in a lift shes very graceful and elegant and she skate's really well. The relationship between her and Fred is lovely to watch.
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