Just caught the repeat.

That's the first I've seen of Ray's antics on fight night. It looked pretty bad to me. Far worse than anything Jonny did last year, like him or hate him he was never anywhere near as aggresive as that.

I don't think I've seen many people in my life that handle their drink worse than Ray. They can't be drinking that much can they? That looked like the result of a two day bender ....and that's just the drink.

Has anyone seen Ray showing any regret the morning after any of these little episodes? If it were me I couldn't show my face for a week after behaving like that.

More drink please let's see how much worse he can get.

Thing is, drinking is probably only an excuse. He thinks it lets him get away with doing the things he fantasises about doing while sober, perhaps. But drinking, except perhaps in the case of people who suffer a severe chemical imbalance, dosen't make you change personalities, it just releases inhibitions that already there.

I haven't seen him show regret, no. Self pity perhaps. He tries to make up with people because he worries about his image, I think. Then he cries, so he looks like the injured party.

But maybe that's the route his misogyny takes, women are either caregivers or victims, as far as he treats them. I think he's a revolting bully, myself.

[quote]Originally posted by JonDoe


Far worse than anything Jonny did last year, like him or hate him he was never anywhere near as aggresive as that.



I have to DISAGREE with you about Jonny - he was FAR FAR worse than Ray - i watched on live streaming last year and have interactive this year.

Honestly jonny was much worse in the way he treated kate - throwing her around outside on the grass when she was dead drunk
nearly letting her drown in the pool
oh dont get me started on him - you just cangt compare them - Ray is a gentleman compared to him -

Well can you imagine what the other BB hopefuls were like, if this is the best of the bunch? Crikey.

Ray finally lost all reason when Jon came back in. Does he actually realise yet that Jon can't win? When he does I bet he'll go all cocky and calm again.

Jon is such a pompous twit (but yes I do like him) he's like the Lord of The Manor. Don't think the others are that bothered either way - maybe Scott but who knows cos its hard to tell whether he's awake or not.

Are we near the end yet? Just another week? Thank God for that.

I watched the same streaming chrissie.

Nothing like as aggressive! Not even close. He never once spoke to anyone the way Ray does. I'm not defending Jonny, I was fairly indifferent towards him.

Forget the jumping around and your alleigance to Alex for a second, he didn't even speak like that about the men who openly hated him let alone the women. "I could smash her f***ing face in"? A gentleman? ....are you kidding me?

Again, I am not praising Jonny, I'm critising Ray.

Am I so obvious? - I did love Alex - I wish there was someone like him in there this year - but that isnt why i hated jonny so much - he was obnoxious as far as i'm concerned.
I dont support Ray to win - or Scott for that matter - no depth -
and i have to agree that when Ray has had a drink he does NOT behave like a gentleman - but he does have some redeeming features [dont ask me what they are - I cant be bothered .
Being a woman I just prefer him to Jonny.

I do love BB this year but I wish I had the same strength of feeling for the HMs that I had last year.

At this stage I dont really care who wins - I would prefer Steph and I have to say that Cameron has amused me and stirred me to love him one minute and hate him the next - whereas the others havent moved me at all.

So for what its worth - cant be bothered to argue about Ray
Scott leaves me cold
Cameron at least moves me
Steph to Win [but not very likely]