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Old 05-03-2008, 12:15
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Which member of Girls Aloud could they easily perform and live without? Which one isnt sexy, isnt confident enough and does not look the part ?
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P.S. think red hair !
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:18
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Which member of Girls Aloud could they easily perform and live without? Which one isnt sexy, isnt confident enough and does not look the part ?
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P.S. think red hair !
So singing does'nt come into your thinking then ???

They could easily do without Sarah, she cant sing and is not sexy (in my opinion).
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:20
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i think all 5 members are needed
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:26
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I think all five should be replaced
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:26
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i think all 5 members are needed
I think all 5 are not needed. You could get any vaugely attractive average singer to perform those songs.
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:34
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yeh i just meant, these 5 look the part and seem to get on very well, so replacing one or getting rid of one them wouldn't work...imo
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Old 05-03-2008, 13:39
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I think all 5 are not needed. You could get any vaugely attractive average singer to perform those songs.
I don't agree, purely because the songs are written FOR Girls Aloud (as in Cheryl, Nadine, Nicola, Kimba and Sarah) based on their personalities. Put five different girls in their place and you'll get different songs as a result. If Javine, for example, had made it instead of Sarah, they wouldn't be who they are today. All five are needed. IMO, of course.
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Old 05-03-2008, 13:51
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Clearly, if there was a member they didn't need it's that ugly ginger one. If I remember correctly, she didn't even make it into the last 5 because she's a bit rubbish, and the only reason she is in the band is because someone was pregnant or too old or something like that.
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:09
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I don't agree, purely because the songs are written FOR Girls Aloud (as in Cheryl, Nadine, Nicola, Kimba and Sarah) based on their personalities. Put five different girls in their place and you'll get different songs as a result. If Javine, for example, had made it instead of Sarah, they wouldn't be who they are today. All five are needed. IMO, of course.
Considering none of the "band" write the songs anyway it hardly matters who sings what. Most of the time they lip sync anyway and gyrate a little to give the impression they are performing. As they are often referred to as a band or group what instruments do they play? My guess is none.

They are just cleverly managed and presented to make a whole load of money for all concerned. In a year or two they will have faded to obscurity and most of their fans will go onto something else in the same mould.
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:19
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Just got the one question for Girls Aloud , just exactly what is it that you do?
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:24
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Considering none of the "band" write the songs anyway it hardly matters who sings what. Most of the time they lip sync anyway and gyrate a little to give the impression they are performing. As they are often referred to as a band or group what instruments do they play? My guess is none.

They are just cleverly managed and presented to make a whole load of money for all concerned. In a year or two they will have faded to obscurity and most of their fans will go onto something else in the same mould.
They co-write all their B-sides, which is better than nothing. In fact, most are better than the crappy covers they've done.

It's not about who sings what (although Xenomania have a knack of using the right girl for the right line), it's about the writers drawing influence from the five individuals. Put in five different individuals and you get a different outcome, surely.

As for "lip syncing" they haven't mimed a TV performance in donkey's. That's just a lazy one to throw in. And what else would you call a...well, group? They are a group of people. The dictionary definition doesn't specify instruments, but perhaps my copy is out of date.

Cleverly managed and presented to make money? You bet your ass. But they were supposed to have faded into obscurity after Sound Of The Underground, yet here we are five years and 17 consecutive Top 10 singles down the line.

Of course they'll split up sooner rather than later, but they've done bloody well considering where they started.
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:33
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i agree, they havent mimed at all in any of their recent performances
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:38
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Clearly, if there was a member they didn't need it's that ugly ginger one. If I remember correctly, she didn't even make it into the last 5 because she's a bit rubbish, and the only reason she is in the band is because someone was pregnant or too old or something like that.
i remember Geri Halliwell putting her in, cant think why
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:39
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They co-write all their B-sides, which is better than nothing. In fact, most are better than the crappy covers they've done.

It's not about who sings what (although Xenomania have a knack of using the right girl for the right line), it's about the writers drawing influence from the five individuals. Put in five different individuals and you get a different outcome, surely.

As for "lip syncing" they haven't mimed a TV performance in donkey's. That's just a lazy one to throw in. And what else would you call a...well, group? They are a group of people. The dictionary definition doesn't specify instruments, but perhaps my copy is out of date.

Cleverly managed and presented to make money? You bet your ass. But they were supposed to have faded into obscurity after Sound Of The Underground, yet here we are five years and 17 consecutive Top 10 singles down the line.

Of course they'll split up sooner rather than later, but they've done bloody well considering where they started.
By co-writing do you mean they actually compose the music? I can imagine their co-writing consists of adding a line to the lyrics such as " oh yeah baby". I am sure they could sing live for a TV performance - one or two songs perhaps? Could they do a whole 2 hour show singing live? I doubt it somehow. 17 consecutive top ten singles is on the surface impressive but how many copies need to be sold to do that? Not that many these days.

They owe their five years to their management. If they had to exist on raw talent they would have not survived a month.

Yes, they will make their money and good luck to them. If I could get away with I would do it too.
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:43
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I hate manufactured pop but I quite enjoy Girls Aloud's music. They're fun & don't take themselves too seriously.

