oooh, you're just too clever for me

Obviously "beer related" as Jon said but Ray's been in this state time and time again and they've had to restrain him time and time again, you only have to think back whether you ever heard Gos say anything other than "Leave it man" to realise how often this occurs. And it's been defended as "just having a craic" time and time again. And yes it's drink but no, I really don't go in pubs where people act like this.

Ray KNOWS what happens when he drinks. It's hardly the first time, is it? For him to keep doing it over and over he must actually think it comes across well and that his "fans" out here will see "aww it's only harmless flirting, he's just having a laugh with the lasses!"

OK so he's "genuine" - emotionally retarded, and out of control, but at least GENUINELY emotionally retarded and GENUINELY out of control.

Ray to Lose! I don't care who wins!

Bob

No well run pub would tolerate that behaviour anyway. Rays behaviour was inexcusable. Only Scott and Jon were looking out for Nush.. She had a bandaged foot, and PLUS there was a pin or needle somewhere on the floor (which Cameron found this morning when he trod on it). Would every one say it was such a "laff" had Nush "found" it with her back as she was hauled about? The fact that she was laughing is immaterial, we know this is her natural reaction to stress rather than humour. Ray ignored Jon and Ray remonstrating with him.. He really thinks he can do no wrong!

That's quite evident.:yawn:

I think he's sealed Scott as the winner.

Dread - quite right. Jon to win!

Bob

So what? It's okay for CaMORON to make violent threats but not Ray? CaMORON said he would like to punch Jon, shit in Jon's shower gel and piss in his shampoo or whatever. CaMORON threatened to throttle Lisa's windpipe. CaMORON last night said he wanted to suffocate Nush, and strangle her. He also said she deserves being hurt for getting so drunk and that he would not give her sympathy. Comparing the two I know who I prefer and at least I am not blinded by prejudice. Ray is the 2nd best male in the house after Jon and if Nush does not win then I hope Ray does. Funny how C4 have shown all of Ray's anger in full but NONE of CaMORON's.

PMSL!! u utter mongs!

take it you don' go down to the burton stone, bob, or the old imperial???or the clifton... corner house???

i'm joking of course, fine hostelries all

Don't forget that that Jon was way ahead of the game on this issue. Was it his last night in the house that he mentioned Ray's treatment of women?

I dont see why everyones so against ray, he hasnt been over the top at all, well compared to the other bores in the house i guess he has! but its not hard to stand out next to Scott is it!!!!!

And that's probably the problem isn't it - people will remonstrate with him when he's drunk and acting like a tit, yet that's no use because of the "red mist". But I bet no-one's sat him down when he's sober to say, "look Ray, last night you went too far". Maybe one of the HMs ought to do this - did they do this today? No.

Don't think Ray came out of tonight's show smelling of roses frankly. It's not that anybody's against having a "laff", it's the fact that when he drinks, Ray seems to lose it. He went ballistic over what was really a petty argument with Steph and it was the ferociousness of his anger that took me aback. As much as I dislike Steph, I just kept picturing her next to a furious Ray without the presence of the others and that's not a pretty picture.

This has happened far too often with Ray to be considered a one off incident and I have to say I'm not wild about the idea of someone with such anger issues walking away with seventy grand.

Scott came closest saying he was sound when sober but not when drunk.

You sound like a headmistress.

Ray deserves every penny of that 70 grand for putting up with these anally retentive false dull wannabes.

Ray to WIN!

Funny how al da ppl who typ there posts like dizz r th 1s who fink dat ray didnt o to far last nite (lightn up ppl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111), yet the people who take time over their posts are generally unhappy about Ray's behaviour. There must be a pattern here...

I assume, Herbaliser, that you don't think you've had a good night out unless you wake up in A&E dripping in your own urine, with stitches in your face, unable to remember any of it.

How nice

I assume that illiterate expression is intended to mean that you know a pub where water throwing and dragging women about the floor is standard behaviour????
Youve obviously never been in a pub at all ... Ive drunk in and worked in plenty.......

No your wrong i remember about 79% of it.
Each to their own eh? Bet you've got a lovely little cottage and a Volvo..good on yer

Sadly I will never be able to afford either. Cleaning up your piss and blood doesn't pay enough.

Don't jest, I woke up in A&E at St Helier hospital on a drip about 2 months ago and I have no recollection of what happened!!

There is a difference between being against someone and wanting them out of the house. I hate the guy, especially after the "punch her face in" and Nush incidents but that doesn't mean I want him evicted. I'm enjoying seeing him at breaking point, lets just hope he snaps at the scottish bible basher next.

Your stupidity is reinforced further.
Did i mention actually hitting women??

LOL again! at the hysterical Daily Mail readers.