[sancheeez]

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/a...ter-cable-and/

lol!

[cordunkni]

lol indeed!

I've always maintained that decent 2-core mains wire makes good speaker cable.

[Pemblechook]

Fool and his money.


I use some fairly thin dirt cheap flex on these old Wharedale speakers.

Bit of mains flex is all you need.

[JohnD2000]

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Originally Posted by Pemblechook

Fool and his money.


I use some fairly thin dirt cheap flex on these old Wharedale speakers.

Bit of mains flex is all you need.

Anything better would be wasted on what sound like a cheap pair of warfedale knock offs.

I'm not surprised a coat hanger made a reasonable speaker connection. It's a big solid piece of metal with a very short run. Dirt cheap speaker cables, on the other hand often aren't.

At the end of the day, for analogue cables NOT digital, it comes down to what you like the sound of. If you can't hear a difference, then there's absolutely no need to spend money on better quality cables.

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[stvn758]

They were probably Bang & Olufsen coat hangers.

[diablo]

I've seen plenty of blind A-B tests which proved much the same thing.

I use fairly cheap thick OFC cable from Maplin, but I doubt if I'd notice if someone secretly swapped it for mains cable.

I tried a blind bi-wiring test a few years ago but couldn't tell the difference.

There will always be people who go for the snake oil option.

[Pemblechook]

That OFC business is a load of tosh. If coathangers (steel) are as good as these daft cables then OFC wont make any diff.

I gather the difference in conductivity between OFC and ordinary copper is 1%. the difference between a cable and one of double the diameter is 400%.

[stvn758]

There must be something in it, I refuse to believe my 300 disc megachanger sounds the same as an expensive CD player.

Same silicon, same ones and zero's - not the same crappy sound I bet.

[Ellie666]

i certainly believe there can be a difference between the "right type" of equipment but obviously the amount you spend does not necessarily equate to the the end results.

i would tend to equate it to driving: a nice country lane is good enough if you are the only vehicle on it, where as a nice big motorway is often better because of the shear amount of traffic (info) being sent down it- in this case the country lane would be woefully inadequate.

as for quality, well add a few great big potholes into the experience and see what that does!!!

[bobcar]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stvn758

There must be something in it, I refuse to believe my 300 disc megachanger sounds the same as an expensive CD player.

Same silicon, same ones and zero's - not the same crappy sound I bet.

The quality of the D/A converter and the analogue circuits will make a small difference though far far less than the difference between different cartridge/styli/pickup arms etc.

With video then there will be no difference for HD-DVD/BluRay over HDMI for 1080p as that's digital all the way with no video processing other than MPEG decoding (the decoding process is lossless (not the whole encode/decode cycle which isn't)). Upscaling on the other hand is where there will be a huge difference between makes.

[Badvok]

Quote:

Originally Posted by sancheeez

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/a...ter-cable-and/

lol!

LOL indeed. How gullible some people are. Just think for a sec how hard it would actually be to use (probably uninsulated) coat hangers as cable for speakers that are metres apart!
I suspect some other agenda here

[chrisjr]

There was a story doing the rounds many many years ago of a journalist covering a HiFi show for one of the mags. He was standing next to a punter looking into a bit of kit on a stand.

The punter apparently shook his head in disgust and said that this bit of kit would never sound any good since it had red wire not blue inside! Errr yeah....

And in the late 1970s I was at a HiFi show myself and NAIM (I think it was) were showing off their new FM Tuner. They were obviously proud of it because the demo unit had the lid off so you could see inside.

A guy stood next to me and turned to his mate and said "load of rubbish this, look it's got an IC inside". Back then it was held that anything that used ICs was crap and transistors were better, Valves being the cannine dangly bits

I had a look and debated whether I should point out that the IC he was so annoyed about was switching the Stereo indicator LED on the front on and off....

[Pemblechook]

I remember folks in W Wales saying they were getting good stereo. BUT the Haverford West TX wasn't radiating stereo. Pilot tone was leaking through from its parent station. Their little red lights were coming on.

[Dan Sette]

Some aspects of this are already being discussed, following the same story. You have to look askance at the Engadget story as no mention is made of the equipment they are using.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=756881