Thread titles says it all....AOL instant messenger on your iPhone, push e-mail using Microsoft Exchange for all your business and enterprise needs.

EA's game Spore, and other 3D games (super monkey ball using the motion sensors) are all in production.

Will this sway more people to the iPhone? Desktop grade applications in the palm of your hand.

*SDK stands for "Software Developer Kit"

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/06/l...ss-conference/

SEGA developers stated that the iPhone monkeyball game is NOT a cellphone game, but a console game. The graphics do look awesome.

[Rich2k]

Have you seen some of the hints at what WILL be in version 2.0 (free for existing iPhone users)

- Push email
- Push calendar
- Push contacts
- Global address list
- Cisco IPsec VPN
- Certificates and Identities
- WPA2 / 802.1x
- Enforced security policies
- Device configuration
- Remote wipe
- Active Sync and Microsoft Exchange support

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/03/06/...push-services/

We will finally have the iPhone as a decent competitor to the blackberry if all this works

[psionic]

Sounds very promising I would imagine the iPhone could handle games (for example) pretty well as it has a pretty fast CPU.

edit: How long I wonder before someone complains about yet another iPhone thread?

[TheSoulBrother]

bye bye Palm.

[Ricardodaforce]

Nah, I'm not going to complain. No point really is there. I'm just going to have a little chuckle to myself. Afterall, iPhone gets opened up to the developers and what you end up with is a Blackberry emulator. Hardly cutting edge.

[Dan Sette]

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Originally Posted by psionic

Sounds very promising I would imagine the iPhone could handle games (for example) pretty well as it has a pretty fast CPU.

edit: How long I wonder before someone complains about yet another iPhone thread?

OMG. Not another iPhone thread!

Not sure Activesync is a step forward.

And what will these do for me?

- Cisco IPsec VPN
- Certificates and Identities
- WPA2 / 802.1x
- Enforced security policies
- Remote wipe

[Daveoc64]

The features will also be coming to the iPod touch - but as part of a paid upgrade (and that's for the actual 2.0 version of the software).

[TheSoulBrother]

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Originally Posted by Dan Sette

OMG. Not another iPhone thread!

Not sure Activesync is a step forward.

And what will these do for me?

- Cisco IPsec VPN
- Certificates and Identities
- WPA2 / 802.1x
- Enforced security policies
- Remote wipe

Well they will let me use the iPhone for corporate email, so this is a pretty big deal for me. The certification will also let me access works wireless network with the iPhone, which is currently not possible.

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Afterall, iPhone gets opened up to the developers and what you end up with is a Blackberry emulator. Hardly cutting edge.

Actually, find me something for Blackberry comparable to Instruments/D Trace, Interface Builder, easy remote debugging, freebie access to Core Animation, multi-touch events etc. And OTA updates on a per-app basis. For a mobile SDK, this is pretty cutting edge stuff.

[Rich2k]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Sette

OMG. Not another iPhone thread!

Not sure Activesync is a step forward.

And what will these do for me?

- Cisco IPsec VPN
- Certificates and Identities
- WPA2 / 802.1x
- Enforced security policies
- Remote wipe

This isn't ALL that will be in iPhone version 2.0, this is what they are adding for enterprise users, so they can plan the rollout. The description of these is detailed on Apple's enterprise site not on their generic consumer site.

Also it isn't the SDK that's adding these features, it's Apple themselves.

It might not be cutting edge as referred to above but Windows Mobile is simply not good enough to be a Blackberry competitor, whereas the iPhone can become the next blackberry but with a hugely improved interface

[stevej26uk]

I think its good for the iphone in general and finally means its turning into more of a smartphone rather than a fashion item, but its not exactly innovative just means the iphone will be able to do what blackberrys, winmo devices and symbian have been able to do for years.

Also i suspect the apps will be charged from itunes and probably quite expensive.

and email over 2g just doesnt appeal to me, the screen is lovely and large for checking out a large pdf/powerpoint file but whats the point when you have to wait forever to retrieve it?

goo move by apple but its still a flawed product

[Sananda Maitreya]

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Originally Posted by stevej26uk

Also i suspect the apps will be charged from itunes and probably quite expensive.

there will be an app store accessed directly from the phone. price will be set by devs.

[TheSoulBrother]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej26uk

I think its good for the iphone in general and finally means its turning into more of a smartphone rather than a fashion item, but its not exactly innovative just means the iphone will be able to do what blackberrys, winmo devices and symbian have been able to do for years.

Also i suspect the apps will be charged from itunes and probably quite expensive.

and email over 2g just doesnt appeal to me, the screen is lovely and large for checking out a large pdf/powerpoint file but whats the point when you have to wait forever to retrieve it?

goo move by apple but its still a flawed product

How is it flawed?

Developers can set a price of FREE if they so wish.

For the first time, you will have a central application store for a mobile environment that can install OTA and send updates to the apps on the device in a single, self contained environment. No, Windows Mobile, Blackberry, Symbian and Palm do not offer something this good.

This is the next step from what Handango should have become.

The apps can be free - Apple stated most developers wanted a free price so they could get applications on to every iPhone.

