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Nush said she was shocked that someone (Ray) she really liked voted against her...
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gazza71
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by carrolls
They were better friends then than they are now you dufus. ”

No, they weren't... When it came to the weekend before nominations, they were very much better friends than they were weeks ago... Of course they were. Or at least Nush felt they were... hence her nominating Cameron (who she got on with better weeks ago), and not Ray.

If they're no longer good friends now it's because Ray proved himself to be so easily swayed by so little - you would question your friendship with him after that.

Nush will go tonight, as Plant said... Because of people not being able to see past a bloody giggle.

And yes Steph was let off easily... Just like she always is. But then it's hard to appreciate just how big a moron this woman is if you don't sit there in utter disbelief for an hour as she spouts some of the most ignorant moronic nonsense you'll ever hear.
Tourmeline
18-07-2003
But Ray thought Steph had voted for him and she didn't. That was wrong of him - it was Scott as usual she voted for.
Relugus
18-07-2003
Nush spoke to the Diary Room on that night, didn't she?

She said to Scott about herself being a mess, and that she gave silly reasons for her earlier nominations, etc.

Her Diary Room stint was not shown; instead we had Cameron saying about how people shouldn't drink so much, thus making Cameron look like the voice of reason.

Funny thing...Steph was buddying up to Nush UNTIL the press cutting and the "announcement" about Nush's boyfriend...then, Steph starts to complain about Nush far more than ever before.

When Scott chooses Nush for the Reward Room (Scott would have been dishonest not to have done so), Steph saw the perfect opportunity to manipulate.
Jon has said he fancies Nush, so he's saying he would choose Nush was honest.

Thus her big moan to Ray about how hard done by she is (Steph uses her "mother" role to control the men), playing the "I'm a victim!" card.

Here's hoping Steph surpasses Elizabeth's record in the final votes.
da33431
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by thms
my 2 year old neice could have worked out ray voted for nush


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Sorry, off topic but my niece is also nearly 2 years old, bless!
solare
18-07-2003
What she's actually upset about is that someone who was part of her little "pact" group decided to nominate her.
It was devious and against BB rules for them to make a pact not to vote for each other.
Ray ultimately had the guts to do something different.
She deserves to go tonight.
gazza71
18-07-2003
Oh jeez... A pact between 3 people who were friends... I think what Nush is upset about is the fact that one little cry from another person who has clearly had it in for her for a while now, was able to change someones opinion so easily. I'd question my friendship with someone like that.
Plant
18-07-2003
I think Ray voted for Nush because he voted for Steph last week and he was trying to be fair. He gets on with both of them.

Sometimes the truth is a bit more simple and people are less devious than you think.
Emzi
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Glenghis
Oh, FFS. Put yourself in Nush's position. You are trying to calm a dear friend.. ”

For 'dear friend', please read 'rival contestant for £70,000'.
gazza71
18-07-2003
Plant... Ray has said this week a number of times he was going to vote for Steph but changed because of her "Everybody picks Nush over me" speech. Now, she had been crying over Nush for hours upon hours since the moment Lisa left, and then when nominations were announced, was as happy as could be, but still managed to attack Nush for getting more attention than her or Cameron.

Again... It amazes me how people can be so cynical about Nush, yet give this moronic woman so much time.
En Ami
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Plant
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Sometimes the truth is a bit more simple and people are less devious than you think.
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Except for some people, not where Nush is concerned of course. Then it's all 'false smiles', 'deliberate flirting' and 'cunning manipulations'.
Stephanos
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by solare
What she's actually upset about is that someone who was part of her little "pact" group decided to nominate her.
It was devious and against BB rules for them to make a pact not to vote for each other.
Ray ultimately had the guts to do something different.
She deserves to go tonight.
”

Here here. This woman will stop at nothing to be the centre of attention. Jeez. Now she's been sucking up to Jon again and he's fallen for it. How easily she can wrap the boys around her little finger. Get the vixen out. I can't bear to see any more of this fake flirting and acting up to the cameras.
gazza71
18-07-2003
Sucking up to Jon? He went in there to make friends with her... He's been nice to her, and made an effort and she's done the same with him. We all know how much Jon actually likes her.
Stephanos
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by gazza71
Sucking up to Jon? He went in there to make friends with her... He's been nice to her, and made an effort and she's done the same with him. We all know how much Jon actually likes her. ”

I agree - but think she's using this to her advantage in a vain attempt to make herself appear popular and get the boys thinking how much they would miss all the attention she gives them. I'm not saying she's a bad person but think she's clearly using her flirtatious behaviour as a tactic to keep herself as the centre of attention.
pony
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Emzi
For 'dear friend', please read 'rival contestant for £70,000'.
”

gazza71
18-07-2003
Or maybe she's just tactile... It is possible for women to be that yer know.
Georgiecats
18-07-2003
Jeez it's so confusing.

Is Steph in a clique with Cam and Nush, or is it Scott, Nush and Ray? Jon and Ray? Jon and Scott? Dot and Jim? Barry and Janine - urgh how ugly is that?

Oops I've strayed into even worse territory. Martin and Katy.

I feel sick.
Shelley
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by Georgiecats
Jeez it's so confusing.

Is Steph in a clique with Cam and Nush, or is it Scott, Nush and Ray? Jon and Ray? Jon and Scott? Dot and Jim? Barry and Janine - urgh how ugly is that?

Oops I've strayed into even worse territory. Martin and Katy.

I feel sick.
”

LOL. Your post reminds of that opening sequence each week in that comedy "Soap". Do you remember it?
Georgiecats
18-07-2003
Nope I don't remember Sope.

I just flaming watch too many of them. And BB seems to have turned into one.

And we're the flaming idiots cos we're still watching as Billy Connolly says "sitting in a house watching people sitting in a house."

And will we do it again next year. Course we will.
lizolinni
18-07-2003
I remember "Soap" used to watch it every week - fabulous!!!! I think we are showing our age though
Tourmeline
18-07-2003
Unlike Nush the Sluch who was showing her pants! "Ooh, mmmmm, *puts finger to mouth a la Graham Norton* how shall I sit in this skirt?"
Vicky0uk
18-07-2003
I don't think that Nush is as cunning as people make out. I don't think she does this flirting thing as a conscious ploy. She just does it.

I had a friend. A little like Nush. Every man she met seemed to fancy her. She didn't know why. I didn't know why. Then one day she met my parents. Afterwards my mother remarked how she had immediately homed in and gone into flirt mode with my plump, somewhat socially inarticulare, 50 something step-father. My friend had'nt even realised she was doing it. She has now 'worked' on it because it was causing her serious problems with undesired men and with other women who hated her.

Interestingly, she had had a difficult and insecure childhood with a very neglectful father. It reckoned that her unconscious urge to attract and be noticed by men was linked to this. Didn't Nush have some problems concerning her father?
Plant
18-07-2003
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“Originally posted by gazza71
Plant... Ray has said this week a number of times he was going to vote for Steph but changed because of her "Everybody picks Nush over me" speech. Now, she had been crying over Nush for hours upon hours since the moment Lisa left, and then when nominations were announced, was as happy as could be, but still managed to attack Nush for getting more attention than her or Cameron.

Again... It amazes me how people can be so cynical about Nush, yet give this moronic woman so much time.
”

You don't think he could possibly be retrospectively justifying himself? He didn't come out with that until he had the row with Steph, before that he said he stood by his decision.

And Steph attacked Nush for getting more attention than Cameron, not herself.

You really are totally blinkered when it comes to Nush and Steph. They've both got good and bad points. Steph's worst is that she is very very stubborn, Nush worst is that she's acting the whole time. Neither of them are morons.
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