Recording From V+ to DVD

*Silver-Fox* · 05-03-2008, 19:23

Everything working OK except we're unable to download from the V+ hard drive to the DVD recorder.

We have the white Virgin cable into the V+ which is then connected to the DVD recorder by more of the same. The DVD is conected to the TV via a Scart lead.

We've followed the instructions in V+ and recorded some lovely black screens.

Any modification required please ?

Dave

chrisjr · 05-03-2008, 20:14

What white cable are you talking about? Would it be an aerial lead perhaps? If so then there is the problem, probably.

You need a SCART lead between V+ box and DVD. You then set the DVD to record from whatever it calls the SCART input.

*Silver-Fox* · 07-03-2008, 20:56

Thanks Chris - No it's not the old TV Coax it's the actual "Cable" cable. I've read quite a few articles on this site and although we appear to have everything connected in-line OK i.e. V+ Box to DVD and DVD to TV it needs a "Backward Connection" in the form of a Scart lead from V+ to DVD to record from the V+ hard drive onto DVD.

I'll ask my Son to have a fuddle with it this week end let you know.

Cheers - Dave

chrisjr · 07-03-2008, 21:34

Actually if it is connected the way I think it is then it IS an aerial cable. The V+ box has a pair of RF connectors. One takes a TV aerial in and the other is an output to your TV/DVD. The V+ box passes through the signal on the RF IN (Antenna socket) to the RF OUT (lower socket) plus a modulated signal of whatever you are watching. Similar to what old VCR machines did before SCART took over the world

By default this signal is on UHF channel 52. So you need to tune the DVD recorder into that to pick it up (analogue only if your recorder also has Freeview built in). However this is probably the worst option for recording.

It will be the poorest quality and only mono sound. Not anywhere near as good as SCART. If you did somehow manage to split the cable signal going into the V+ box and feed that to the DVD as well then no wonder it doesn't work

I think your DVD player would have very serious trouble trying to make sense of a cable signal!

So now how to connect V+, TV and DVD properly. In order of picture quality.

Option 1
V+ HDMI --> TV HDMI
V+ "TV" SCART --> DVD AV2 SCART
DVD AV1 SCART --> TV AV1 SCART

This will give you the best TV picture. It will also let you use RGB mode on the SCART to get the best picture to the DVD. If the DVD can do RGB in on the AV2 SCART of course. Then use RGB out on AV1 of the DVD to the TV. Though I think I have seen reports that V+ disables the SCART if you use HDMI (or was that Sky?).

Option 2
V+ "TV" SCART --> DVD AV2 SCART
DVD AV1 SCART --> TV

This will allow RGB quality recording on the DVD. But it relies on the DVD being able to pass through the V+ signal to the TV when the DVD is in standby.

To record with Option 1 or 2 select AV2 as the Input on the DVD

Option 3
V+ "TV" SCART --> TV
V+ "VCR" SCART --> DVD AV1 SCART

There shouldn't be a need to connect a SCART from DVD to TV as the V+ box should pass the DVD signal on to the TV when you play a disk. One thing you may not be able to do however is use RGB quality from the V+ box to the DVD.

To record with Option 3 select AV1 as the input on the DVD.

05-03-2008, 19:23	#1
Silver-Fox Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	Recording From V+ to DVD Everything working OK except we're unable to download from the V+ hard drive to the DVD recorder. We have the white Virgin cable into the V+ which is then connected to the DVD recorder by more of the same. The DVD is conected to the TV via a Scart lead. We've followed the instructions in V+ and recorded some lovely black screens. Any modification required please ? Dave

05-03-2008, 20:14	#2
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	What white cable are you talking about? Would it be an aerial lead perhaps? If so then there is the problem, probably. You need a SCART lead between V+ box and DVD. You then set the DVD to record from whatever it calls the SCART input.

07-03-2008, 20:56	#3
Silver-Fox Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2	Thanks Chris - No it's not the old TV Coax it's the actual "Cable" cable. I've read quite a few articles on this site and although we appear to have everything connected in-line OK i.e. V+ Box to DVD and DVD to TV it needs a "Backward Connection" in the form of a Scart lead from V+ to DVD to record from the V+ hard drive onto DVD. I'll ask my Son to have a fuddle with it this week end let you know. Cheers - Dave

07-03-2008, 21:34	#4
chrisjr Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 27,916	Actually if it is connected the way I think it is then it IS an aerial cable. The V+ box has a pair of RF connectors. One takes a TV aerial in and the other is an output to your TV/DVD. The V+ box passes through the signal on the RF IN (Antenna socket) to the RF OUT (lower socket) plus a modulated signal of whatever you are watching. Similar to what old VCR machines did before SCART took over the world By default this signal is on UHF channel 52. So you need to tune the DVD recorder into that to pick it up (analogue only if your recorder also has Freeview built in). However this is probably the worst option for recording. It will be the poorest quality and only mono sound. Not anywhere near as good as SCART. If you did somehow manage to split the cable signal going into the V+ box and feed that to the DVD as well then no wonder it doesn't work I think your DVD player would have very serious trouble trying to make sense of a cable signal! So now how to connect V+, TV and DVD properly. In order of picture quality. Option 1 V+ HDMI --> TV HDMI V+ "TV" SCART --> DVD AV2 SCART DVD AV1 SCART --> TV AV1 SCART This will give you the best TV picture. It will also let you use RGB mode on the SCART to get the best picture to the DVD. If the DVD can do RGB in on the AV2 SCART of course. Then use RGB out on AV1 of the DVD to the TV. Though I think I have seen reports that V+ disables the SCART if you use HDMI (or was that Sky?). Option 2 V+ "TV" SCART --> DVD AV2 SCART DVD AV1 SCART --> TV This will allow RGB quality recording on the DVD. But it relies on the DVD being able to pass through the V+ signal to the TV when the DVD is in standby. To record with Option 1 or 2 select AV2 as the Input on the DVD Option 3 V+ "TV" SCART --> TV V+ "VCR" SCART --> DVD AV1 SCART There shouldn't be a need to connect a SCART from DVD to TV as the V+ box should pass the DVD signal on to the TV when you play a disk. One thing you may not be able to do however is use RGB quality from the V+ box to the DVD. To record with Option 3 select AV1 as the input on the DVD.

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