The only decent act to have won one of these talent shows, imo.
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Old 05-03-2008, 14:57
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By co-writing do you mean they actually compose the music? I can imagine their co-writing consists of adding a line to the lyrics such as " oh yeah baby". I am sure they could sing live for a TV performance - one or two songs perhaps? Could they do a whole 2 hour show singing live? I doubt it somehow. 17 consecutive top ten singles is on the surface impressive but how many copies need to be sold to do that? Not that many these days.
If the co-writes were purely vanity credits, surely all the singles would feature Girls Aloud as co-writers? I imagine it's a case of Xenomania providing the backing and The Aloud writing their verses, similiar to how Sugababes write their songs.

I don't see why so much emphasis is placed on artists writing their own music anyway. If everyone did it, there'd be no place for songwriters who can't sing a note to get their work out there. Girls Aloud having songs written for them places them in the minority in the current world of music. It's not 1998 anymore.

As for performing live for two hours? Well, I've seen them do it along with 10,000 other people. I can tell when they're singing live or not, and the Greatest Hits tour was live. I think the previous tour was 50/50 for live singing, for the record.

They recently sang live with a live band for some radio gig, Live At The Local, eight songs or so. That's what they prefer to do, from what they've said in interviews, but often it's just not practical to do that all the time. GMTV and This Morning certainly don't have the facilities, and there's no time for decent rehearsal for something like that. Plus most people don't even care, so it's not worth the money or effort on Fascination's part.

With regards to the last point, why doesn't every artist have every record chart highly? Record sales may be low all round, but they're still selling highly compared with everyone else releasing on the same week. The numbers (whether 1,000,000 or 10,000) are irrelevent on their own.
They owe their five years to their management. If they had to exist on raw talent they would have not survived a month.

Yes, they will make their money and good luck to them. If I could get away with I would do it too.
Absolutely - to both points.
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:00
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Clearly, if there was a member they didn't need it's that ugly ginger one. If I remember correctly, she didn't even make it into the last 5 because she's a bit rubbish, and the only reason she is in the band is because someone was pregnant or too old or something like that.
Nope, she got in fair and square I believe, the public voted for her.
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:05
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Nope, she got in fair and square I believe, the public voted for her.
Second most popular at the time, I believe.

Cheryl secured the most votes, followed by Nicola, then Nadine, Kimberley and finally Sarah.

She didn't make the Top 10 initially, but was drafted in after another Nicola decided she didn't want to take part. Kimberley replaced the pregnant one.
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:07
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random- but im glad Kimberly got another chance and was put into the band
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:23
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IMO I don't think Kimberley, Sarah or Nicola are needed, they seem to spend most of their time as backup singers for Cheryl and Nadine. If I'm honest, I'd rather than group dispersed as soon as possible- terrible live singers, I think it's mostly the management that's prevented them from doing so so far, through careful marketing and easy songs to sing.
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:29
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I think Nicola is lovely and has a great voice. She is certainly not ugly.
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:58
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Nicola's there because she was one of the best singers in the final 10. I don't think she was ever in the bottom two during the voting she had the 2nd most votes on the final night (thank god the public weren't as shallow as the op!) She doesn't get to sing a lot on the songs which is such a shame for some reason she's always pushed to the back. I think she has a better voice than Cheryl & Kimberley but for some reason gets much less lines than them. The reason she's not confirdent is down to silly posts like these. To constantly have people say your the ugly one when your 16 would batter anyone's confidence I think she deserves some respect for just putting up with it.
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Old 05-03-2008, 16:19
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I'm sick of the argument that those who have mimed on TV shows do it because they can't sing. That is absolute tosh.

They do it because they're instructed to, because there's no time for sound checks or because the programme isn't geared up for it. Occasionally they mime when they are not able to sing through illness. It has absolutely nothing to do with talent whatsoever.

If one girl decided to leave I'm sure the group could continue without a replacement member. Perhaps with four, people might realise that Nicola is one of the strongest singers in the group.
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Old 05-03-2008, 16:29
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I'm sick of the argument that those who have mimed on TV shows do it because they can't sing. That is absolute tosh.

They do it because they're instructed to, because there's no time for sound checks or because the programme isn't geared up for it. Occasionally they mime when they are not able to sing through illness. It has absolutely nothing to do with talent whatsoever.
I don't think that's strictly true. In this world of Auto-Tune, you don't have to be a great singer to sound good on record. Consequently, there are a lot of singers who look nice but can't cut it live. I don't really think you can say this about Girls Aloud though. They can sing live. They're not spectacular, but they can get away with it.

However, sometimes what you say is true and good singers are told they must mime.
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Old 05-03-2008, 16:43
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I don't think that's strictly true. In this world of Auto-Tune, you don't have to be a great singer to sound good on record. Consequently, there are a lot of singers who look nice but can't cut it live. I don't really think you can say this about Girls Aloud though. They can sing live. They're not spectacular, but they can get away with it.

However, sometimes what you say is true and good singers are told they must mime.
Which is why chart positions mean nothing to me any more. I like to hear good singers who have stage presence and whether they are in the charts or the media is unimportant to me.

I have seen Girls Aloud live quite a few times when I was there to see someone else. They did their choreography perfectly for each song, they sang alright and the audience loved them.
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