As for not cutting edge. . . .all of it works seamlessly using the iPhones UI - which is an unparalleled mobile experience.

(to the person that wondered how it would all work - The apps were demoed including Microsoft Exchange and push e-mail and it was all instantaneous which is good news.)

[Ricardodaforce]

Before you fanboys right Blackberry off, look at this.

To quote: "RIM is working on some rather innovative multi-touch technology for a BlackBerry touchscreen. It seems that this tech is even more advanced than the one on the iPhone, because not only is it multi-touch, it's also multi-pressure. By being able to detect different levels of pressure, a series of 3D touch interfaces are possible. Press a little to zoom a little, press a lot to zoom a lot."

So whilst these iPhone developments may bring features that have been common to Blackberrys for ages, the unique UI that seems to provoke sexual pleasure amongst you may well be trumped by the boffins at Research In Motion.

It's still going to be trapped in a hideous user interface.

They can try to imitate all they want and persuade themselves that adding pressure to the screen will make it better. But it won't.

[Ricardodaforce]

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Originally Posted by aaronon

It's still going to be trapped in a hideous user interface.

They can try to imitate all they want and persuade themselves that adding pressure to the screen will make it better. But it won't.

That's a fact is it? So you have already seen RIM's Blackberry interface even though nobody else has? How come? I am impressed!

[stevej26uk]

apple still have final say over the app if they dont want it to go on the iphone it wont, admitally symbian is starting to go this way by making it hard to install unsigned apps.

The real thing that bugs me about apple is the way they keep going on and on about how innovative the iphone is when its not admitally the touch screen interface is innovative but every other part of the iphone is 1-2 years behind current mobile tech, everything th iphone can do I can do on my n95.
It's interesting how the iphone is very popular in the u.s but in europe it has been no more successful than any other device.

[TheSoulBrother]

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As for not cutting edge. . . .all of it works seamlessly using the iPhones UI - which is an unparalleled mobile experience.

And you can create the UI using Interface Builder.

Which is kinda amazing. You get all of the widgets/buttons and you basically drag and drop them

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/ipho...onesdka114.jpg
http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/ipho...onesdka119.jpg

Set your connection points and you have a working UI in no time at all..

Quote:

Cocoa Touch - Multi-touch events, Multi-touch controls, Acceleromter, View Hierarchy, Localization, Alerts, Web View, People Picker, Image Picker, Camera

Media - Core Audio, OpenAL, Audio Mixing, Audio Recording, Video Playback, JPG, PNG, TIFF, PDS Quartz, Core Animation, Embedded OpenGL

Core Services - Collections, Address Book, Networking, File access, SQLite, Core Location, Net Services Threading, Preferences, URL utilities

Core OS - OS X Kernel, BSD TCP/IP, Sockets, Power Management, Keychain, Certificates, File System, Lib System, Security, Bonjour

My emphasis added.

[Dan Sette]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricardodaforce

the unique UI that seems to provoke sexual pleasure amongst you may well be trumped by the boffins at Research In Motion.

Excellent. And at renewal time I can look more closely at both.

I do love the grey and white styling of the RIM product. And those funky organic looking lines.

[OneManTagTeam]

I just want to be able to take a pic of a drunken mate at the weekend & Bluetooth it to everyone on the Monday morning...

TheSoulBrother how impressive is that SDK.

Your screenshots show the key bits. . . .you simply drag your things onto a canvas. Really easy , and really simple.

Infact they have asked Joe Blogs to become a devloper. It's $99 to become a developer for the iPhone and you get 70% of the profit from all the sales. (if your good enough to make a good one).

[TheSoulBrother]

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Originally Posted by stevej26uk

but every other part of the iphone is 1-2 years behind current mobile tech

Flash memory?
RAM?
Processor?
OS?
Graphics?


News to me.

Here's some photo's of super-monkey-ball totally tilt controlled ;

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.en...le-sdk-134.jpg

[wicksta]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej26uk

The real thing that bugs me about apple is the way they keep going on and on about how innovative the iphone is when its not admitally the touch screen interface is innovative but every other part of the iphone is 1-2 years behind current mobile tech, everything th iphone can do I can do on my n95.

As an iPhone and N95 owner I can say you might be right, there is not much an iPhone can do that the N95 can't (except visual voicemail). However it does most things a lot better. I never use my N95 now and the only thing I miss is the camera..

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej26uk

It's interesting how the iphone is very popular in the u.s but in europe it has been no more successful than any other device.

It's O2's biggest ever selling device, so you a blatantly wrong there, in fact you couldn't be more wrong!

[stevej26uk]

you have to have a laugh at apple they release 'the most innovative phone ever 3 years ahead of current mobiles'

they listen to users complaints and think oh hang on we better add a sdk then spin it to be 'years ahead of current mobile sdk'

I guess when they eventually get round to launching a 3g iphone it will be ' 3g 3-4 years ahead of current 3g mobiles'

and just reading through the press conference users will be able to download apps over celluar network, ha ha start the download of the app at 9am and by lunch it will be downloaded